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Obama takes a shot at guns
Washington Times ^ | October 22, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:45:31 PM PDT by JohnRLott

For a decade, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been forbidden by Congress from doing research on gun-control issues. Such piddling hurdles as federal law don't matter to the Obama administration.

With a wave of a hand, the CDC has simply redefined gun-control research so the ban no longer applies. They're not researching guns; they're researching alcohol sales and their impact on gun violence, or researching how teens carrying guns affect the rates of non-gun injuries. "These particular grants do not address gun control; rather they deal with the surrounding web of circumstances," wrote National Institutes of Health (NIH) spokesman Don Ralbovsky.

Gun-control advocates claim that banning the CDC from examining gun control amounts to a gag order on science. After all, what can be wrong with further scientific inquiry? But the issue isn't about scientific inquiry. It is whether government resources should be used to promote an ideological agenda. . . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; cdc; democrats; guncontrol; guns; obama; rtkba; shallnotbeinfringed; washingtontimes
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1 posted on 10/21/2009 9:45:31 PM PDT by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott

First open gun grab will be the 2nd shot heard around the world.

Obozo had better beware. Actions have consequences.

And probably not the consequences he may think about.


2 posted on 10/21/2009 9:52:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: JohnRLott

Read later.


3 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: JohnRLott; neverdem

I guess this answers that article about gunowners thinking this admin might take a shot at guns


4 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: JohnRLott

John R Lott

That names sounds vaguely familiar =o)


5 posted on 10/21/2009 9:54:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Texas Fossil

someone once said it take alot to get us mad but once mad we have a temper that takes action just ask Japan and Nazi Germany.


6 posted on 10/21/2009 9:56:09 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: JohnRLott
BLOAT!!
7 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: JohnRLott

did you see this great article?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2368066/posts


8 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:12 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Texas Fossil

Will the CDC do a study on the health hazards of gun confiscation?


9 posted on 10/21/2009 9:58:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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To: JohnRLott
"Gun-control advocates claim that banning the CDC from examining gun control amounts to a gag order on science.

They would be the same poltroons who put a gag order on anyone who disputes their claim that climate change is man made.

10 posted on 10/21/2009 10:00:56 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: TigersEye

That study might give them some interesting results.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 10:03:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: JohnRLott; GODAWGS47; japaneseghost; Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; John Valentine; ...

To the Rethinking AIDS/Rethinking Public Health Ping List.

This was an interview on the CDC and the phony “War on AIDS” that veered into the CDC and gun control. See my profile page for more:

RETHINKING: There is so much more of this on the tapes and in your book. But you told me recently that the CDC is trying to define violence and gun-related crimes as clusters of epidemic disease.

ELLISON: That’s right. Violence of course they are not calling an infectious disease, but they are trying to treat it as a disease with perhaps some kind of environmental cause. They think they can cure violence by two measures primarily. One is gun control; they think if you get rid of the guns, then the gangs of course will stop purchasing their automatic weapons through the underground. And second, that if you fund the gangs and their organizations, their front groups, that are creating riots and violence, that you will then induce them to become peaceful.

RETHINKING: Where did you get that from?

ELLISON: This is from articles published by CDC officers themselves, who are not outlining their strategy for, quote, “how to stop the epidemic of violence.” They believe that because it’s an epidemic or disease that it shouldn’t be punished. You shouldn’t fill up the jails with these people, or death row. Rather you should give them money and take everyone else’s guns.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/raellison.htm


12 posted on 10/21/2009 10:04:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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“they’re researching alcohol sales and their impact on gun violence”

I’ve always said that the BATF was in charge of a weird combination of items.

First it was demonizing guns, then tobacco and now alcohol.

Will the limo libs rise up in rage when their Dom Perignon is taken from their cold, drunk hands?


13 posted on 10/21/2009 10:05:14 PM PDT by Salamander ("Welcome to my nightmare.....I think you're gonna like it")
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To: JohnRLott

They’ll have reached their conclusions before their “research” and make the data support their “findings”.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 10:07:31 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Roger Dat!!!...


15 posted on 10/21/2009 10:13:09 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Salamander
"Will the limo libs rise up in rage when their Dom Perignon is taken from their cold, drunk hands?"

As long as they have enough suckers on the hook they don't belive they will lose any of that.

16 posted on 10/21/2009 10:13:54 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I predict that they would find high mortality rates. Few survivors.


17 posted on 10/21/2009 10:15:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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PS May I suggest reading the entire link to see how the CDC secretly funds radical front groups and manufactures phony epidemics, such as the “epidemic of violence.”

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/raellison.htm

Again, see my profile page for more. See especially, the Hidden Agenda Behind HIV.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 10:17:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The fact that the CDC believes that puts me at a loss for words.


19 posted on 10/21/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (I want my country back.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
And second, that if you fund the gangs and their organizations, their front groups, that are creating riots and violence, that you will then induce them to become peaceful.

That is so far beyond 'stupid' it is really hard to quantify.

20 posted on 10/21/2009 10:28:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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