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Ending death penalty could save US millions: study
AFP / Yahoo News ^ | Oct 20, 2009 | by Lucile Malandain

Posted on 10/20/2009 2:32:26 PM PDT by backtothestreets

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Even when executions are not carried out, the death penalty costs US states hundreds of millions of dollars a year, depleting budgets in the midst of economic crisis, a study released Tuesday found.

"It is doubtful in today's economic climate that any legislature would introduce the death penalty if faced with the reality that each execution would cost taxpayers 25 million dollars, or that the state might spend more than 100 million dollars over several years and produce few or no executions," argued Richard Dieter, director of the Death Penalty Information Center and the report's author.

"Surely there are more pressing needs deserving funding," he wrote, noting that execution was rated among the least effective crime deterrents.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; deathpenalty; deterrent; obama
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To: backtothestreets

Ron White on the death penalty

http://comedians.comedycentral.com/ron-white/videos/ron-white-—death-penalty


21 posted on 10/20/2009 2:41:54 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The greatest cost? Us in California that virtually never implements the penalty.


22 posted on 10/20/2009 2:42:03 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: backtothestreets
"Texas has the death penalty and we use it! Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's putting in an express lane."


23 posted on 10/20/2009 2:42:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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To: backtothestreets

Anybody convicted of murder should be given only one appeal
then given a lie detector test along with truth serum.
If they fail either test, increase the amount of truth serum
until they are dead.
This might clear the very few people wrongly convicted and
might clear up some old murders and felonies.

Lawyers (Liars) will hate this idea because they couldn’t
make as much money off the tax payers.


24 posted on 10/20/2009 2:42:08 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: rintense
Save criminals but kill grandma on Ocare. Charming.

It won't take the Death Panels long to figure out one bullet to the brain will be the cheapest way to kill grandma.

Oh wait,,, perhaps gas chambers are cheaper!

25 posted on 10/20/2009 2:45:42 PM PDT by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: backtothestreets

I have a better idea. Let’s outsource our death penalty to China. We try them, we sentence them, we ship’em to China and they execute them. Win, win, win......


26 posted on 10/20/2009 2:47:06 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: backtothestreets

it would also save money if we convict them, give them one appeal, and if they lose that ONE appeal, execute them within 60 days. always allow dna evidence and a top notch attorney that way no one can say they got the shaft. this nonsense of keeping murderers alive on death row for years and years is stupid.


27 posted on 10/20/2009 3:01:52 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: backtothestreets
If the death penalty is eliminated the ACLU and gang will just fight the next battle: life sentences without parole are cruel and unusual. Every time one is given they will send dozens of lawyers into court filing appeal after appeal, and then filing more appeals because the first appeals were incompentently handled. After than they will write articles stating that every life sentence without parole costs the state tens of millions of dollars fighting the appeals.
28 posted on 10/20/2009 3:06:16 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: madamemayhem
I've heard one suggestion is that in every death penalty case have the appeals judge sit and observe the trial so he knows what actually happened rather than what some shyster lawyer claims happened in the court room five years after the fact.
29 posted on 10/20/2009 3:07:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: backtothestreets

Michigan abolished the death penalty in 1846.

Must be why they are in such outstanding fiscal shape, eh?


30 posted on 10/20/2009 3:14:15 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

2 appeals or 3 years, whichever comes 1st. then you die- simple.

I figure if DNA proof is good enough to free someone on “death row” in a month or less (like they have on the “Innocence Project”), it should likewise be good enough to execute someone in a month.


31 posted on 10/20/2009 3:15:50 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: backtothestreets

If we cut back on all the useless appeals and lawsuits and fired half the judges, we’d save a bundle.


32 posted on 10/20/2009 3:16:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I figure if DNA proof is good enough to free someone on “death row” in a month or less (like they have on the “Innocence Project”), it should likewise be good enough to execute someone in a month.

I'm not as comfortable with that approach as I once was.

Having dealt with overzealous or outright corrupt LEOs and prosecutors, and given the number of cases where they have flat out targeted the wrong guy and forced the evidence to fit their theories... I'm not quite so gung-ho about it.

Oh, and planting DNA evidence isn't very hard either, if someone was inclined to do such a thing.

Determining guilt remains a mostly difficult and error-prone task.

33 posted on 10/20/2009 3:22:37 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: backtothestreets

I guess I misread the headline.

I thought they were talking about abortion.


34 posted on 10/20/2009 3:23:11 PM PDT by zipper
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To: Uncle Hal

When was the last execution? Tookie Williams,right?

Speaking from personal experience on dealing with the death penalty. I know what goes on and all of the delays. What was unreal were all the protesters at the execution I witnessed. I wanted to turn the prison fire hose on those b*stards. They have no idea what my family went through at the hands of that miserable piece of sh*t. Eventually good ol’ Texas justice came through and he paid for what he did.

These slap d*cks have never experienced what I went through. Go through it and then let’s have a conversation.


35 posted on 10/20/2009 3:23:36 PM PDT by cups
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To: backtothestreets
argued Richard Dieter, director of the Death Penalty Information Center and the report's author.

The DPIC is an anti-death penalty site. It habitually cherry picks and cooks data to support its goal of mercy for the most obscene evildoers in society.

36 posted on 10/20/2009 3:23:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: backtothestreets
Yes, we need to get rid of the death penalty because that worked out so well. /s

Richard Speck, the murderer of many pretty nursing students, managed to enjoy his cocaine in prison because the barbaric death penalty was revoked. As Richard Speck said in a film that came out after his fatal heart attack, if they [the authorities] knew how much fun I'm having in here they'd let me out.

Also, there's Charles Manson whose life was saved by the elimination of the death penalty. With no death penalty, this seasoned con adapts well to the only place he claims gives him security and he can call home. And let's not forget his soldier, the late Susan Atkins, the person who physically murdered of Sharon Tate. Susan managed to marry twice and get a degree. All of this because the barbaric death penalty was nullified by the Supreme Court back in 1972. /s

37 posted on 10/20/2009 3:26:16 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: backtothestreets

Okay, I’ll go for no death penalty if we can get some vigilantes to hang them before the trial.


38 posted on 10/20/2009 3:30:10 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I'm all for Texas Justice, but I think as a practical and realistic matter, whenever the death penalty is imposed, ALL evidence should immediately be impounded and a federal panel of special investigators review it thoroughly. Too many Nifongs in the prosecutorial weeds to trust some sadsack's life to the likes of them.

A DNA test should ALWAYS be performed in capital cases, whenever at all possible, since it is far more conclusive than any other currently recognized class of evidence. This would cost a few thousands instead of millions and achieve the putative end of justice being done.

If a prosecutor, cop, technician, forensic "expert," or any other actor is found to have suppressed exculpatory evidence, as with the Nifong scumbag, severe imprisonment should be imposed on the perp. This reform would have a salutary effect not only on the individaul case but on the system at large.

It will never happen.

39 posted on 10/20/2009 3:35:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: Yo-Yo
"Texas has the death penalty and we use it! Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's putting in an express lane."

"If you come to Texas and kill somebody,we will kill you back! That's our policy"

40 posted on 10/20/2009 3:38:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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