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NY-23 2009: Democrats Fan The Flames Of Scozzafava's Tax Troubles [she explored becoming a Rat]
The New York Daily News ^ | 2009-10-20 | Elizabeth Benjamin

Posted on 10/20/2009 3:59:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Democrats once flirted with running Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava for the seat Rep. John McHugh will soon vacate in NY-23, but now that she's a leading contender for the GOP nod, they are rushing to bolster conservative concerns about her alleged tax troubles.

Soon-to-be-former state Democratic Chairwoman June O'Neill today confirmed reports that Scozzafava's husband, an upstate labor leader, talked with key local Democrats and union heads about the possibility of his wife running on Row A if the party's presumed first choice, state Sen. Darrel Aubertine, takes a pass.

"Her husband spoke with several Democratic officials and, you know, people who are aligned with the Democratic Party," O'Neill said. "There was some discussion about whether or not Dede might switch parties, but the whole tax thing is problematic on a number of levels. We didn't want to start out with any problems."

According to O'Neill, this isn't the first time the Democrats have spoken to Scozzafava about switching sides.

The talks started after the GOP passed Scozzafava over in favor of her Assembly colleague, Will Barclay, to run against Aubertine in the 48th SD special election back in February 2008.

The Republicans worried Scozzafava would be seen as too liberal - particularly since she had voted "yes" on gay marriage, while Aubertine, a conservative Democrat, voted "no". Aubertine easily defeated Barclay in that election, and a number of GOP operatives privately conceded after the fact that Scozzafava would have been a better candidate.

I asked O'Neill why Democrats are suddenly willing to speak publicly about the tax issue - more than $192,000 in unpaid state and federal taxes owed by Scozzafava's brother's business, to which the assemblywoman says she now has only the most tenuous of connections.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: corruptdems; corruptrinos; democrats; gingrich4obama; gingrichisarino; gopfailure; gopimplosion; hoffman; nrcc4obama; ny23; rino; rinos4obama; rnc4obama; scozzafava; scozzafavaisarino
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To: moose2004; Extremely Extreme Extremist; hiredhand; Squantos; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385

RE moose2004:
“...I’m tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS....”

Nope. Not attacking every Repub. Just the ones who really ARE RINOs. Do the names Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, Lindsay Graham ring a bell? At almost every opportunity these “moderates” ( I call them gutless cowards) side with the enemy most recenty Snowe screwed us over, last week.

And this NY idiot is as flaming a lefty as you can get.

There are AMERICANS...and then there are Liberals.

NO RINOs. Not Now, Not Ever.

If that means writing in a candidate that’s what I will do. I do not and WILL NOT automatically push the “R” lever just because “Oh my, oh gee, we just HAVE to beat the Democrat!”

Does us NO GOOD to replace a liberal with a liberal.

Better the enemy you know, than have someone we put there turn on us at a critical time for a critical vote.

As for being “tired of certain people on this site” - that’s called freedom of speech. You also have the freedom to NOT read their comments and move along to someone that agrees with you.

At the end of the day, one team, one fight. But not when we let the enemy decide who our candidates will be.


51 posted on 10/20/2009 5:31:56 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: rabscuttle385; Virginia Ridgerunner

I thought he was an Entertainer? Who knew


52 posted on 10/20/2009 5:34:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; rabscuttle385

“I thought he was an Entertainer? Who knew?”

LOL!


53 posted on 10/20/2009 5:41:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: batter

That crap goes on in Utah too. Usually it is by a Dem turning Rep (in name only) in order to win the election and push their liberal agenda. A complacent (lazy) electorate is to blame, however.
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Yes. This is the real long term battle we all have - against apathy. I think America might be waking up...we’re all praying so.


54 posted on 10/20/2009 5:47:20 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: moose2004

Do you see see a RINO around every corner?
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You have to admit, there are a lot of ‘em. They do a horrible job of hiding their inclinations. They don’t even seem phased that the base of the R party is CONSERVATIVE.


55 posted on 10/20/2009 5:49:03 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Scoffalawza is a real winner.


