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Karl Rove Accuses Obama of Deliberately Destabilizing Afghanistan
Monday, October 19, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/19/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: Willie Green

Harriet Miers: the Holly Hobby doll that came to life.


101 posted on 10/19/2009 6:27:22 PM PDT by bigoil
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To: EternalVigilance
I paid very close attention to your first post here, EV.

You made your priorities very clear.

102 posted on 10/19/2009 6:37:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

No, you didn’t. If you had, you would have paid attention to the only point that mattered to those trying to understand what’s going on politically, which you obviously missed because of your enduring and abiding love of all things Bush and/or Republican.


103 posted on 10/19/2009 7:19:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If they won't "secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity," they won't secure yours either.)
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To: bustinchops

Gee, no wonder they call you bustinchops.
I am duly humbled, chastened, humiliated, etc. etc.
NOT!
I throw nobody under the bus. Couldn’t care less what any of them have to say, don’t pin any of my hopes on them, and don’t think it’s wise to emotionally invest in ANYONE
in the political realm as it exists, refuse to get tied up in knots over whether Romney is better than Giuliani is better than Lindsey Graham or John McCain, in this way or that way, or any way, or who would make a better running mate for who. And so on, ad infinitum. I will not participate in this tabloid-level spectator sport that politics has become/ I think WE have to stand on our own two feet, and find our OWN way, and start taking action, as we begin to identify what is actually in OUR own interest, and not some politician’s idea of our own interest. The events of the past year should have woken lots of people up, but they apparently haven’t, since everyone is still thinking in terms of the structures of Establishment politics. And for you to even provisionally identify me as a “Pub”, shows me you didn’t get what I was saying at all. Bye now.


104 posted on 10/19/2009 7:54:14 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (The being who sleeps alone, is rocked by all the beings he loves, has loved, and shall love.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Nice evasion of your own responsibility by shifting the focus to me in a derisive manner.

You made your priorities clear in your first post. It was not to condemn Obama for putting us, and more importantly our troops at risk. It was to say dirty things about Karl Rove.

I don't need to argue this point any further. You said what you said. Sorry for seeing what was there and not pretending you didn't say what you did indeed say.

I'm an honest person, EV. If that offends you, too bad.

105 posted on 10/19/2009 8:32:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Williams
They hate Karzai simply because he works with us. if they get an enemy government that demands our withdrawal, that will be treated with the greatest respect.

Actually, this may be their way out of Afghanistan. Put in a "duly elected president in a free and fair election" who says USA go home. Then what do you do, you go home.

106 posted on 10/19/2009 8:46:11 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: kristinn

Thank you kristinn for this report.


107 posted on 10/19/2009 11:24:52 PM PDT by Katarina (Thank God for Conservative talk radio.)
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To: HelloooClareece

I prefer to hear the truth too. We conservatives are not the ones who need to be won over at the voting booth. It’s the other folks out there.

And no getting around it...Karl Rove is not the best choice for TV interviews now.


108 posted on 10/19/2009 11:26:05 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Zeddicus
I hope our military people remember they serve our Constitution, not any particular politician.

Of course, it just takes a treaty to overrule that minor detail.

109 posted on 10/20/2009 1:43:21 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Willie Green; EternalVigilance
Sounds like Karl's laying groundwork to challenge him in '12 with Harriet Miers as his running mate.

Could be worse, I suppose...with no need to show a birth certificate, he could choose one of his Mexican buddies.

110 posted on 10/20/2009 1:49:43 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Is this an actual ROE? What is its provenence?

DG


111 posted on 10/20/2009 2:31:46 AM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Niuhuru
I agree. According to Obama’s academic credentials he received a good education but his grasp of history, law, sociology and economics comes from reading leftist political tracts. In press conferences and townhall events his incomplete—or simply wrong—knowledge of everything makes me think his window on the world is the TODAY show. He's definitely a one-trick pony who somehow wandered into a three-ring circus.
112 posted on 10/20/2009 2:39:46 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: DoorGunner

New York Post

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_rules_murdering_our_troops_u935ECKNWXpLK8C5D96pdN

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOlcuCBE2_A&feature=player_embedded

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/60minutes/main5335445.shtml

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/obamas-roe-rules-of-engagement-are-killing-our-troops/

Type the words Obama ROE in a search engine


113 posted on 10/20/2009 6:36:49 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

These “Rules of engagement” are on only one of your sources, the Wordpress blog, and even there these “rules” are not sourced, or even explicitly claimed to be “official.”

If these actually ARE the official ROE for all troops, they are an abomination. If I am going to get upset about ROEs, It must be about what the real, official, ROE; not something dreamed up by some blogger. It would have been better for you to have published nothing, than to publish something spurious.

Does anybody have a fully sourced, official set of the ROE?

DG


114 posted on 10/20/2009 8:35:53 AM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: DoorGunner

I posted two news articles. The image of ROE’s is saying what the news has reported.


115 posted on 10/20/2009 11:09:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: DoorGunner

yes this is a blog

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/09/28/its-a-cold-truth-war-means-putting-our-troops-lives-at-risk/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog

But what you missed was the blogs/NYPost et al are posting off of the 60 minutes interview.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/60minutes/main5335445.shtml?tag=cbsnewsLeadStoriesAreaMain;cbsnewsLeadStoriesHeadlines

I don’t think this is being made up but you are wishful thinking if you think will see this on CNN et al.


116 posted on 10/20/2009 11:15:11 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: mojitojoe

Interesting expression on his face. He’s playing with the big dogs now.


117 posted on 10/20/2009 11:18:30 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: DoorGunner

It is like anything else re: Obama. If it is critical of him the MSM won’t report it.

http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/2009/10/are-afghanistan-war-casualties-mounting.html

I spoke directly with someone within the military, the ROE’s are real but just like booter stress cards they are being ignored. Now if they would send the troops funding instead of worrying about blubber Teddy getting a building with his name on it. Or even a seasoned CIC would be nice.


118 posted on 10/20/2009 11:22:22 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: DoorGunner

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htwin/articles/20090928.aspx


119 posted on 10/20/2009 11:25:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The issue is this: until we have an official document, spelling out the actual, real ROE, we are forced to make judgments based on articles and blogs. MSM reports probably will never produce such a document and they usually lack any military experience, and bloggers (for all we know) are giving their own assessment, not of the actual ROE, but w what somebody told them.

I have no doubt that the current ROE are faulty, but the only way to make any such judgment is to see the actual, official, printed ROE.

DG


120 posted on 10/20/2009 4:29:32 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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