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McCain Introduces Bill to Block FCC's Net Neutrality Rules
IDG News Service ^ | Oct 22, 2009 | Grant Gross

Posted on 10/23/2009 5:44:21 AM PDT by opentalk

U.S. Senator John McCain has introduced legislation that would block the U.S. Federal Communications Commission from creating new net neutrality rules, on the same day that the FCC took the first step toward doing so.

McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications. Net neutrality rules would create "onerous federal regulation," McCain said in a written statement.

McCain protested the FCC's proposal that wireless broadband providers be included in the net neutrality rules. The wireless industry has "exploded over the past 20 years due to limited government regulation," McCain said in the statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: fcc; freespeech; internet; netneutrality; obama; regulation

1 posted on 10/23/2009 5:44:21 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Well at least he’s good for something. :-)


2 posted on 10/23/2009 5:45:31 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: opentalk

One of the first things these commie bastards would do is kill this website. Once regulation starts, it just gets bigger.

Go McCain.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 5:48:22 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: opentalk
McCain finally gets one right.

These stupid rules will result in ISPs imposing outright usage caps on customers. We are already seeing this with Comcast. When the net neutrality people complained that Comcast was throttling certain types of traffic, Comcast responded by imposing a 250GB a month cap.

The reason the cap was put in place was because Comcast was not allowed to manage traffic on their own network, so a blanket cap was imposed, thus "managing" all types of traffic.

4 posted on 10/23/2009 5:49:16 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: left that other site

Well he is running for reelection.


5 posted on 10/23/2009 5:50:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: opentalk

On the other hand, Net Neutrality would prevent ISPs from throttling access to websites they didn’t agree with, including political websites like this one. When an upstream provider (your ISP’s provider) slows your access to FR because they don’t agree with it politically, what recourse do you have? There aren’t that many big telecom providers. If they decide that Kos and Huffington Post and their ilk get immediate access, and conservative sites get buried behind 4 full-page flash ads with no “skip” button, then whose message is going to get out?


6 posted on 10/23/2009 5:54:28 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
Once regulation starts, it just gets bigger.

You're right, they are already talking about pay czar limiting salaries of more institutions even though they did not take bail out $.

once they get Internet, it will be on to radio

7 posted on 10/23/2009 5:55:15 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: cripplecreek

Look at the bright side. Dingy Harry will block this bill and that will put another nail in his coffin.


8 posted on 10/23/2009 5:57:02 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

9 posted on 10/23/2009 5:58:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: opentalk

I’ve always said he wasn’t all bad.


10 posted on 10/23/2009 6:02:01 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: opentalk
Desperately grasping for legitimacy!
11 posted on 10/23/2009 6:02:52 AM PDT by parthian shot (The Republicans are on a roll, unfortunately it's downhill)
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To: opentalk

Thank you, Senator McCain.


12 posted on 10/23/2009 6:03:00 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: cripplecreek

Running for reelection? Losing the Presidential bid to the Lyin’ King not good enough for him? LOL.

RINOs OUT!


13 posted on 10/23/2009 6:08:37 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

I haven’t forgotten that McQueeg has his own ideas about what is and isn’t acceptable speech on the net.


14 posted on 10/23/2009 6:12:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: pnh102

What does a 250GB a month translate to in internet usage?
The normal activity noted when we check our internet connection and see bytes sent and received including the bytes exchanged just by being connected? Or the actual uploading and downloading when we do when we buy somthing, upload docs, post to boards, check email etc.


15 posted on 10/23/2009 6:22:44 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: opentalk

I have become so skeptical I think McCain’s bill would probably support net neutrality while pretending not to. He did not have a problem with government control over free speech in the past. Why would he now?


16 posted on 10/23/2009 6:24:37 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: cripplecreek

Yes indeed! And WHENEVER somebody found out something that was damaging about the Lyin’ King during the campaign, WHO was the FIRST one out there DEFENDING him????
Good Grief!


17 posted on 10/23/2009 6:25:24 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Little Pig
When an upstream provider (your ISP’s provider) slows your access to FR because they don’t agree with it politically, what recourse do you have

Establish our own.

18 posted on 10/23/2009 6:25:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
What does a 250GB a month translate to in internet usage?

I do not know the details of how Comcast counts bytes and how they relate to hitting the cap. I do know though (and I am sure most people here do as well) that when you upload or download anything on any network, there are a lot of bytes used in network overhead. If these are counted against your usage as well, then... well... ouch!

19 posted on 10/23/2009 6:25:54 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Little Pig
On the other hand, Net Neutrality would prevent ISPs from throttling access to websites they didn’t agree with, including political websites like this one.

This is already the law currently. Most ISPs operate under common carrier rules and cannot engage in such blocking.

20 posted on 10/23/2009 6:27:04 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

Major ouch!!!

This seems no different than limiting the time we watch television, listen to the radio, or talk on the phone. (My own unexpert opinion, of course)


21 posted on 10/23/2009 6:29:50 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Little Pig

This net nuetrality sounds like a solution to a problem that does not yet exist. Hence it is not conservative to back it.