56 posted on 10/20/2009 5:49:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: moose2004

I’m tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS.
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Moose, please admit, there’s a massive amount of clean up to do on aisle RINO of the Republican party. This has been generations in the making and they play perfectly into the socialists hands/plans.


58 posted on 10/20/2009 5:51:21 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: cc2k

B T T T


59 posted on 10/20/2009 5:55:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: SeattleBruce
There are many repubs who I think are complicit, in bed with, accomplices...ie., on the same team as the dems. RINO moles from waaaaaay back.

I am not a believer in a 3rd party right now, but I trust no one active in either party.

60 posted on 10/20/2009 5:55:54 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: FreeReign

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2366985/posts?page=57#57

Your sources?


61 posted on 10/20/2009 5:56:46 PM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Cedric; rabscuttle385
Then why the hell are you telling a candidate to get out of a party you don't belong to?
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Mebbe he'll rejoin, if we take care of business? Like get rid of the RINO infestation?


62 posted on 10/20/2009 5:58:31 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: listenhillary
Your sources?

Your source doesn't compare the two candidates. As I said the Republican is not more liberal than the Democrat.

63 posted on 10/20/2009 6:02:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: IrishPennant

I am not a believer in a 3rd party right now, but I trust no one active in either party.
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I agree Irish. Right now, we need to clean up the Republican party. In the history of the United States, not a single third party has come close to winning the presidency, only 7 3rd parties have even won a single state’s electoral votes and only 5 third parties have won even 10% of the vote.

The only exception to this would be if there was a shock to our body politic of the kind that led us into the Civil War. Are we on the edge of that? Short of that, 3rd party politics will FAIL. Do we have 20 years to sit around and dink around with that?

Much better alternative: Clean out the Republican party and run a robust Reagan style conservative message. Much less compromise...and it will WORK.

That said, I support the Conservative in NY-23. His election would send a strong message to the national GOP, imho.


64 posted on 10/20/2009 6:02:27 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: FreeReign

As I said the Republican is not more liberal than the Democrat.
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Who cares - still a horrible choice...support the Conservative.


65 posted on 10/20/2009 6:03:17 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: cc2k
If I were you I would removed the link, "Obama campaigns for conservative Democrat (NY23)" from your post. Owen isn't conservative and Obama would never campaign for a conservative.

Just a suggestion.

66 posted on 10/20/2009 6:05:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SeattleBruce

100% with you on your post!!!!


67 posted on 10/20/2009 6:07:03 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: SeattleBruce
Who cares - still a horrible choice...support the Conservative.

Why don't you ask that question to the posters who seem to feel the need to elevate the conservative credentials of the Democrat candidate?

Thanks.

68 posted on 10/20/2009 6:07:17 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: moose2004

We report, you decide (info provided by local tea party group)

DEDE SCOZZAFAVA

Website : http://www.dedeforcongress.com/

Prior public office experience : since 1998

Profession : COO for Seaway Capital Partner and Corporate Secretary for Wise Buy Stores

Education : Scozzafava holds a Bachelor of Science degree from the Boston University School of Management and a Masters in Business Administration from the Clarkson Graduate School of Management.

Positions :
For the Obama stimulus
For card check / Against secret ballot in union elections
Does not support ‘no pork’ pledge
Signed no tax pledge October 15th
For Cash for Clunkers
Does not support school choice / vouchers
Does not support teacher testing / merit pay
Does not support concealed carry
For same-sex marriage
For expanded ‘hate crimes’ legislation
For inclusion of sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws
Believes abortion should be legal in all cases
For making morning-after pills available to minors without a doctor’s prescription
Endorsements / Supporters:
National Rifle Association
New York State United Teachers
Newt Gingrich
Rep. Pete Sessions
Rep. Jeb Hensarling
Republican National Committee
National Republican Congressional Committee
Daily Kos
(Endorsed by Working Families Party (ACORN affiliate) in prior races)
Background :
Scozzafava was first elected to the New York State Assembly in 1998. She was a Village of Gouverneur Trustee for four years and Mayor of the Village of Gouverneur from 1993 until her election to the State Assembly. Scozzafava has been appointed to serve on the Assembly Standing Committees of Ways and Means, Ethics and Guidance, and Banks for the 2005-2006 Legislative Session, and is the Ranking Member on the Assembly’s Codes Committee. Previously, she served on the Task Force on Education Standards, the Nursing Shortage Task Force, the Legislative Commission on Critical Transportation Choices, and the Task Force on Integrative Medicine and Agriculture. Scozzafava is married to Ron McDougall, the head of the Jefferson-Lewis-St. Lawrence County Central Labor Council and a UAW member.
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Q : What is your source for the list of Dede Scozzafava’s positions on the issues?

