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NY-23 2009: Democrats Fan The Flames Of Scozzafava's Tax Troubles [she explored becoming a Rat]
The New York Daily News ^ | 2009-10-20 | Elizabeth Benjamin

Posted on 10/20/2009 3:59:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Democrats once flirted with running Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava for the seat Rep. John McHugh will soon vacate in NY-23, but now that she's a leading contender for the GOP nod, they are rushing to bolster conservative concerns about her alleged tax troubles.

Soon-to-be-former state Democratic Chairwoman June O'Neill today confirmed reports that Scozzafava's husband, an upstate labor leader, talked with key local Democrats and union heads about the possibility of his wife running on Row A if the party's presumed first choice, state Sen. Darrel Aubertine, takes a pass.

"Her husband spoke with several Democratic officials and, you know, people who are aligned with the Democratic Party," O'Neill said. "There was some discussion about whether or not Dede might switch parties, but the whole tax thing is problematic on a number of levels. We didn't want to start out with any problems."

According to O'Neill, this isn't the first time the Democrats have spoken to Scozzafava about switching sides.

The talks started after the GOP passed Scozzafava over in favor of her Assembly colleague, Will Barclay, to run against Aubertine in the 48th SD special election back in February 2008.

The Republicans worried Scozzafava would be seen as too liberal - particularly since she had voted "yes" on gay marriage, while Aubertine, a conservative Democrat, voted "no". Aubertine easily defeated Barclay in that election, and a number of GOP operatives privately conceded after the fact that Scozzafava would have been a better candidate.

I asked O'Neill why Democrats are suddenly willing to speak publicly about the tax issue - more than $192,000 in unpaid state and federal taxes owed by Scozzafava's brother's business, to which the assemblywoman says she now has only the most tenuous of connections.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: corruptdems; corruptrinos; democrats; gingrich4obama; gingrichisarino; gopfailure; gopimplosion; hoffman; nrcc4obama; ny23; rino; rinos4obama; rnc4obama; scozzafava; scozzafavaisarino
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Hey Scozzabama, get out and go join Arlen Specter!
1 posted on 10/20/2009 3:59:11 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385; cc2k

bump


2 posted on 10/20/2009 4:01:16 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: cc2k; cripplecreek; AuntB; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; bamahead

Running a Democrat as a Republican, against an actual conservative with electoral traction.

Wtf.

Now I know why the GOP is called the Stupid Party.

Wait, I already knew that last November...


3 posted on 10/20/2009 4:01:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

But...but..(El Rushbo’s mocking voice here) “She’s a moderate! An enlightened, spiritual, centrist who’ll can reach out to those confused voters in need. Why are the Dems attacking her?” < /S >


4 posted on 10/20/2009 4:04:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: rabscuttle385

I hope the conservatives of NY-23 don’t fall for the R at all costs ploy. They need to line up behind Hoffman.


5 posted on 10/20/2009 4:05:03 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: rabscuttle385

The parts are interchangeable since they all belong to one big socialist Republicrat party.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 4:09:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

That crap goes on in Utah too. Usually it is by a Dem turning Rep (in name only) in order to win the election and push their liberal agenda. A complacent (lazy) electorate is to blame, however.


7 posted on 10/20/2009 4:09:56 PM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: rabscuttle385

So Hoffman has to beat TWO DemocRats next month.


8 posted on 10/20/2009 4:14:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Wow, what a shock, rabscattle385 and his friends attacking Repubs. Do you see see a RINO around every corner? By the way, Bob McDonnell, Bill Bolling and Ken Cucinelli are all three going to win landslide elections, and Chris Christie will win a close one.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 4:22:39 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: rabscuttle385

another rat running in the GOP.

The GOP needs to stop this crap once and for all.

since when did the GOP have a platform of
homo marriage
abortion
more Govt
raise taxes
card check
etc
etc

answer they never have and NOR SHOULD THEY


10 posted on 10/20/2009 4:25:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: moose2004
Do you see see a RINO around every corner?

