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“The biggest bunch of crybabies” vs. FOX News
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-20-09 | Wordsmith

Posted on 10/20/2009 7:01:39 AM PDT by Starman417

If FOX News had aired a White House infomercial on healthcare, would the White House have declared war on FOX News?

If Chris Wallace had decided FOX too would run a factcheck on a comedy skit, would FOX be in the White House cross-hairs?

If FOX had joined the rest of the MSM club in ignoring the Van Jones story and not aired the undercover videos of ACORN,

Perhaps if Sean Hannity got a thrill up his leg over Obamamania, then The One would not have snubbed FOX from inclusion in his 5 interview-weekend blitzkrieg.

But no...instead, FOX does a good deal of what the other star-struck networks have failed to do: Provide a critical look at the Obama Presidency and act in the role of a watchdog press.

62% say that criticism of political leaders is worthwhile because it keeps those leaders from doing things that should not be done, while 22% say such criticism keeps leaders from doing their jobs.

What if the MSM gave proper coverage vetting of candidate Obama in '08?

Posts to reflect upon:

UPDATED! The Ties That Bind…The NYT’s Kills Story To Protect Obama Before Election

VDH: MSM Unprofessional Lobbying For Obama Will, In A Decade Or Two, Become Case Study In Graduate Classes On Journalistic Ethics

Mark Halperin: MSM Bias For Obama Worst In Recent History

The WaPo Tries To Buy Back Some Of It’s Credibility

The Suppression Of Bad Obama News By Our MSM

Where Did the Public Get the Idea that McCain is Running A Negative Campaign?

Excellent commentary by Jim Pinkerton:



what is so striking to me about this is the number of liberal journalists or liberal observers who have said the white house is making a huge mistakes not just on the politics of it, but the first amendment issues.

John nichols at the nation magazine and camille polly at salon and megan garner columbia review, on and on and on saying to the white house this is a bad thing to do just on the constitutional principle of it let alone the politics.


I think what you just heard from jim is more typical people say, thinking back to president nixon and his attitude towards the new york times and "the washington post," that no matter which side of the political aisle you're on, to see people in power acting in this way really invites corruption, corruption of a kind that would, you know, impede our democratic principle, our democratic values.

Former Clinton aide David Gergen:

"It's a very risky strategy and not one that I would advocate. If you're going to get very personal with the media, you're going to find that the animosities are just going to deepen. And you're going to find that you sort of almost draw viewers and readers to the people you are attacking. You build them up in some ways. You give the stature. The press always has the last barrel of ink."

Curt linked yesterday to The Nation. Even those diversity of free speech-lovers from the left are floored by the White House strategy to go after a media outlet (perhaps taking notes from Hugo Chavez who muses Obama may end up further to the left than himself?).

An administration that won the White House with an almost always on-message campaign and generally friendly coverage from old and new media is now frustrated by its inability to control the debate and get the coverage it wants.

President Bush was supposedly the one accused of stifling dissent and free speech. But here, we have a thin-skinned, intolerant White House that has declared open war against a major news outlet. They may have found their sacrificial lamb in the form of Anita Dunn:

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dunn; fox; hannahgiles; obama

1 posted on 10/20/2009 7:01:40 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
This is a test of the orwellian powerplay.

If the state media controls the message for a large enough portion of the population, then it can effectively win a civil war over the control of the propaganda of the people by vilifying the only alternative sources of information out there.

Why would they make their move now?

Alternative media is growing, and if it continues to grow, the state propaganda machine will lose critical mass in influence and not be able to stop the revolution.
2 posted on 10/20/2009 7:18:54 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Starman417

FOX should turn the tables on the WH. Start, and don’t stop, asking why the WH is so comfortable with ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.. Is it because they are nothing more than willing dupes.

3 posted on 10/20/2009 7:29:26 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason
FOX should turn the tables on the WH.

I disagree.

FOX should keep doing what they are doing. Reporting the news in a semi-unbiased way.

They should just let Obama et al keep shooting themselves in the foot and not whine about the fact they aren't the President's favorite news network.

4 posted on 10/20/2009 7:37:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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yep. When your opponent is playing to lose, let him lose.

5 posted on 10/20/2009 7:42:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Starman417
A good video here, watch this:

Tucker Carlson Says "Can You Imagine David Axelrod Lecturing Us (Fox News) on Honesty?" - Video

6 posted on 10/20/2009 7:45:56 AM PDT by blam
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To: z3n
In the words of Justice Holmes,

"...when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas - that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out."

It's been said that one never truly appreciates something until they have lost it. For the majority of Americans it is difficult to imagine what the loss of freedom and liberty is like. Many can't imagine living in a country where you can be arrested for you say or write. Like many of you, growing up in America I had always taken my liberty and freedom for granted. That all changed when I moved overseas and discovered firsthand that it is our love of freedom and liberty that has made our country an exceptional nation, it is today what we fight for.

Our forefathers before and our brave soldiers today are fighting and sacrificing their lives for freedom and liberty, not for diversity, respect, tolerance, "politcal correctness" or for that matter "Hope" and "Change".

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

7 posted on 10/20/2009 7:50:02 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Starman417

I prefer “The biggest bunch of left-wing crooks vs. Fox News”.

8 posted on 10/20/2009 7:57:13 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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