The primate skeleton "Ida," once called "the link" to an evolutionary ancestor of humans and apes, turns out not to be even close.
Posted on 10/23/2009 10:55:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Remember Ida, the fossil discovery announced last May with its own book and TV documentary?
A publicity blitz called it "the link" that would reveal the earliest evolutionary roots of monkeys, apes and humans. Experts protested that Ida wasn't even a close relative. And now a new analysis supports their reaction.
In fact, Ida is as far removed from the monkey-ape-human ancestry as a primate could be, says an expert at Stony Brook University on Long Island.
Professor Erik Seiffert and his colleagues compared 360 specific anatomical features of 117 living and extinct primate species to draw up a family tree. They report the results in today's issue of the journal Nature.
Ida is a skeleton of a 47-million- year-old cat-sized creature found in Germany. It starred in a book, "The Link: Uncovering Our Earliest Ancestor," and a TV documentary narrated by David Attenborough.
Ida represents a previously unknown primate species called Darwinius. The scientists who formally announced the finding said they weren't claiming Darwinius was a direct ancestor of monkeys, apes and humans. But they did argue that it belongs in the same major evolutionary grouping, and that it showed what an actual ancestor of that era might have looked like.
The new analysis says Darwinius does not belong in the same primate category as monkeys, apes and humans.
Instead, the analysis concluded, it falls into the other major grouping, which includes lemurs.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Doesn’t look like a boner to me......
Every discovery seems to be an attempt to bang that square into the round hole.
I’m not disputing evolution because I am not educated enough in it to dispute anything. However it seems a little odd that instead of discovering things, they try to make a theory hypothosized (sp?) centuries ago to fit now.
Most people just don’t have enough Faith to believe in Darwinism. God is a more logical explanation.
Pray for America and Our Troops
Anyone can Dispute ‘A Lie’ like Evolution,
Answer Me This;
If Evolution is True,then Show Me One Example,,,,,NOW.
waiting.....
a bird with Scales?
Dolphin with Lungs?
See what I Mean?
When a Creature ‘Changes’ or Evolves it is Terminal, it Fails.
Tell me How this approach is Flawed,
Thanks,
Lemurs are primates.
..Which make the author "not very bright"
Did you have a point?
Last I knew, Dolphins had lungs, and um (most) Birds have scales on their legs.
Also I'm sure your "Dolphins with lungs" question was a typo. All dolphins have lungs.
...errr.... I suppose you wrote this as a gibe? If not, I give you ::facepalm::.
When a Creature ‘Changes’ or Evolves it is Terminal, it Fails
False statement. SOME mutations cause a positive heritable change, some cause a negative heritable change, some cause a neutral heritable change, some mutations do nothing other than get passed on........some cause a terminal change.
LOL!
Why Does This Creature Have to Have Come FROM something Else?
Could it not have Been Created as ‘Itself’ and Then Die Out?
Rather Than a Missing Link, a Quirk ?
So would we call that a "soft-tissue fossil" or not?
never had a real discussion, huh.
So Name a Positive Change.....
It was created as itself. But it no longer exists.
However, the fossil record for the time after this organism exists has other organisms similar to it in some ways.
It doesn’t exist in the fossil record proceeding it, but other organisms exist that were similar to it in some ways.
Unless you think the earth is only a few thousand years old, this leads to the idea that it’s a link between these other organisms.
Otherwise it’s just another rock that fell from the moon.
But you didn’t say what you thought it was. Which is what I thought you asked in your post.
A good ice breaker for you to start a real discussion would be something like:
"Why are there still monkeys?"
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