Posted on 10/23/2009 4:53:30 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
Many a person has missed their stop on a bus or train at one time or another because they were engrossed in a weighty conversation or a book.
But when the pilots of Northwest Airlines flight 188 became distracted it had more serious consequences as they overflew their Minneapolis destination by 150 miles.
"They were in a heated discussion over airline policy and they lost situational awareness," the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) explained.
When the pilots got their "situational awareness" back they turned the Airbus A320 around and landed it safely on Wednesday evening, apparently without any of the 144 passengers realising they had taken a roundabout route.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
If they were that distracted, maybe they'd be better off in a job that allows for total loss of awareness, like lawn jockey (if that't racist, then roaming gnome).
You might be on something. Are u in MBS?
Hey, way to Go, nAvY!
“”They were in a heated discussion over airline policy and they lost situational awareness,”
Whoever can utter BS like that; has a great future making infomercials.
They were sleeping.
I guess the scrambling Canadian fighter planes gave them their first clue?
MBS? Obviously if I have to ask what it is I’m not in it.
As a side note:
Aviation ping.
Flight School Bills White House, DNC for Revenue Lost to TFR
October 22, 2009 — Temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) due to the movement of the President of the United States or other high-level officials have become a common disruption to general aviation since 9/11. TFRs essentially halt many general aviation activities, like flight training, but GA businesses affected by the shutdowns haven’t often attempted to collect their lost revenue. When Oakland Flyers, a flight school based at Oakland International Airport, had to cease operations for 17 hours during last week’s visit to the Bay Area by President Obama to attend a fundraiser, owner Jim Gray decided to invoice the White House and the Democratic National Committee, (DNC) which hosted the event, in attempt to collect lost revenue.
“We invoiced lost revenue for the aircraft rental and for the flight instructors which are paid independently,” Gray said. “The flight instructors lost money on this deal as well. They get paid by the students directly. We put together an invoice for both items.”
The invoice totaled $2,565 for 10 canceled flights, which had been scheduled from late afternoon on October 15 until 10 a.m. the next day. Even though the airport’s location is clear across San Francisco Bay from the president’s physical location in downtown San Francisco, it was still inside the 10-mile no-fly ring, meaning all training flights were grounded during the TFR. Gray feels it’s not fair for his business to be shut down for an extended period of time due to a partisan function, as opposed to official government business, which a reason he would more readily accept. He also takes issue with the fact that airline and cargo operations were allowed to continue operations because they operate under instrument flight rules.
Reaction in the GA community has been very supportive according to the numerous e-mails Gray has received from across the country. “There are flight schools that have also been affected by these kinds of things,” Gray said. “Pilots are thinking that these TFRs are punitive to general aviation for really no valid reason. By doing this (sending the invoice), maybe it will raise some attention for everybody to put in their two cents and we’ll see what happens.”
Gray says the DNC did contact the flight school to inquire about the dollar amount of the invoice, but he has not personally spoken to anyone. The DNC did not return calls to EAA.org regarding this story.
I never heard of a handheld GPS with a built-in barometric altimeter.
But they are available, and I’m sure it would come in handy for measuring cabin altitude.
http://www.yenra.com/handheld-gps/
“10 bucks says they were sleeping.”
A pilot being interviewed on Fox and Friends now is alluding to that. It happens. Quite scary.
LOL!!!
Did the passengers get the extra 300 frequent flyer miles?
back when grown men looked male and grown and were funny too
It is amazing to watch the littlest thing totally, I mean totally, become the center of focus to the exclusion of everything else.
Meanwhile, there you are sailing along at Flight O-My-God at the speed-of-heat wondering when the argument will stop!
Negative. I'm not buying that. There would be too many radio calls and navigation cues to miss...if they were awake.
I wouldn’t take that bet. Regardless, they are in deep doo doo.
Airport code for Saginaw MI.
I know I have missed an off ramp or two while trying not to argue with the wife.
Permission to steal this line?
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