Posted on 10/22/2009 7:34:31 AM PDT by kronos77
I heard from a guy who read an article in The National Inquirer that there was a piece in The Star that quoted a column in People about a guy who had a cousin whose sister-in-law had a grilled cheese sammich (NEA authorized spelling) with John Calvin's face on it.
And you can quote me!
This doctrine represents the (true) “tragic” vision of man (per Sowell).
The “locus of discretion”, where decisions are made, should be located closest to the point of the information required to make those decisions.
Conservatives believe the information is most available at the local and individual level,
elitists believe that a centralized elite authority has the necessary information (and better wisdom, intellect and morality) to make the decisions.
It all comes back to Satan’s lie about the nature of man.
I love those who appear on Catholic threads when it is written that the Pope supports a One World government, Marxism as does the church and say that it’s what it means or doen’t believe what you read.
The leaders of the Catholic Church support One World Government and Nationalized Healthcare.
1) This article is not a "Vatican endorsement" of Marx. It is the opinion of one professor at the Gregorian University (a Jesuit - insert obligatory Jesuit joke here).
2) The Pontifical Gregorian University is an excellent university, and has many good and faithful professors... but there are still some that are a little... for want of any better word, off. Some more than others.
3) The someone in the Vatican Secretariat of State forwarded this on to L'Osservatore Romano (someone who apparently thinks that the Church promoting any part of the philosophy that it has condemned for more than a century and still does is an alright idea).
I've heard rumor that there is some tension within the Curia that includes the Secretariat of State...
My opinion: Somebody in the SoS just stuck it to the Vatican.
So you think the Vatican has control of any government but their own?
Seriously?
If anyone reads “Charity in Truth” they will see that it’s not about government control but individual Charity.
No matter how the MSM wants to spin it.
Can you please give me the quote, directly from this encyclical that tells any government to implement what is proposed there?
Georg Sans, SJ
He's either a Jesuit brother or priest. I just checked.
Oh, I fully agree that charity is an individual mandate,
but do the liberal priests believe this? Or do they believe that charity is best done through the State?
The vatican and priests can influence their members to vote in a certain way, can influence their worldview, and, indirectly, control the government of democracies.
Settle down and try writing that sentence again.
The "same": Some Catholics 'church shop'. (Some, not all. My famdamily went to the same parish for maybe a decade because it was the one we were closest to, and for no other reason. As soon as I had a good pastoral duty to move to my current parish I did, but not before.)
The "other": I would venture that Catholics who "church shop" go from one Catholic parish to another, not from one denomination to another, and if there were no other Catholic parish they'd stay where they were and either mutter in their beards or make life miserable for the pastor.
BECAUSE the pastor is not the "show." Jesus is the show. The pastor is no more than either an enhancement or a nuisance.
And I KNOW this because I read a review of a TV show which had a discussion about radio talk show where one of the guys interviewed said he found some stone carvings in The Anasazi site which mentioned that some Catholics move from parish to parish. So it MUST be true.
Thanks for this post and the refernece to the enyclical..
There is also an encyclical “Atheistic Communism” (delivered in 1937) which is an excellent source for understanding the Church’s position on communism.
It’s also prophetic in that it cautions about the rise of the feminist movement, the break-up of families, and the power of the Fourth Estate.
All encyclicals are intended to teach—and are a part of the magisterium.
The same can’t be said of news articles.
That sister in law was ME!!!! And I fed it to the dog!
Thanks for checking it out.
My bad for stating categorically that he couldn’t be: it’s much more likely that he is either a brother or even a priest, but without the cure of souls.
In any case I shouldn’t have presumed to hang a dog on this 5th party evidence of what he’s supposed to have said.
And we KNOW this to be true because
we read a graffito in a bathroom stall
which quoted a "tag" on the side of an abandoned building in the Bronx
which referred to a sermon preached in a new age synagogue
which mentioned what a Dominican dying of alcohol poisoning said with his last breath.
So it's true. We don't actually have to read the documents or think or pray about them. We have all the information we need to confirm our previously drawn conclusions.
>>The vatican and priests can influence their members to vote in a certain way, can influence their worldview, and, indirectly, control the government of democracies.<<
I agree, they can. But do they?
Maybe, maybe not. I think a lot of people got stung in the last election. Jews and Catholics.
Catholics read this the way it was written, as a mandate for me and Pete in the Pew. Others may read it a different way but Catholics look at Catholic instruction as for Catholics.
For some reason, non-Catholics look at it as an attempt to instruct non-Catholics and are appalled. Non-Catholics don’t listen to the Pope in other things and are indignant about someone telling them they should (righteously so in my opinion). It’s only when the mainstream media spins the words that the non-Catholics get upset.
If we don’t trust the MSM to bring us the words of Rush, why do we trust them to bring us the words of the Pope?
Darn! You coulda made a PILE of money on E-bay!
In the 30’s we had thousands standing in bread lines and hunting work, but in the 60’s, 70’s and now we have thousands unemployed who don’t have to be, thousands sleeping under bridges an in the streets who don’t have to, who modified the standards? Dope pushers, professors, politicans you name it.
And no other church or religious group does that? No other group in general does that?
Also, look at how well that has worked out in the democracies of historically Catholic countries...
Wrong tense. I'd go with the extreme southern conditional tense, e.g.: "maybe might could."
Judging by the bumper stickers in our parish parking lot I'd conclude that the well known conservative tendencies of our clergy team had absolutely ZIP to do with how people voted. Maybe somewhere clergy CAN, but I think people misunderestimate the orneriness of the average Catholic perishioner.
Actually the Pope put out a document about 2-3 months ago in support of a one world government and redistribtion of wealth.
And recently many US Bishops supported the HC bill if it removed abortion.
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