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Everything You Know About Natural Selection Is Wrong
CEH ^ | October 16, 2009

Posted on 10/20/2009 8:22:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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1 posted on 10/20/2009 8:22:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Everything GGG Knows (and posts) About The Natural World Is Wrong.

There, fixed it.

2 posted on 10/20/2009 8:24:27 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Ahh... Evolution: The endlessly flexible theory.


3 posted on 10/20/2009 8:26:00 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...
Of course, the evos are going to complain that this guy is from the philosophy department. I wonder how long it will take them to realize that this was published in Science! Ping!!!
4 posted on 10/20/2009 8:26:14 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Everything You Know About Natural Selection Is Wrong

Considering this article's target audience is Creationist, it's probably the most truthful title you ever posted

5 posted on 10/20/2009 8:26:32 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: xcamel

Much better!


6 posted on 10/20/2009 8:26:37 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well if they didnt come up with different theories from time to time it would be dogma. Somehow I suspect you dont like this any better than Darwin’s 1800s ideas(which were brilliant at the time) . It’s the throwing out and coming up with new that makes it ‘science’, or to be more careful ‘historic science’ because it cant be proved.


7 posted on 10/20/2009 8:28:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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What we know about Gravity changes often as well. As we study and learn more, our views and understanding changes. We’ve come a long way since Newton. That doesn’t mean gravity doesn’t exist.


8 posted on 10/20/2009 8:31:10 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: TChris

Indeed, it is so flexible that it has managed to tie itself into knots :o)


9 posted on 10/20/2009 8:31:32 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: xcamel

Well, then, you must really be sober, xcamel.


10 posted on 10/20/2009 8:33:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Do not scorn the sunken ship but instead celebrate the date palm’s sustaining succor...


11 posted on 10/20/2009 8:34:13 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: qam1

The idea of dividing the world into evos and creatos is just a waste of time, internet bandwidth and perfectly good pixels. And yet... some people do it.


12 posted on 10/20/2009 8:34:13 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

bookmark


13 posted on 10/20/2009 8:40:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“”Dawkins is a prominent critic of religion, creationism and a wide variety of pseudoscience. In his 1986 book The Blind Watchmaker, he argued against the watchmaker analogy, an argument for the existence of a supernatural creator based upon the complexity of living organisms. Instead, he described evolutionary processes as analogous to a blind watchmaker.

In his 2006 book The God Delusion, Dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist, writing that such beliefs, based on faith rather than on evidence, qualify as a delusion. He was a co-founder of the Out Campaign, as a means of advancing atheism and freethought.””

So apparently all these various flat earth threads are a disguised argument for atheism. And the general dishonest tenor of the arguments over time then begins to make sense. Hail Satan, or Santa. Whatever.

ps : Dawkins coined the word MEME (the cultural equivalent of a gene) to describe how Darwinian principles might be extended to explain the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena.


14 posted on 10/20/2009 8:42:15 AM PDT by tlb
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To: GodGunsGuts

bookmark


15 posted on 10/20/2009 8:47:17 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: tlb

Funny, I haven’t seen any flat earth threads posted by Creation/ID folks. You must have us confused with the anti-science evos on FR.


16 posted on 10/20/2009 8:48:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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RE :”That doesn’t mean gravity doesn’t exist.

But you still cant prove what gravity did in the past either. You can compile evidence based on the current state of matter. Maybe the evidence seems overwhelming, especially to those that come up with the theories. The theories become paradigms. But they still are theories.

This evolution is ‘fact’ stuff is promoted by atheists to show “God doesn't exist” and is used by creationists to rally the base(creationist) to sneak the Bible into science class using the hokey ID non-sense. It's the creationists vs the atheists and the rest of us are in the crossfire, to be shot by either side if caught.

17 posted on 10/20/2009 8:50:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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This guy doesn't know what he's talking about:

...specifically, when there is variation with respect to a trait, those variants differ in the numbers of offspring produced, and this variation is heritable to some degree...

No no no Mr. PHILOSOPHY.....it's "specifically" when those variants differ in the numbers of offspring produced THAT REACH REPRODUCTIVE AGE AND PASS THE VARIANT OFF TO THEIR OFFSPRING.

Simply varying the numbers of offspring produced means NOTHING concerning "selection." Simply having offspring inherit a trait means NOTHING concerning "selection".....you must pass the trait off to offspring WHO PASS IT OFF TO OFFSPRING.

...but I bet they didn't tell you that in phylosophy classes.

Oooooo.....it was published in Science......that must mean it's a piece of peer-reviewed research, right? It's not just a book review, publishied without peer review....of a philosopher's book, reviewed by another philosopher?

18 posted on 10/20/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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This isn’t an article about a book, it’s an article about a REVIEW of a book!

Creationists seem to be the best liars.

The theory of evolution is still the best model folks, relax.


19 posted on 10/20/2009 8:56:41 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: GodGunsGuts
Of course, the evos are going to complain that this guy is from the philosophy department. I wonder how long it will take them to realize that this was published in Science! Ping!!!

Your excerpt says it was reviewed in Science, not published as an article.

20 posted on 10/20/2009 8:58:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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