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111th United States Congress: Ideology Trumps Economist
Alias Son House | October 22, 2009 | Alias Son House

Posted on 10/22/2009 5:04:08 PM PDT by Son House

On Wednesday, Pelosi had a forum with top House Democrats and a team of economists:

Former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Alan Blinder, October 21, 2009

'Absolutely horrendous long term fiscal out look'


This is a graph presented by Jared Bernstein, chief economist to Vice President Joe Biden.

Do you see any current recovery?
There are not going to be Job increases for a long time, look at that curve in the graph
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Yet, Pelosi says the recession is coming to an end;

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102209/content/01125107.guest.html

PELOSI: It's no accident that right now that as the recession's coming to an end it does so where the recovery package is weighing in at its biggest impact in this third quarter, quarter of '09.


After the Economic Forum in the Capitol on Wednesday October 21, the Economist Alan Blinder give a debriefing, video can be seen at link here, don't look for it in our state run media, but it is very telling about that meeting;

http://www.watoday.com.au/business/markets/us-stocks-see-late-selloff-as-bank-optimism-fades-20091022-h99b.html
Some quick points of that video;
Former Federal Reserve vice chairman Alan Blinder says GDP is growing but jobs are ‘still shrinking’.

Greater fiscal responsibility
Limiting what could be a worse economic out come
Persuade people things are getting better
Absolutely horrendous long term fiscal out look
Modest increase in the deficit targeted very strongly on Job creation
Mindful of long run deficit problem
Long run commitment to greater fiscal responsibility while still trying to alleviate the Jobs Problem


They had discussed "Modest increase in the deficit targeted very strongly on Job creation", which is speak for some kind of a tax credit or tax cut

The 111th United States Congress knows up front their Stimulus bill falls far short of any Job creation in the private sector, they've been told what works, we know from this graph across the board tax cuts like in the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 actually worked to improve growth in the private sector;

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Yet,at best from this Congress we will see some targeted tax credits for small business.

Most small business do their taxes as an individual
Big and medium business are great sources of income for small business and private sector Jobs

It going to be winter soon enough,
I do not want to see people out in the cold because the 111th United States Congress does too little, too late, because they are blinded by their ideology.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; alanblinder; blinder; congress; economist; economy; ideology; kuttner; pelosi; robertkuttner; trumps
This 111th United State Congress needs to be pressured to do the right thing, lower tax rates and quit spending money they don't have. That what any economist would tell them. The President can be made irrelevant by a Veto over-ride if he doesn't agree with common sense budgeting.
1 posted on 10/22/2009 5:04:09 PM PDT by Son House
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Image and video hosting by TinyPic "What? You don't think I'll throw *that* b!+¢h under the bus at the earliest possible opportunity?"

2 posted on 10/22/2009 6:22:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and
Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum
http://www.realestaterama.com/2009/10/22/transcript-of-pelosi-house-democratic-leaders-and-economists%E2%80%99-press-conference-following-economic-forum-ID06137.html

Former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Alan Blinder
"despite the fact that we’re looking at an absolutely horrendous long-term fiscal outlook,""

^
Pelosi has been schooled, this guy was their own Democrat Economist: Federal Reserve Board vice chairman under President Clinton; advised Gore and Kerry presidential campaigns.

3 posted on 10/22/2009 6:48:20 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House
From that transcript;

Heather Boushey.
One of the key problems facing the country right now is the massive unemployment and not only are so many folks unemployed but so many folks who have lost their jobs are unable to get back in the workforce.

So a couple of the key themes that there was a lot of consensus on was extending unemployment insurance, making sure benefits don’t run out at the end of the year, and also making sure that those folks who are unemployed have access to health care.

A couple of other things, thinking about the long-term unemployed and folks who just can’t get jobs right now, need to do more about job training, start thinking about public service.

^
Unable to get back in the work force?
Everyone has access to healthcare, including the emergency room.
Think about Public Service?
4 posted on 10/22/2009 7:03:16 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House

Thanks SH.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 7:16:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yikes! Transcript!

