Skip to comments.Boeing, union deadlocked in secret talks over new 787 line
Posted on 10/22/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by jazusamo
Boeing and the Machinists union are far apart in secret negotiations over a proposed no-strike agreement that would ensure a second 787 final assembly line goes to Everett instead of Charleston, S.C.
Secret talks have been going on for weeks in Washington, D.C., and Chicago between Boeing and the Machinists union, with top leaders negotiating over a proposed no-strike agreement that would ensure a second 787 final-assembly line goes to Everett instead of Charleston, S.C.
But less than a week ahead of a Boeing board meeting to discuss the choice, the labor talks are deadlocked and hindered by distrust on each side, according to a high-level person close to the negotiations.
Boeing CEO Jim McNerney said in a conference call Wednesday morning that the decision will be announced within two weeks.
In the previously unreported talks, International Association of Machinists (IAM) leaders said they were prepared to agree to a no-strike deal through 2020, provided a list of conditions was met.
One important condition, the person close to the talks said, is that Boeing would guarantee future work on new jets will come to the Puget Sound-area factories.
"The 737 replacement is the big prize right now," he said, but Boeing is refusing to guarantee any work beyond the second 787 assembly line.
The IAM has not told its members anything about the discussions. Its international president, Tom Buffenbarger, is driving the talks for the union, the person close to the negotiations said.
Buffenbarger did not return a call requesting comment. Boeing spokesman Tim Healy acknowledged talks are going on but said they are "confidential discussions, and we will honor a mutual agreement to keep them that way."
In his Wednesday conference call with analysts, McNerney made clear that Boeing is considering Charleston specifically because of the recent history...
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Quite a change for the union from a few months ago.
Must not be so secret if the Seattle Times is writing front page articles on it.
Sure not secret any longer but they’ve keep a pretty tight lid on it up to now.
As a retired union guy and former local president all I can advise Boeing to do is head to South Carolina.
When I was in office I represented union members not a political party of limousine liberal/socialists/communists.
What is the latest on when the Dreamliner does its test flight?
Well, I think all the Boeing employees knew about it. At least my brother in law did.
Hey Seattle, say goodbye to Boeing.
No kiddin. The Carolinas were calling.
I don’t know, they’ve had a lot of setbacks and I haven’t paid attention of late.
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That may be but there’s some info in this piece that hasn’t been public info up to now, at least I haven’t seen it and I’ve followed it.
The union was laughing at Boeing for proposing a no strike clause and now they say they’ll agree to it with conditions.
Nows the time. Break the union.
The Boeing workers can then go get nice soft union jobs
Now A380 are operating on 3 airlines and 787 is still in the barn.
Boeling says the 787 will fly by the end of this year. But given there track record with the 787 I would not bet on it.
There’s much to be said for that and that’s why I believe Boeing is going to set the second line up in SC.
Exactly, and they’d better get it straightened out or there won’t be a second line.
Boeing has seen the future in Detroit and decided to chart a different course. They got their headquarters out of Seattle. They’ve set up operations in the non-union South. They are prepared to ditch the unions altogether. That’s just what they should do. Unions bring nothing but ruin.