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New Pterosaur Fossil Forces Re-think of Standard Evolution
ICR News ^ | October 21, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 10/21/2009 8:28:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Charles Darwin admitted that the sudden appearance of fully formed creatures in fossil deposits was one of the biggest problems with his hypothesis that nature generated living creatures through natural selection. His vision of organisms gradually morphing from one kind to another over vast time spans predicted that most fossils should reflect that steady grading from one basic body plan to another.

Some scientists believe they have found a creature that bridges one of the many gaps in the fossil record, although it requires a significant reworking of evolutionary theory. The crow-sized pterosaur fossil from China has been named Darwinopterus in honor of the “year of Darwin.” This is certainly ironic, considering the fact that the creature had none of the partially graded features that would show transition from one to the other of the two major pterosaur types. Instead, it demonstrated a unique mosaic of fully functional body parts...

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1 posted on 10/21/2009 8:28:28 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/21/2009 8:33:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Looks like they don’t have all the answers yet!


3 posted on 10/21/2009 8:33:28 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: GodGunsGuts

The mosaic pattern (think Platypus) instead of gradualistic intermediates is significant even within creationary thinking. I would actually expect more gradation in nature, as much as allowable by design constraints. Instead we seem to have a more discrete, modular nature of living forms. It would be interesting to explore the degree to which this is driven by design constraints, and the degree to which it is presumably due to other factors (such as negating any evolutionary explanation).


4 posted on 10/21/2009 8:34:58 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 10/21/2009 8:41:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Charles Darwin admitted that the sudden appearance of fully formed creatures in fossil deposits was one of the biggest problems with his hypothesis that nature generated living creatures through natural selection."

What a preposterous position upon which to attempt to refute Darwin. Do you even read this crap before you post it?

This condition can only be satisfied when ALL fossil evidence is available. Obviously no one can make the assertion that no fossil remains undiscovered and that a conclusion can now be made that the Darwinopterus "suddenly" and "spontaneously" appeared.

6 posted on 10/21/2009 8:43:21 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
Heard Dawkins last night pretending to understand evolution at the molecular level......

You see, if one pretends to have answers derived from such a “sophisticated position”, it invents a theoretical barrier for public debate.

The fact is they have no such understanding and the “scientific logic” does NOT hold together.

7 posted on 10/21/2009 8:45:16 AM PDT by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
GGG - a question (pardon me if you have already answered it).

Is it necessary to believe in a young earth creation in order to be saved?

8 posted on 10/21/2009 8:49:46 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (If we can't get good government, then I want as little government as possible.)
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To: Liberty1970

Meaning that you would have thought that God would have created a more blended creation, or that the capacity for change within the created kinds would make it look more blended and gradualistic?...I’m not sure I follow you here.


9 posted on 10/21/2009 8:51:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Notary Sojac

No.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 8:52:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: G Larry

Which is why Richard Dawkins is becoming a laughingstock, even among evolutionists.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 8:54:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law

LOL...the more fossils they find, the worse it gets for darwood’s evo-religous creation myth. Do your homework for a change.


12 posted on 10/21/2009 8:55:53 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Which is why Richard Dawkins is becoming a laughingstock, even among evolutionists.

It is not nor has it ever been about 'humans'. What is and will be protected is the system of 'scientific methodology'. But as with any doctrine the person that gains power to practice the system of 'scientific methodology' is where the harm is done.

IF evolutionist want to practice their system fine well and have at it. The harm was introduced to all of humanity when they got stature handed to them by the Supremes as the law of the land, and thus taxpayers have been required, even without representation to pay for their system...

Just wait a few years from now when BamaKennedy puts his touch on this system of 'scientific methodology', and what has been accepted as fittest to survive will be turned on its collective head. Some people are going to have to have their literal noses rubbed in that system before they will smell the smell.

13 posted on 10/21/2009 9:02:56 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Seems to me he has. It is you who insists on misinterpreting information to support your mistakenly held beliefs.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 9:03:41 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“Looks like they don’t have all the answers yet!”

What? Do you have any real understanding of science at all? Statements such as yours provide further reinforcement to the fact that creation “science” is nothing of the kind (not that any such additional evidence was necessary, of course).

Faith and science are separate and coexist nicely. When an article of faith is used as the presumed end state in scientific inquiry, however, the process that results is not science, but rationalization. Without falsification, it is instead the creation rationalizers who have all the answers, as evidenced by the last line from the article:

“See? Just like it says in Genesis! The End.”

The author, Brian Thomas MS*, remains a shameless rationalizer, easily contradicted by even the least prepared thinking person.


15 posted on 10/21/2009 9:03:47 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You knew it had to happen eventually.....


16 posted on 10/21/2009 9:03:52 AM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Just a National Security Threat, trying to get a nut.)
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To: Natural Law

As usual, they have cherry-picked one sentence upon which to base their claims against evolution. Go to G-Cube’s link, scroll to the bottom, click on the first link provided for the real story.


17 posted on 10/21/2009 9:04:57 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Charles Darwin admitted that the sudden appearance of fully formed creatures in fossil deposits was one of the biggest problems with his hypothesis that nature generated living creatures through natural selection. His vision of organisms gradually morphing from one kind to another over vast time spans predicted that most fossils should reflect that steady grading from one basic body plan to another.

That makes sense because we don't see living things popping up out of nowhere, created by God or anyone else.

18 posted on 10/21/2009 9:12:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
There is a school of thought in Platonism that says that the Creator would fill all morphospace. I don't understand it terribly well, but the gist of it is that if God loves variety, He would have created all possible forms of life - that there would be no empty but possible niches of living forms.

Now, Platonism is not Christianity, but various Christian thinkers have explored it and think it may be on to something. I don't think there is any reason to suppose God 'had' to fill all morphospace, but it does seem apparent that God produced a wonderful variety of life and delighted in it. If this intuition is correct, we should expect to see 'intermediates' insofar as present life is a subset (due to extinctions) of the original created variety of life. The pattern would not match evolutionism closely, but would superficially look like it if you did not attempt to fit the intermediates into a specific evolutionary framework.

(Attempts to do so would tend to fail, leading to lineages filled with question marks and competing lineages based on conflicting criteria - in other words, just what the evolutionary community is faced with today.)

19 posted on 10/21/2009 9:28:43 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Sorry to intrude, Notary Sojac.

I hope that you don't mind.

I have a question for you:

Jesus told the pharisees that they didn't't believe what He was saying because they didn't believe what Moses wrote about Him.

What did Moses write about Jesus? And...what didn't the pharisees believe in regard to Mose's writing about Jesus?

20 posted on 10/21/2009 9:28:45 AM PDT by pby
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