Robert Kuttner
Last comment: you need to think about reduction of debt relative to the GDP as a 10-year project and in order to get the economy back on track, we may well need, we do need, more deficit spending now and in the next year but with a pre commitment to deficit reduction over 10 years through progressive taxation,
one of the things we seem to agree on is a financial transactions tax, taxes aimed at the people who are still making out in this crisis so that the benefit can go to ordinary people and we don’t have to sacrifice the recovery on the long term/short term deficit reduction.

6 posted on 10/22/2009 7:17:28 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House
a pre commitment to deficit reduction over 10 years through progressive taxation
We need deficit reduction via A) cutting spending and B) ridding ourselves of the raise-taxes crowd.
7 posted on 10/22/2009 7:27:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
And I'll pass that Glory to where it belongs, another Transcript excerpt;

Robert Kuttner
I think just about everyone in the room feels there needs to be more stimulus, and not after the State of the Union Address, but very soon because otherwise, you end up with a jobless recovery for years to come.

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So immediate tax relief is out of the question? It's going to be an IRS nightmare to do your taxes after the 111th Congress legislates
8 posted on 10/22/2009 7:27:30 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep, Congress had a lot to work with and squanders it all, I can’t wait till the next town hall meetings, I’d guess by then 25% Under and Unemployed can show up without taking time off of work


9 posted on 10/22/2009 7:32:43 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House

Apparently Robert Kuttner does the hard drugs.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 7:34:38 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Son House

Found another link to that Former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Alan Blinder Video;

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=113456&newsChannel=newsOne

Oct. 21 - Princeton economist and former Federal Reserve vice chairman Alan Blinder said the GDP is growing, but jobs are “still shrinking and are likely to shrink for a while yet.”

Speaking to reporters after participating in an economic forum with lawmakers at the U.S. Capitol, Blinder said that

“despite the fact that we are looking at an absolutely horrendous long-term fiscal outlook,” he advocates at least a modest increase in the deficit, targeted on the creation of jobs.

^
Persuade Detroit things are getting better, buddy...


11 posted on 10/22/2009 7:42:25 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: Son House
I got news for this clown. Ordinary people do a lot of stock trading, not just big wall street firms.

This tax on financial transactions is another really bad idea from organized labor. This tax would be a major cost increase for active trading firms and active individual traders, who are a big revenue source for brokerage firms. So active trading volume would decline substantially, causing greater price volatility and reducing the revenues of brokerage firms. Brokers would then have to spread their fixed overhead costs over a smaller revenue base and would be forced to raise commissions for all clients, big and small. So trading costs for individuals, mutual funds, and pension funds would increase by at least 50%, including the tax. That’s how most of the tax would be paid, by higher trading costs and lower return on investment by high-income individuals, mutual funds, pension funds, and other institutional investors.

This is a classic income redistribution scheme by labor to extract taxes from higher income people and redistribute them to lower income people through federal entitlement programs. That’s the primary goal of organized labor today: thinly disguised socialist income redistribution.

12 posted on 10/22/2009 8:55:26 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The first thing this administration should do to increase employment is to 1) review the latest research on global warming, 2) figure out that global warming is a complete hoax, and then 3) permanently drop the outrageous radical cap and tax plan passed by the House, which is causing a lot of uncertainty in the business community about future operating costs. That would be a good way to start, by dropping cap-and-tax, boycotting the ridiculous Copenhagen climate conference, and eliminating a lot of uncertainty about future operating costs. When business people don’t know what their future operating costs will be, they can’t plan for the future and develop a headcount budget. That means they don’t hire people in an environment of great uncertainty about energy costs and taxes.


13 posted on 10/22/2009 9:08:36 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: SunkenCiv

SC, it’s really starting to look like the BHO administration knows less about business and economics than any administration since Carter. Pelosi & Reid are also clueless about what generates economic growth and employment growth.


14 posted on 10/22/2009 9:11:03 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: your local physicist

It’s looked that way from the start of Obama’s campaign. :’)


15 posted on 10/23/2009 5:48:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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