Um buddy, Dede is a flaming Marxist. She's more liberal than the Democrat.

11 posted on 10/20/2009 4:28:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: rabscuttle385

Are you a member of the Republican party?


12 posted on 10/20/2009 4:31:25 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS.


13 posted on 10/20/2009 4:31:37 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Wow, what a shock, rabscattle385 and his friends attacking Repubs.

Hello? I'm attacking a über-leftist Republican who is so far left that she makes the Democrat look conservative. Hell, she has the endorsement of the folks at Daily Kos.

Open your eyes, man. I attack liberals, including those that inhabit and run large sections of the Republican Party.

By the way, Bob McDonnell, Bill Bolling and Ken Cucinelli are all three going to win landslide elections

Hey, I am not going to just dumbly nod my head in approval of any Republican; if any of them--even the conservative ones--start partying with liberals (like McCain) then I am going to make noise...and lots of it.

14 posted on 10/20/2009 4:33:36 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Cedric
Are you a member of the Republican party?

At one time, yes.

Today, I am a member of no party.

15 posted on 10/20/2009 4:34:34 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

HOPEFULLY, the National GOP will use this revelation as an excuse to drop their support of her.


16 posted on 10/20/2009 4:36:00 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: moose2004
I particularly enjoyed watching my fellow FReepers demand the resignation of Connie Mack BECAUSE HE'S MARRIED TO MARY BONO!

How very totalitarian.

17 posted on 10/20/2009 4:36:46 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385
Then why the hell are you telling a candidate to get out of a party you don't belong to?

Hey Scozzabama, get out and go join Arlen Specter!

18 posted on 10/20/2009 4:38:43 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385
I am going to make noise...

That's all you do.

19 posted on 10/20/2009 4:40:56 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385

Didn’t you attack McDonnell the other day calling him a “RINO?” I think you did. Bob is an awesome conservative, you can’t get any better then him, and I will proudly defend him all day long from your noise.


20 posted on 10/20/2009 4:41:12 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004
Wow, what a shock, rabscattle385 and his friends attacking Repubs. Do you see see a RINO around every corner?

Look, that's bulls**t. The lady is a flat liberal running as a Republican. This is a CONSERVATIVE forum. Perhaps you are looking for a Republican forum. Then you can champion liberals with the (R) logo.

21 posted on 10/20/2009 4:41:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: moose2004
Didn’t you attack McDonnell the other day calling him a “RINO?”

Provide a link to the post where I called McDonnell is a RINO.

22 posted on 10/20/2009 4:42:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: moose2004

Around EVERY corner? Scuzzyfava is for gay marriage, for unrestrained abortion, for socialized medicine, for ACORN, for union thuggery. Is there any issue he doesn’t side with the Democrats on?


23 posted on 10/20/2009 4:44:05 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: moose2004
I’m tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS.

A little research on Scozzafava might clear your sinuses. She is no friend to conservatives.

24 posted on 10/20/2009 4:44:13 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Cedric

Cedric my FRiend I hope you are well and all is good. The “I See A RINO Around Every Corner” group is hard at work tonight. I especially enjoyed their pathetic “RINO” attacks on McDonnell, what a joke.


25 posted on 10/20/2009 4:45:31 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004; Cedric
Republicans first, Conservatives last I see.
26 posted on 10/20/2009 4:46:42 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: moose2004
Rabscuttle never called Mark Sanford a RINO even though he was using his horn to a fare the well!
27 posted on 10/20/2009 4:48:03 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2365748/posts


28 posted on 10/20/2009 4:49:38 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I've watched your ilk recently attack and label all of the following as RINOs: {just a sampling} Chris Smith, Dana Rohrbacher, Sam Brownback, Bob Corker, John Cornyn, Pete Sessions, John Kyl, Judd Gregg, Jeb Bush (by happenstance of birth) and Connie Mack (by marriage).

But, I can't remember your cabal summoning up the fortitude to attack Obama.

