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Obama Was Not Born in U.S., Republicans Say
Angus Reid ^ | 10/22/09 | staff

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:46:04 PM PDT by pissant

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Three-in-ten Americans think their current head of state was not born in the United States, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 70 per cent of respondents believe Barack Obama was born in the U.S., while 30 per cent do not.

While only 13 per cent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 per cent among Independents and 51 per cent among Republican Party backers.

In American elections, candidates require 270 votes in the Electoral College to win the White House. In November 2008, Democratic nominee Obama secured a majority of electoral votes, defeating Republican candidate John McCain. In January, Obama became the first African American president in U.S. history.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution establishes that only "natural born" American citizens are eligible to become presidents.

Last year, the Obama campaign team released a Certification of Live Birth, which states that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961. The State of Hawaii only allows for the release of an original birth certificate under "extenuating circumstances."

Earlier this month, former House majority leader Tom Delay discussed his views on Obama’s birth, saying, "Why wouldn’t the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate? You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball. It’s a question that should be answered. It’s in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen of the United States to be president."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kenyabelieveit; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; polls
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They should ask the question:

Do you believe Obama to be a marxist quisling?

1 posted on 10/22/2009 12:46:05 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

“Do you believe Obama to be a marxist quisling? “

Yes, Absolutely! Let’s get a poll started someplace.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 12:48:44 PM PDT by fujimoh
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To: pissant
Make that African president there is NO American Anything there.
3 posted on 10/22/2009 12:49:07 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: pissant

Not born in the US and not the son of a U.S. father.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 12:49:41 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: pissant

These poll results are truly remarkable. Barry cannot keep his past from being revealed. It’s just a question of how and when.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 12:49:41 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: pissant

He said his father was a Kenyan. That in itself disqualifies him!!!


6 posted on 10/22/2009 12:50:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

It seems the libs and Obama wing of the GOP (and FR) has not convinced conservatives that the boy marxist is an American.


7 posted on 10/22/2009 12:51:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

And these are not “extenuating circumstances”???


8 posted on 10/22/2009 12:51:38 PM PDT by SandWMan ( I'm still trying to find the section in the Constitution that mentions "nation building".......)
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To: pissant
In January, Obama became the first African American president in U.S. history.

It would be more correct to say "In January, Obama became the first African president of the U.S."

9 posted on 10/22/2009 12:53:46 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: pissant

Strange that a third of the country believes Obama is not a natural born citizen, yet Obama refuses to simply show his Birth Certificate to prove he is.

Also strange that a third of the country believes that the President is illegitimate by not being a natural born citizen, yet the media is afraid to look into that story..


10 posted on 10/22/2009 12:55:35 PM PDT by outlawjake
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To: pissant

Any poll that doesn’t have an option for “I don’t know whether he was born in the US” is not an honest poll, because an obvious answer for an intelligent person is that there is not enough public information on which to base a belief.

In an honest poll I would bet that the combined percentage of “I believe he was not born in the US” and “I don’t know whether he was born in the US” would be quite high.

The liberals do not want to offer that alternative answer, because it would place pressure on Obama to release more documents about himself.


11 posted on 10/22/2009 12:57:14 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: pissant

latest is that the address on his Selective Service registration card is an upscale condo in Oahu (one that the child of a single mother who was an erstwhile grad student could likely not afford). Heard anything on that?


12 posted on 10/22/2009 12:59:38 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; STARWISE; Lumper20; ...
PING!!
13 posted on 10/22/2009 1:00:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: pissant

If Obama had been born in the US; he would have produced a bc right off the bat. He did not and has spent millions of dollars covering up. Why should we believe he was born in the US? He hasn’t produced one piece of credible evidence.


14 posted on 10/22/2009 1:00:55 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

We’ll get to the truth, if we have to rip the documents out of his cold, marxist fingers.


15 posted on 10/22/2009 1:01:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Do you believe Obama to be a marxist quisling?

Actually, I believe he is a Muslim Marxist quisling.

16 posted on 10/22/2009 1:04:04 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

Thanks for clarifying.


17 posted on 10/22/2009 1:04:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: exit82

He’s a sleeper cell.


18 posted on 10/22/2009 1:05:07 PM PDT by angcat ("GO YANKEES")
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To: pissant

So where was this question a year ago?


19 posted on 10/22/2009 1:05:15 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: pissant

I bet the majority of Kenyan citizens and their Kenyan parliament members think that Obama was born in Kenya.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 1:05:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: exit82
Do you believe Obama to be a Marxist quisling?

Actually, I believe he is a Muslim Marxist quisling.

Well I believe he is a a Muslim Marxist Quisling Dictator

21 posted on 10/22/2009 1:06:30 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: pissant

No, I don’t think he is a “marxist quisling”. He is a quisling, and he is a marxist.

But :marxist” is not a modifier for “quisling” - they are freestanding faults in his panoply of faults.


22 posted on 10/22/2009 1:06:56 PM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: pissant

Chris Mathews MSNBC reports this every day. says “So republicans should not even be listened to because it’s just hate”. He says it’s the racist South too that believes this. I am amazed that the Birth-certificaters (the real ones that are not MSNBC trolls) couldnt see this coming. What a loser of an issue!


23 posted on 10/22/2009 1:07:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But, but, but.....how can this be. The FR kneepadders keep telling us that those fringe birthers are hurting the GOP. Yet most Republicans are smart enough to know Obama is a fraud. And on top of that, he’s continuing to get sink in the polls.