http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=22881

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=22881

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=22881

Q : What is your source for the assertion that Dede Scozzafava is supported by Daily Kos, a left-wing blog?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/1/788504/-NY-23:-The-most-liberal-candidate-leads-(and-its-not-the-Dem)

Q : What is your source for the assertion that Dede Scozzafava has been supported by an ACORN affiliated group?

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/09/acorn-aubertine-ny-23-heats-up.html#more

Q : What is your source for the assertion that Dede Scozzafava is being supported by Jeb Hensarling?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/Scozzafavas_conservative_endorser.html

Further, I personally called Jeb Hensarling’s local office, and confirmed this information. The number is 214-349-9996, if you have any questions or would like to verify the information for yourself.

Q : What is your source for the assertion that Dede Scozzafava is being supported by Pete Sessions?

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=31D2EEAE-18FE-70B2-A8921DB076A7E7DF


69 posted on 10/20/2009 6:08:06 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: FreeReign

Markos Moulitsas, of Daily Kos fame, has declared her the most liberal candidate in the race — that’s in large part a function of liberals’ dissatisfaction with the Democratic candidate, Bill Owens, though.

A “radical leftist” as Republican candidate?
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/10/20/ny_special/


70 posted on 10/20/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Cedric

No more reckless RINO labels!
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What constitutes a RINO?
What constitutes a reckless RINO labeling?


71 posted on 10/20/2009 6:11:18 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: moose2004

If you compare the Democrat Bill Owens to the Republican, they agree on all the same things, except he is against same sex marriage, I believe the case could be made that the Democrat actually is more conservative than the Republican. So what is the point of electing a Republican, what does it gain us? I normally agree that 3rd parties don’t do anything but split the vote, but in this case it looks like the liberal vote could be split between Dems and Republicans, and the Conservative would get ALL the conservative voters.

DOUG HOFFMAN

Website : http://doughoffmanforcongress.com/

Prior public office experience : None

Profession : Accountant and Entrepreneur

Education : Hoffman holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Accounting from SUNY Plattsburgh, an MBA in Finance and Accounting from the University of Connecticut (1976). He is a Certified Public Accountant.

Positions:
Against the Obama stimulus
Against Cash for Clunkers
Against card check / FOR secret ballot in union elections
Signed no tax pledge in August 2009
Signed no pork pledge
For school choice
Against same-sex marriage
‘Pro-life, period.’
Endorsements / Supporters :
Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)
Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX)
Club for Growth PAC
American Conservative Union
The Conservative Victory Fund
National Republican Trust PAC
New York State Right to Life PAC
Susan B. Anthony List
Concerned Women PAC
Family Research Council Action PAC
Police Benevolent Association of the New York State Troopers
Background :
Hoffman is a Managing Partner of Dragon Benware Crowley & Co. (www.dragonbenware.com) and oversees Hoffman Family Enterprises (www.hoffmanfamilyenterprises.com) a diverse group of companies involved in Investments, Real Estate, Construction, Hospitality and Tourism. Hoffman served as a member of the New York State National Guard from 1970 – 1973 and the U.S. Army Reserves from 1973-1976. Hoffman held the rank of Staff Sergeant at the time of his discharge. Hoffman also served as Corporate Controller for the Lake Placid 1980 Olympic Organizing Committee, overseeing a budget of $150 million and eventually 2,500 employees and 6000 volunteers. Hoffman’s wife Carol is a highly decorated Trooper in the New York State Police.
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BILL OWENS (D Candidate)

Website : http://www.billowensforcongress.com/

Prior public office experience : None

Profession : Attorney

Positions :
For card check / Against secret ballot in union elections
For the stimulus package
Against same-sex marriage
Pro-choice
Endorsements / Supporters:
President Barack Obama
Former President Bill Clinton
Vice President Joe Biden
SEIU
Working Families Party (ACORN affiliate)
Background :
Bill Owens is Managing Partner at the law firm Stafford, Owens, Piller, Murnane, & Trombley, PLLC, and has practiced for 30 years. Owens has served in the Air Force as a Captain at the Plattsburgh Air Force Base. Owens has also served on the boards of a number of civic organizations.