Also if my phone company messes with my internet, I’ll drop them for the cable company or vice versa.


22 posted on 10/23/2009 6:29:55 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Doug Hoffman for Congress NY-23)
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To: opentalk
This is one of those looks good on paper things, but will it go anywhere?

Whatever happened to the cable ala carte?

Cable ala carte fizzled out.
23 posted on 10/23/2009 6:35:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Unfortunately I think you are right. The Internet is a major threat for this administration.
24 posted on 10/23/2009 6:43:25 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
I'm sure he can find a common ground by which he can agree with the liberals before it's all over .

MMMMMM,,,MMMMMMMMMMM,,,MMMMMMMMM ,,,,,,,,,,,,, can you say Rin0 !!!!!!

25 posted on 10/23/2009 6:48:43 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ 0bama's dream is an American NIGHTMARE }:-)
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To: NeoCaveman

The ISPs have been threatening to implement bandwidth throttling based on content. This law is intended to preempt that.


26 posted on 10/23/2009 6:55:07 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: opentalk

Doing a bit more research, I find that McCain wants to let ISPs start controlling which traffic gets highest priority over network links. And, AT&T (one of those ISPs) gave McCain close to a quarter million dollars for his campaign.

Sure, it’s a great idea to keep government out of private business as a general principle, but sometimes the businesses (oligopolies in this case) collaborate to screw the consumer, and the government (as a representative of the public) has to step in and stop them. I support Net Neutrality, and would be behind a WELL-CRAFTED bill enforcing existing Neutrality requirements. What I don’t trust is the current administration creating a non-partisan, non-”trojan horse” Neutrality bill.


27 posted on 10/23/2009 7:05:26 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: opentalk

Is this it?

The Internet Tax Freedom Act

http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/itfa.htm


28 posted on 10/23/2009 7:24:32 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Then, you buy up cheap domain names, and distribute it out through a “tree.”

Every time they shut down one domain, you mirror the site on another, and you just roll to the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, and the next.

When they come for your servers, you take off their heads.


29 posted on 10/23/2009 7:26:24 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: opentalk

Isn’t this the same mccain that brought us mccain-feingold?
This smells.


30 posted on 10/23/2009 7:28:24 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Little Pig

Uh no.. the FCC’s actions are intended to preempt that. This law intended to preempt the FCC.


31 posted on 10/23/2009 7:31:56 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

Yes, that’s what I meant. Sorry. The Net Neutrality law intends to prevent content throttling. McCain’s bill is intended to thwart the FCC, and to support content throttling (whether implicitly or explicitly, I don’t know).


32 posted on 10/23/2009 7:44:23 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: opentalk

Well, darned if the old fool isn’t right every once in a while.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 7:52:38 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: opentalk

When McCain introduces what you think is a good bill, watch out, he’s got his own he wants to introduce later.


34 posted on 10/23/2009 7:54:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Little Pig
but sometimes the businesses (oligopolies in this case) collaborate to screw the consumer, and the government (as a representative of the public) has to step in and stop them.

The competition in the telecom industry is fierce. There is no "oligopoly". When bandwidth demands become greater than the infrastructure can accommodate, who will finance the updates?

35 posted on 10/23/2009 8:15:38 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: opentalk

I generally don’t have any use for McCain, but when he is right, as he is in this case, I will applaud and support his efforts.


36 posted on 10/23/2009 8:18:18 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: pnh102

I have comcast - what does it mean by imposing a cap? How does it affect me when I log on?


37 posted on 10/23/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: 3catsanadog
John McCain's bill is against how the internet is now. The FCC wants the internet's traffic to be unregulated so that all traffic is treated the same, commercial or private. What John McCain bill enables is for the Internet Service Providers to choose the way they want to regulate traffic. Once this goes into effect, what is to stop partnerships between ISPs and other companies from streamlining certain traffic and ignoring other traffic. It's like taking a lane on the interstate and reserving it for "insert corporation name" traffic only, while all the other lanes are so much slower now that they have one less lane for general use.
38 posted on 10/23/2009 12:43:45 PM PDT by Concerned Mum
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To: 3catsanadog
Sorry, I went off on a rant. But to how capping your bandwidth to 250GB means nothing more than you can only use 250GB per month. If you left Hulu on to stream video, your kbps(kilobits per sec) would be around 700 and if you streamed it nonstop for a whole month, you would use about 230GB of bandwidth. They do this to prevent people from hogging up bandwidth (usually by constant downloading and torrenting). This really wouldn't effect 98% of people who use the internet and those other 2% could find business elsewhere with a more expensive but uncapped ISP.
39 posted on 10/23/2009 1:01:40 PM PDT by Concerned Mum
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To: opentalk

It’s always the way government regulations start. Under the guise that it’s for the better for all of us. Then the fines and more regulations and more fines and less and less freedom.

Why regulate something that doesn’t need regulating? Only one reason and that’s control.


40 posted on 10/23/2009 5:37:37 PM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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