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Do Elite Private Colleges Discriminate Against Asian Students?
US News & World Report ^ | 7 October 2009 | Kim Clark

Posted on 10/20/2009 4:24:19 PM PDT by Bob017

A recent study of the applicants to seven elite colleges in 1997 found that Asian students were much more likely to be rejected than seemingly similar students of other races. Also, athletes and students from top high schools had admissions edges, as did low-income African-Americans and Hispanics.

Translating the advantages into SAT scores, study author Thomas Espenshade, a Princeton sociologist, calculated that African-Americans who achieved 1150 scores on the two original SAT tests had the same chances of getting accepted to top private colleges in 1997 as whites who scored 1460s and Asians who scored perfect 1600s...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: admissions; affirmativeaction; asianamericans; highereducation; preferences
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To: Bob017

I would think that a PRIVATE college could choose whom they will and will not accept...for whatever reason.


41 posted on 10/20/2009 8:45:00 PM PDT by mo
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To: mo

It’s called Asian Fail.


42 posted on 10/20/2009 11:08:53 PM PDT by gman992
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To: SeekAndFind
"Asians have shown that they are good at PREPARING for tests. Here in New York City, I see lots of SAT preparation review schools. If you ever come here, I invite you to visit a few of them and count the PERCENTAGE of Asian students attending them compared to blacks, Hispanics and Whites...You’ll be surprised (or won’t be as the case may be) to see that almost 90% of the attendees are Asians. Blacks and Hispanics are almost non-existent in these classes."

I lived in a Big 10 town, a relatively small one as they go. Your description sounds identical the the entire campus on Saturday game-days.

While the Asian students were busily scurrying back & forth from lab, engineering buildings, library etc. One of my brand couldn't help noticing & thinking: "Hmmmmmm".

43 posted on 10/21/2009 3:26:36 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: Dem Guard; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
"My brother used to work for a university with a bowling alley. I'll never forget him telling me a bunch of new Chinese students went bowling and they thought they bought the rented shows for 75 cents. He said you could see rented bowling alley shoes all over the university...lol"

BWWWWWWHAAAAAAAAA!!!
Here they're worried about H1V1 when there're sure signs of The Big PX Syndrome all over the place. LOL

{Of course you meant, "shoes". ~eh? LOL}

44 posted on 10/21/2009 3:31:28 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Holy cow—they’re not going to give themselves a 450-point SAT advantage by taking a prep class!


45 posted on 10/21/2009 3:31:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: gussiefinknottle; dandiegirl

And black kids would relatively say the same thing about white kids.

Within the safe racial group, the brighter kids have more intellectual interests, on average, than the less-bright ones.


46 posted on 10/21/2009 3:34:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bob017
"Well the ironic thing is that while they are discriminating in favour of two minority groups, they are also discriminating against another minority. It’s a very contradictory racial spoils system."

LOL!!!!!!
Well *you* may call the situation, "ironic", my friend, we Yanks call it equality. But I can appreciate your, ahhhhh, confusion. Because obviously you're confused. LOL!!!!!!

Think all that's nuts?
Just wait'll you SEE what passes for "diversity". LOL!!

47 posted on 10/21/2009 3:37:31 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: Landru

You would make a sharp editor, that ‘shows’ vs ‘shoes’ typo went right past me, lol

SOOO in accordance with the topic of this thread, time for an MKJ politically incorrect joke (repeated for chuckles, not to make fun of anyone) going back a good 50 years:

Q - Why don’t they have telephones in China?

A - Because of Mr. Wong. Everyone is always “winging the wong number”

(groan) ;)


48 posted on 10/21/2009 5:32:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (The media can find the most obscure data about Sarah Palin but can't find 0bama's birth certificate!)
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To: mkjessup; Dem Guard; The Comedian; stephenjohnbanker
"You would make a sharp editor, that ‘shows’ vs ‘shoes’ typo went right past me, lol" Well thanks my friend, but au contraire.
1) I've known the doofus --God Bless 'em-- my entire life, have been correcting his spelling at least over the past 20 years. And DON'T believe 'em if he tells ya I wrote his love letters to his X, explaining why she split. ;^)
2) I catch all but my own gaffes. Is that a cruel juxtaposition of life, or what? LOL
3) The real accomplishment here is what time of day I caught it. :o)

"SOOO in accordance with the topic of this thread, time for an MKJ politically incorrect joke (repeated for chuckles, not to make fun of anyone) going back a good 50 years:
Q - Why don’t they have telephones in China?
A - Because of Mr. Wong. Everyone is always 'winging the wong number'
(groan) ;)

BWWWWHAAAAAA!!!
{{{{applause}}} Stand up Joe, take a bow!! LOL!!

Comedian, more joke box material here!
You got serious competition as it seems the ol' tome's really true: Everyone does want to get into the act. LOL!!

49 posted on 10/21/2009 7:01:15 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: Landru

And for my next act...

Classified personal ad in Beijing newspaper:

“WANTED - 1000 lb Chinese cook, looking for 1000 lb Chinese waitress. Object: ‘Won Ton Soup’.

[cymbal crash] lol

Hey, thanks folks (budda boom budda bing), I’ll be here all week, try the veal!


50 posted on 10/21/2009 7:48:39 AM PDT by mkjessup (The media can find the most obscure data about Sarah Palin but can't find 0bama's birth certificate!)
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To: mkjessup
BWWWWHAAA!!!

"Hey, thanks folks (budda boom budda bing), I’ll be here all week, try the veal!"

Not if ya seen how they're treated!! LOL

Trying --desperately-- to get to the other thread --the potential "Dead Thread" we'll be trapped in until the end of time LOL-- to respond to your other pings!! Can't.

Is this what hell's like? LOL!!

51 posted on 10/21/2009 7:55:40 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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“Classified personal ad in Beijing newspaper:

“WANTED - 1000 lb Chinese cook, looking for 1000 lb Chinese waitress. Object: ‘Won Ton Soup’.

[cymbal crash] lol”

That did it..........where’s my cane??


52 posted on 10/21/2009 8:05:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Bob017

They can’t be serious can they?The private schools I know of go out of their way to recruit and develope Asian students.The number of Asians of all nationalities has gone up at some of the private universities in Connecticut.


53 posted on 10/21/2009 8:05:57 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: TopQuark

That’s why I said Asians don’t “seem” to be quite as social. I really don’t know. I agree that the Asians are miles ahead of most American kids as far as making the grades by doing the work required. They seem to have more of a sense of duty as far as studying is concerned than the average white guy/girl. Of course there are exceptions to every situation.


54 posted on 10/21/2009 9:50:57 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Uncle Hal
And it would be even higher than 40% if Asian students were not discriminated against via affirmative action.

Nobody gets it worse than a mediocre Asian student. An Asian student with scores and grades that would get a white kid into MIT doesn't have a chance in hell of getting admitted.

55 posted on 10/21/2009 9:55:42 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: Landru; mkjessup; Dem Guard; stephenjohnbanker
Comedian, more joke box material here! You got serious competition as it seems the ol' tome's really true: Everyone does want to get into the act. LOL!!

OK. Politically incorrect joke competition, eh?

I can do that.

(cracks knuckles)

(deep breath)

Q. How can you get AIDS from a toilet seat?
A. By sitting down before the last guy gets up.

(rim shot)


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

56 posted on 10/21/2009 10:01:49 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian; Landru; mkjessup; Dem Guard

Mercy!!


57 posted on 10/21/2009 10:12:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; The Comedian; mkjessup
The man's genuinely funny.

As long as he doesn't look for validation from the banal, he'll be OK. LOL

58 posted on 10/21/2009 11:00:05 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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