29 posted on 10/20/2009 4:56:54 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: moose2004

I only posted an article...an article that itself did not call Bob McDonnell a RINO or any of its equivalents. Hell, it was an article taken straight from The Washington Times that reported on McCain’s and McDonnell’s quotes from the rally.

However, I **NEVER** said “Bob McDonnell is a RINO” or its equivalent, not in [brackets] or in any other comment.

Try coloring within the lines next time.


30 posted on 10/20/2009 4:57:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

No more RINOS!!


31 posted on 10/20/2009 4:58:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Cedric; Virginia Ridgerunner; dcwusmc; calcowgirl; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; NFHale; Squantos; ...
But, I can't remember your cabal summoning up the fortitude to attack Obama.

Now, I do remember YOUR cabal drawing up hit lists and slandering long-standing FReepers as "trolls."

32 posted on 10/20/2009 5:00:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s impossible to slander you.


33 posted on 10/20/2009 5:02:08 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric

You’re an idiot.


34 posted on 10/20/2009 5:03:28 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: moose2004

You silly man. I think that you have been living in a cave. This woman is to the left of Obama and has been wanting to become a Dem for many years. She will once elected - take that to the bank. We will be much better off if the Dem wins, we can contest the seat again in 2010.


35 posted on 10/20/2009 5:04:14 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Cedric
It’s impossible to slander you.

You're a tool, Cedric. You and the rest of the RINOpubbie crew on FR. If you want Scozzabama so badly, you can have her!

36 posted on 10/20/2009 5:06:02 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385; pissant
You need to know a few things about Cedric here. First, he (or she) was a big time McCain supporter who repeatedly insisted that all was fine and well with the staff overseeing Sarah Palin during the campaign.

Next, he (or she) has unfortunate tendencies toward delusions of grandeur, once telling me that he (or she) knew everything and was the smartest person in the world.

Finally, he (or she) generally holds Conservatives in contempt and is a party hack extraordinaire, often insinuating that he (or she) is some kind of high-level GOP insider.

Personally, I think Cedric is first-class nutcase and general nuisance to the forum.

37 posted on 10/20/2009 5:10:45 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Jim Robinson

No more reckless RINO labels!


38 posted on 10/20/2009 5:12:40 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385

The RINO Brigade escaped from their chicken coops, I see ;-)


39 posted on 10/20/2009 5:12:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Cedric

Pete Sessions is leading the attack on the conservative in this race and endorsed the Liberal candidate. John Cornyn voted for the stimulas did he not? Favored amnesty. Lately he’s trying to cut conservatives off in the knees by recruiting Liberals like Crist to run for office. Brownback? Amnesty. Jeb Bush? Amnesty. Judd Gregg? OMG are you serious? You think he’s a conservative? LOL His state was turning to the Democrat’s and lacking any core principle he started trending there himself.

I don’t think you get it. This is a conservative site. When Republicans advance positions that are not conservative they will be called out. These days it is more frequent. I’ll admit that. I’ll admit when they make a wrong move my reaction is to question their allegiance and whether we have another potential traitor on our hands. Too many Republicans have betrayed us too many time’s that I expect it. Like the partner who has multiple affairs then the one time he/she doesn’t and swears it’s not true...it’s too late.

They put themselves in this mess.

When they make the fatal mistake of endorsing a position that is only not conservative but is one the base considers a litmus test you will always struggle to regain trust.

None of the Republicans have a perfect track record. But there are things as a Republican if you want conservative approval you just do not do. And Ms. Dede here breaks every single one.


40 posted on 10/20/2009 5:15:38 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker
John Cornyn voted for the stimulas did he not? Favored amnesty.

Will all due respect, neither of those assertions are true.

41 posted on 10/20/2009 5:18:23 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; pissant; stephenjohnbanker; Cedric
You need to know a few things about Cedric here. First, he (or she) was a big time McCain supporter who repeatedly insisted that all was fine and well with the staff overseeing Sarah Palin during the campaign.

