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'Missing Link' Primate Fossil Debunked
Discovery News ^ | Oct. 21, 2009 | Malcolm Ritter

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:36:09 PM PDT by bogusname

Remember Ida, the fossil discovery announced last May with its own book and TV documentary? A publicity blitz called it "the link" that would reveal the earliest evolutionary roots of monkeys, apes and humans.

Experts protested that Ida wasn't even a close relative. And now a new analysis supports their reaction...

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: afradapis; antiscienceevos; belongsinreligion; catholic; christian; creation; darwin; darwindrones; darwiniacs; darwiniusmasillae; evangelical; evolution; evoreligionexposed; fossil; howmanytimes; ida; intelligentdesign; longicristatus; notasciencetopic; primate; propellerbeanie; protestant; science; templeofdarwin

1 posted on 10/21/2009 9:36:10 PM PDT by bogusname
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To: bogusname

2 posted on 10/21/2009 9:37:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

ROTFL...That’s a different fossil pissant.


3 posted on 10/21/2009 9:39:09 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

Good to see that science polices itself in its constant search for fact-based truth. This is more proof that science, when applied properly, works.

How AGW has continued to exist for 6 years or so is a testament to funding formulas, not the scientific method.

So sad that philosophy has no such mechanism to even vet the basics.


4 posted on 10/21/2009 9:45:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
How AGW has continued to exist for 6 years or so is a testament to funding formulas, not the scientific method.

I agree absolutely. But AGW has been around longer than that. I recall reading scare stuff about it in the 1980s -- plenty of time for real science to call BS. But "scientific correctness" -- the party line required for funding and job security -- is undermining the true scientific method.

5 posted on 10/21/2009 10:02:24 PM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


6 posted on 10/21/2009 10:06:47 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Bernard Marx

Ditto. Here's another thread highlighting a different abuse of "scientific method". Post #12, by triple G, the man some evo's here, love to hate.

[i swear i didn't notice who the poster of 12 was until i had already decided to post a link, and point to that comment in particular]

I think I can get away with mentioning him without pinging. He'll be around to this thread shortly, I reckon...

7 posted on 10/21/2009 10:34:30 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: bogusname

Back to the drawing board.


8 posted on 10/21/2009 10:36:25 PM PDT by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Erase Socialism)
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To: BlueDragon; Bernard Marx
woops. missed properly adding the link; Obama takes a shot at guns
9 posted on 10/21/2009 10:42:58 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: 353FMG

Can’t we just accept Genesis?


10 posted on 10/21/2009 10:44:06 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

Only cranks would have believed in something like this. Probably why that nutbag from Little Green Footballs was slobbering about it.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 10:46:40 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: bogusname

If you like. Which interpretation of Genesis would you like to accept?


12 posted on 10/21/2009 11:37:25 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield

Relax, your god Darwin will provide for all of your needs and answer all of your questions.


13 posted on 10/21/2009 11:42:06 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

I know your trying to bait him, but it’s not worth it. If you don’t like these threads don’t participate.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 11:50:09 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

Oh? Are you against free speech when it’s not in your favor?


15 posted on 10/21/2009 11:52:55 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

See I successfully redirected your attention.


16 posted on 10/21/2009 11:54:49 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

Wow, that sounds like an Obama tactic. Did you hate Fox too?


17 posted on 10/21/2009 11:56:09 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

Why would I hate Fox? this is FreeRepublic, not the new republic.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 11:58:05 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

Yes, it is at the moment.


19 posted on 10/21/2009 11:59:40 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

I agree with your tag line. =-)


20 posted on 10/22/2009 12:02:16 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

lol cool


21 posted on 10/22/2009 12:03:31 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
Ah...What a difference a few months makes! Poor Ida went from human ancestor to just an old critter. But Ida would make a good house pet for Ardi.
Now that the Ardi lemon has been squeezed almost dry it's time for something else to crawl out of the boneyard. Or rockpile or something.
22 posted on 10/22/2009 12:13:11 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

LOL...Yeah, they’ll dig up some other dead monkey at about the time their grant money starts running out.