24 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: MortMan

If we keep adding descriptors, this thread can become a classic.


25 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:51 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: SMARTY
Not born in the US and not the son of a U.S. father.

and a marxist

26 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:53 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: pissant

I don’t know where Obama was born, but I do know that he is Un-American.


27 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:56 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: jimrob

an LOL PING


28 posted on 10/22/2009 1:10:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Fishiness? flag57@kgb.in.da.white.house.com

29 posted on 10/22/2009 1:12:19 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: pissant

This poll may explain why Obama had a little kid ask him if he was born in Hawaii. They got a tip about this poll being released.


30 posted on 10/22/2009 1:12:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Oooooohhhhhh. I’ll bet you anything he got a head’s up about this poll coming out. I like you’re thinking. That Q&A was so frickin obviously a setup.


31 posted on 10/22/2009 1:14:37 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Fox is a real news organization, and Obama is not a real president


32 posted on 10/22/2009 1:15:13 PM PDT by onehitfrag
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To: Don Corleone; pissant
"He said his father was a Kenyan. That in itself disqualifies him!!!"

In addition, on his very own campaign web site, they admitted that his "birth status was governed by Great Britain."

So, how in the world, could a dual national be considered a Natural Born Citizen? They can't.

33 posted on 10/22/2009 1:16:18 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Look into the property tax rolls of Hawaii and see if the condo development came later than the time he is said to have lived there.

Until then, your info is without substance.


34 posted on 10/22/2009 1:16:44 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: rxsid

Just gotta get that argument to be heard by the courts. So far, not so good.


35 posted on 10/22/2009 1:17:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Since Biden and Pelosi were complicit in this fraud, who will take Dear Leader’s place?


36 posted on 10/22/2009 1:17:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: pissant
Do you believe Obama to be a marxist quisling?

Obama is a marxist, muslim, quisling Kenyan.

Absolutely! LoL!

37 posted on 10/22/2009 1:18:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Byrd.


38 posted on 10/22/2009 1:18:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
In his 2004 debate with Keyes, Keyes reportedly said: “You are not even a Natural born citizen” to which Obama replied:” That’s o’k, I am not running for President, I am only running for Senate”
This is the first I've heard of this and it seems the tape of same has "gone missing".
That Obama hasn't offered a copy of his birth certificate in court would seem to indicate there is something on that document that he doesnt want revealed.
Since he said he wants total transparency but refuses to reveal this document, it would seem he's lying.
39 posted on 10/22/2009 1:19:38 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I had to register with Selective Service AFTER I had served two enlistments in the US Army, so he damn well better have registered!!
40 posted on 10/22/2009 1:21:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Fresh Wind

More editing required:

“In January, Obama became the first African to usurp the office of the President of the U.S.”


41 posted on 10/22/2009 1:21:42 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: wilco200

What I’d like to know his just how do Black Americans relate to him?

He is not a decendent of Slaves.

He has no Black American heritage or culture.

He spent most of his childhood overseas. And in an apartment in Hawaii.

He was raised by typical white people.

After high school, muslim money sent to him Ivy Leage colleges.

The only thing I can see that BO has in common with other blacks is that he was abandoned by his father.

And yet.... Blacks identify with him.


42 posted on 10/22/2009 1:22:22 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: pissant

Senator Byrd has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, which makes it Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


43 posted on 10/22/2009 1:26:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL. If she helps us get rid of Ears, she can have the rest of his term.


44 posted on 10/22/2009 1:27:36 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I recognize that the MSM is in the bag for Obambi, but I am amazed that there isn't a rogue out there that wants to get the credit for breaking the biggest news story in the history of the Republic. I still believe the truth will out. The only question is will it be too late to stop the damage?
45 posted on 10/22/2009 1:28:47 PM PDT by burghguy
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To: pissant

Between innings at the All-Star game, he was chatting with Joe Buck and Tim McCarver, and said he “was raised in Hawaii”, but nothing about being born there. I found that a bit odd.


46 posted on 10/22/2009 1:30:01 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: burghguy

This thread is in violation of the Net Neutrality Laws, please comply ... The next 44 posts must come from MoveOn.Org


47 posted on 10/22/2009 1:30:27 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

LOL. We are going to shove Net Neutrality right back up Obama’s ass.


48 posted on 10/22/2009 1:31:27 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Those questions are intimately related. The “natural born” requirement was not just a technicality. There was a reason for it. The reason is that if someone is born in another country of parents not citizens steeped in our traditions, it is unlikely that person will have absorbed the instincts for our concept of government and our loyalties.

That is exactly what has happened with Obama. It shows the insights and wisdom of our founding fathers.

Not long ago, on FR, an English person pointed out that the Kenyans hated the English colonials and overthrew them with the help of Marxists. They pointed out that Obama shows all the hatred of the English and the affinity for Marxism that is typical of educated post-colonial Kenyans.

Kenyans of the colonial era also would smile to deceive their overlords, not revealing their hatred of their white overlords. Obama is doing the same thing. He smiles so everyone will not catch on that he hates the whites and he hates our traditions. And he hates America being what he regards as the overlords of the world.

49 posted on 10/22/2009 1:31:39 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to the After-Birthers, we make FR look bad by bringing Obama’s birth place and citizenship into question. There’s a whole lot of us. LoL!


50 posted on 10/22/2009 1:32:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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