Cedric was a McCainiac?

Well, now that puts his/her actions in perspective.

42 posted on 10/20/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
She's more liberal than the Democrat.

No she's not.

43 posted on 10/20/2009 5:22:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: okie01; Soul Seeker; AuntB
Will all due respect, neither of those assertions are true.

Oh really?

"But if we don't have comprehensive immigration reform as a part of our border security and homeland security efforts, we're doomed to fail." (Cornyn, 2005)

44 posted on 10/20/2009 5:23:40 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
You need to know a few things about Cedric here.

He's remarkably handsome and virile, with a wit the envy of all, his intellect is just short of omniscient, he is both a man's man and a lady's man with a grateful trophy wife (42-24-34) who will testify to his charisma and sensuality.

45 posted on 10/20/2009 5:23:42 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric

If she walks like a duck and talks like a duck, she’s a RINO.


46 posted on 10/20/2009 5:26:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: rabscuttle385

Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava is what us conservatives call a “MCCAIN REPUBLICAN”.


47 posted on 10/20/2009 5:26:53 PM PDT by WaterBoard (Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money to spend.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Thanks for proving my point.

{Judd Gregg 83% rating by The American CONSERVATIVE Union}

48 posted on 10/20/2009 5:27:32 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385
Followed this link from Wikipedia's entry on Scozzafava.

Club for Growth darling Doug Hoffman is running on the Conservative Party line, and has even garnered the endorsement of Fred Thompson. The guy has legitimate traction, fueled by the fact that Dede Scozzafava, the Republican, is actually the most liberal candidate in the race. (Heck, she has run on the very liberalWorking Families Party ballot line in the past.)

Sure, she is a Republican, and opposes the public option. But she's been willing to raise taxes when budgets require it, and is to the left of most Democrats on social issues (including supporting gay marriage). That's why conservatives are panicked about her -- for a party that is becoming more regional, more conservative, more ideologically rigid, Scozzafava's brand of moderate conservatism is grating. Hence, Hoffman has a real shot at not just playing spoiler and undermining the GOP candidate's chances, but also of potentially winning.

The "Democrat" isn't even a Democrat -- he was a registered independent when selected by the district's Democratic county chairs for the special election. On social issues, he's pro-choice, but opposes gay marriage. On health care, he opposes a public option but doesn't have the balls to say so, so he talks all squishy like claiming he has no "litmus test" on the issue. He's a Lieberdem Blue Dog, and would strengthen the part of the Democratic caucus that is actually the problem, rather than the solution.

So who to root for? A Blue Dog who would strengthen the Democrats' corporatist faction, or a Republican version of a Lieberdem, who will probably be muzzled, but could -- if she remained true to her record in Albany -- be more of a Susan Collins-type Republican, a moderate in an ideologically rigid party willing to give the Dems fake "bipartisan" cover with crossover votes every once in a while.

If Republicans lose the seat, it'll dent that sense of momentum they believe is headed their way. If they win the seat, it will have been with a liberal Republican, suggesting that their path to electoral relevance in the northeast is to ditch the Southern-fueled ultra conservatism. Both are good for us.

If the Democrat loses the race, we lose nothing -- it was previously held by a Republican. If he wins the seat, we gain another obnoxious Blue Dog, undermining our caucus from within while adding just a single vote to our already dominant House majorities. More than likely, a net disadvantage.

So it's official, I'm rooting for the Republican to win. As a congresswoman, she could either move even more to the left to properly represent her progressive-trending district and be a pain in the side of the GOP caucus (they have nothing like our Blue Dogs), or Democrats can field a real Democrat to challenge her in 2010.

49 posted on 10/20/2009 5:27:37 PM PDT by M203M4 (Damn, another boating trip, another los)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yeah, so’s that low-down, dirty-rotten, RINO, Chris Smith!
50 posted on 10/20/2009 5:29:05 PM PDT by Cedric
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