23 posted on 10/22/2009 12:17:09 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

It seems like you can hardly toss a stone anymore without hitting a “missing link” and yet it is still missing!

I don’t know why people who subscribe to this stuff bother to waste so much of their time on a “missing link” - it is not like they needed a “missing link” to begin with.


24 posted on 10/22/2009 12:24:03 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: bogusname

I was merely pointing out that if you want to “just accept” the book of Genesis, you still have to interpret it. And even from a “literalist” point of view, there are multiple ways the book can be interpreted.

From what I’ve read, “yohm” (taken “literally”) can mean a twelve hour period of time, a twenty-four hour period of time, or a long, indefinite period of time.

Aside from that, it’s also generally not possible to correctly understand the meaning of the Bible unless you understand the context in which a passage was written and then ask the question of what it means in your context. This is one of the most fundamental and widely-accepted principles of understanding the Bible.

Now, what kind words were you saying about my faith?


25 posted on 10/22/2009 12:26:06 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: bogusname

Look no further. The “missing link” is in the white house.


26 posted on 10/22/2009 12:27:14 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I think it all has to do with the fact that they would feel alot safer in their denial of Genesis if they could just find some substantial proof.


27 posted on 10/22/2009 12:29:03 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: taxesareforever

LOL, I know you meant Barack but my thoughts went straight to Michelle.


28 posted on 10/22/2009 12:30:29 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
Well it seems to me that the criticism of being open or closed minded about this is opposite of what the missing link people make it out to be,

As a Roman Catholic I am taught that even if there is a missing link that does not prove there is no God. So that to me seems pretty open minded.

Yet the evolution people *must* find a missing link and never give a moment to any alternative.

I guess looking for their missing link keeps them plenty busy and we should be thankful for that - lol!

29 posted on 10/22/2009 12:36:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

LOL, yes for that we should be thankful.


30 posted on 10/22/2009 12:39:00 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: john in springfield

Sorry I missed your reply. I had made so many comments in different places that yours was so far down on my ping list that I missed it. I see what you’re saying John. I’ve been hit with the “which interpretation” so many times by evolutionists that I went into autopilot mode and snapped back a response without much thought. My Bad. I apologize.


31 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:22 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: pissant

The belief in evolution is as set in as they are currently trying for the belief in global warming to be. Same mechanisms. Whatever cover ups, frauds and lies that are necessary, the educational system will try to make sure that they happen. As long as they do it consistently, pervasively and long enough it becomes entrenched and must be true, right?


32 posted on 10/22/2009 1:12:11 AM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: bogusname

You’re a better person than many.


33 posted on 10/22/2009 1:56:59 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: BlueDragon
woops. missed properly adding the link; Obama takes a shot at guns

Now that's odd. Just last night GGG whined when someone brought up his HIV-AIDS denial nuttery on a non AIDS thread. And yet, it appears he has no problem doing it himself when it suits his needs.
34 posted on 10/22/2009 5:41:05 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: bogusname
I think you'll find many of the "claims" made about Ida were made in the media.....but I like this guy:

Jorn Hurum of the Natural History Museum in Oslo, Norway, an author of the Ida paper, said he welcomed the new analysis.

Darwinius is an example of a group of primates called adapoids, and "we are happy to start the scientific discussion" about what Ida means for where adapoids fit on the primate family tree....

35 posted on 10/22/2009 8:53:18 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thought you might be interested in this.


36 posted on 10/22/2009 10:42:20 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Captain Beyond

I will ping it to the list later this evening...I have already reached my max. for this morning. Thanks for the heads up!


37 posted on 10/22/2009 10:47:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: john in springfield
Let us not forget the true translation "In a beginning" - which implies "many"
38 posted on 10/22/2009 11:03:04 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: bogusname

Oh my, a scientific hypothesis did not stand up to peer review!

The evidence did not support the hypothesis so it was falsified, Folks this is how science works


39 posted on 10/22/2009 11:21:56 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, There’s a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: xcamel

Interesting. I hadn’t been aware of that translation.


40 posted on 10/22/2009 6:02:04 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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