Bill is married to Jane Owens, his wife of 36 years.


72 posted on 10/20/2009 6:15:25 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: M203M4

“their path to electoral relevance in the northeast is to ditch the Southern-fueled ultra conservatism.”
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Ya just gotta love the looney lefties stereotyped language of us...maroons..


73 posted on 10/20/2009 6:15:51 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: FreeReign

See post 71 & 72


74 posted on 10/20/2009 6:18:24 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: NFHale; Cedric; moose2004

Nope. Not attacking every Repub. Just the ones who really ARE RINOs. Do the names Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, Lindsay Graham ring a bell? At almost every opportunity these “moderates” ( I call them gutless cowards) side with the enemy most recenty Snowe screwed us over, last week.
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Right. It’s quite the infestation. Let’s come to an agreement there Cedric, Moose...can you agree on those names??


75 posted on 10/20/2009 6:18:56 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: boxlunch

Oops, I meant post 69 and 72, sorry


76 posted on 10/20/2009 6:19:57 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: NFHale

If that means writing in a candidate that’s what I will do. I do not and WILL NOT automatically push the “R” lever just because “Oh my, oh gee, we just HAVE to beat the Democrat!”

Does us NO GOOD to replace a liberal with a liberal.
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In fact you could certainly argue that this hurts the party in the long run - driving it leftward in its quest to win baby, just win.

At what cost? ENOUGH! That measly, mealy mouthed victory is not what we’re fighting tooth and nail on the brink for. Sorry.


77 posted on 10/20/2009 6:20:52 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m voting for him...although he voted for Gvo. Wilder’s “one gun a month” fiasco.
Just have a hard time trusting a gun controller.


78 posted on 10/20/2009 6:26:43 PM PDT by Yorktownpatriot
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To: rabscuttle385; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2284388/posts?page=128#128

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2284388/posts?page=67#67

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2283523/posts?page=60#60

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2197501/posts?page=45#45

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2130423/posts?page=25#25

and THIS ONE...

"McCain became my favorite candidate when he defeated Mitt, who was my favorite candidate after Fred dropped out, who was my favorite candidate because Cheney didn't run."

Finally, let's not forget Cedric's infamous list of "trolls":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2119926/posts?page=9#9

Need I say anything more about this fruitcake?

79 posted on 10/20/2009 6:46:58 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SeattleBruce; cc2k

“....Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, Lindsay Graham”

“...Moose...can you agree on those names??”

Yes. I’ll add one, Lisa Murkowski. I agree there are RINO’s, no question, but I also strongly believe that some on this site toss that name around too mch. Don’t you agree?


80 posted on 10/20/2009 6:53:46 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: SeattleBruce
I’m tired of certain people on this site, always the same ones, who attack almost every Repub as a RINO. I smell BS.

Nobody is making you stay. Keep in mind this is a conservative website, not a Republicrat website. What you smell is conservatives disgust with the increasingly socialist OP(formerly the GOP). Conservatives aren't buying the incremental socialism being pushed by the likes of Scozzafava, Gingrich, McAmnesty, Snowe, Collins, Grahamnesty etc... It's a long list.
82 posted on 10/20/2009 7:15:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
If she walks like a duck and talks like a duck, she’s a RINO.

It doesn't rhyme but it's deep.
83 posted on 10/20/2009 7:18:35 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Normally, I support the Republican candidate under any and all circumstances. But these aren’t normal circumstances. Dede is clearly a flaming liberal. Hoffman will outpoll her and may even win the election. After it’s over, I hope Sessions, Hensarling and other real conservatives who supported Dede out of a misguided sense of party loyalty will show some contrition. If so, they should be accepted back into the fold. This should be a good lesson for them, if they are willing to learn.


84 posted on 10/20/2009 7:54:33 PM PDT by liberlog
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Thank you for cataloging my profundities for posterity.

Keep up the good work. There is no more valuable or meaningful task you will ever perform.

85 posted on 10/20/2009 7:54:39 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rabscuttle385

Can’t argue with that. You’re right on target IMO.


86 posted on 10/20/2009 9:04:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Not at all. LOL


87 posted on 10/20/2009 9:09:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: NFHale

When our choices last year came down to McCain or Obama, I knew there wasn’t a chance in hell I’d vote for one of those two.

It is astounding to me how out of touch it Republican leadership is.


88 posted on 10/20/2009 9:20:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why didn’t Hoffman run for the Republican party??? This race is going to be won by the Democrat because two Republicans basically ganged up on each other and both are so selfish to look out for their district and only care about themeselves. Idiots!!! Oh well thank God they are not in my district!!!!


89 posted on 10/20/2009 9:57:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rabscuttle385
It's New York State... Running on Line A doesn't mean you have to become a Democrat. Candidates are often on both lines A & B (Democrat and Republican), and sometimes also listed for Liberal and Conservative parties simultaneously, too, though usually that's for local races.
90 posted on 10/20/2009 9:57:38 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: moose2004
I agree there are RINO’s, no question, but I also strongly believe that some on this site toss that name around too mch. Don’t you agree?

Well, "RINO" might include any who were in favor of the Iraq War, as "Republican" was non-interventionist a century ago. If someone wants to consider interventionism "Republican," then that person is a liberal...i.e., not conservatively keeping the definition of conservative or Republican as it was back when non-interventionist Senator Taft was known as "Mr. Republican," or when FDR was pushing to get us into the WWII, etc.

So yes, it's a very slippery term.

91 posted on 10/20/2009 10:01:26 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: napscoordinator

Do a little more reading on this election, if you’re interested. There was no primary—this leftist candidate was handpicked by state and local GOP apparatchiks, and reportedly “blessed” by the national GOP apparatchiks.

Hoffman vied to run as a republican, but was passed over in favor of a leftist. He continues to be a registered republican while running on the conservative party line, and would caucus with the GOP if elected.

Meanwhile the national GOP is doing everything it can to discredit Hoffman and win the race for the leftist—including sending gobs of money donated to support conservatives.


92 posted on 10/20/2009 10:31:17 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

What precisely is a RINO, or if it would be more helpful, what policy stances must a candidate take to be a RINO? If a candidate was pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-defense, and pro small government, but say supported amnesty for illegals, would they be considered a RINO or conservative?


93 posted on 10/20/2009 10:48:38 PM PDT by Nathan James
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To: rabscuttle385

What a clusterflop!


94 posted on 10/20/2009 11:10:30 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Nathan James
Nathan James
This account has been banned or suspended.


Apparently you have received your answer.


ZOT!!!
95 posted on 10/21/2009 1:33:28 AM PDT by DangerZone (RINOs rather lose with a liberal candidate than win with a conservative one.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder if Sean Hannity will ask his good friend Newt Gringich about Newt’s support of Dede? Ya think?


96 posted on 10/21/2009 3:43:17 AM PDT by LeavingNewYork (We are at war with Oceania; we have always been at war with Oceania.)
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To: moose2004

I’ll bet that Gingrich opposes all of them.


97 posted on 10/21/2009 5:47:37 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior

Opposes who?


98 posted on 10/21/2009 5:48:54 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Cedric
Here's a question that hasn't been asked...at least not by me...maybe you've answered it in the past and if so...I apologize for the re-address:

Question: How liberal does a candidate bearing the (R) next to their name have to be before you would not vote (whether you stayed home or voted 3rd party) for them in the general election because enough is enough?

Where is YOUR line in the sand? Would you always vote for the (R) over the (D) even if the (R) held the same positions as Bernie Sanders?

99 posted on 10/21/2009 6:13:56 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: DangerZone; Nathan James; darkangel82; 50mm; hiredhand; Old Sarge; darkwing104

ZOT! at 93


100 posted on 10/21/2009 6:59:45 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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