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History Lessons for Chris Matthews and Ron Reagan Jr. (Ron-Ron doesn't know the Bush Doctrine)
NewsRealBlog.com ^ | October 23, 2009 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 10/23/2009 1:17:45 PM PDT by FrontPageMag.com

History is hard when you have a thrill running down your leg.

History is hard when you have a thrill running down your leg....

For a show that prides itself on its knowledge of news and history, Hardball with Chris Matthews made some embarrassing errors last night, including the fact that Ron Reagan Jr. apparently doesn't understand the Bush Doctrine. Chris and Ron, his guest "expert" on Afghanistan, came up with two historical inaccuracies within minutes of one another. When conservative guest Frank Gaffney said he hoped Afghanistan could be pacified, as Germany was after World War II, Matthews snapped:

Matthews: There were no American soldiers killed after V-E Day, and you know it. Stop bringing up. Stop.

Gaffney: There were people killed after V-E Day, as a matter of fact....

Matthews: Not in Europe...Not in Germany.

Gaffney: Yes, indeed, there were....

Matthews: When did this happen?

Gaffney: We had all kinds of operations that were going on by revanchist groups that were still trying to kill Americans and others.

Matthews: I'll have to go and check this. There was no activity after '45.

Gaffney: There certainly were activities.

Well, Chris, the group Gaffney referenced was called the Werewolves. Professor Perry Biddiscombe of the University of Victoria has described their campaign of bombings, snipings, and terrorism lasting from the collapse of the Third Reich "until at least 1947." The History Channel even did a special on them called Nazi Guerrillas. I hope that helps. Thanks; Frank and I look forward to your on-air retraction tonight.

Now, for Ron Reagan.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; bushdoctrine; chrismatthews; naziguerrillas; ronreagan

1 posted on 10/23/2009 1:17:46 PM PDT by FrontPageMag.com
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To: FrontPageMag.com

great item. I saw this exchange and was flabbergasted as to how wrong both Matthews and Reagan were [wow that just reads wrong].


2 posted on 10/23/2009 1:21:23 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: lonestar67

Chrisy and the sissy make Blitzed seem intelligent.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 1:22:48 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

“For a show that prides itself on its knowledge of news and history, Hardball with Chris Matthews made some embarrassing errors last night, including the fact that Ron Reagan Jr. apparently doesn’t understand the Bush Doctrine.”

that makes two of us...unless he means pre-emption, but as far as I know, the “Bush Doctrine” was a leftist assignation for whatever went wrong they could snipe at...his policies changed as the war unfolded, so there is no one single doctrine...


4 posted on 10/23/2009 1:23:39 PM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

President Reagan was a great president, but horrible father.


5 posted on 10/23/2009 1:24:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: FrontPageMag.com

To Chrissy and Ron-Ron - Open mouth, insert foot, chew vigoriously and enjoy filet of sole.


6 posted on 10/23/2009 1:25:31 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

I didn’t there was a Bush doctrine. Hey, MSM would you please make one up soon so we will know for sure.


7 posted on 10/23/2009 1:27:08 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: FrontPageMag.com

“We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.”

For all the confusion over what constitutes “The Bush Doctrine,” this is the best definition I can think of. I know Charlie Gibson thinks it means “preemption,” and it may well involve preemption, I guess. But of course, in the case of Afghanistan, we fought them because they were harboring the group that attacked us.

In the case of Iraq, fears of future attacks were invoked as justification. However, we also based it on Iraq having violated the treaty settling their invasion of Kuwait way back when, so it, too, was not strictly a case of preemption.


8 posted on 10/23/2009 1:31:29 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: FrontPageMag.com
The Werewolves like to be mentioned, ie Sec Rice. However, there is no comparison to what Iraqi and Afghanistan 'resistance' in terms of damage and people killed.
9 posted on 10/23/2009 1:32:04 PM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: FrontPageMag.com
Tell Matthews to watch the last episode of Band of Brothers.

Part of that episode focused on it.

10 posted on 10/23/2009 1:32:58 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

“Hardball with Chris Matthews made some embarrassing errors last night,”

Hardball IS an embarrassment.


11 posted on 10/23/2009 1:38:14 PM PDT by Spok
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To: napscoordinator

By all accounts, Ronald Reagan (the president) was aloof, not only as a father but in all his personal relationships. Only Nancy Reagan ever broke through totally. Withdrawal is a typical coping mechanism for the children of alcoholics.


12 posted on 10/23/2009 1:40:16 PM PDT by FrontPageMag.com
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roflol! Those darn facts are stubborn things that neither Chris Matthews nor Ron Reagan bother with.

If there weren't enough reasons to tune out MSNBC already they've brought back Mr. “expert on everything” including conservatives & Afghanistan, Ron Reagan.

13 posted on 10/23/2009 1:40:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: napscoordinator

Michael turned out just fine. Maybe Nancy was a bad mother


14 posted on 10/23/2009 1:45:04 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Ron doesn’t know wher his next boyfriend is coming from........


15 posted on 10/23/2009 1:50:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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(Ron-Ron doesn't know the Bush Doctrine)

Ron-Ron knows nothing about bush - period.

16 posted on 10/23/2009 1:54:57 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Oooh ooh! I have some questions

Question 1: What is the Obama Doctrine?


17 posted on 10/23/2009 2:00:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Question 2: What is Marxism?


18 posted on 10/23/2009 2:00:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Revolting cat!

Didn’t Junior have a hit cover song in the 1980s “Don’t mess with my tutu?”


19 posted on 10/23/2009 2:02:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Question 1: What is the Obama Doctrine?”

hopium


20 posted on 10/23/2009 2:24:03 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

As a guy who was there for a year after WW II ended, Gaffney is full of it. Guys died later from injuries received during the war but there were no Nazis killing us either with guns or improvised devices.


21 posted on 10/23/2009 2:30:26 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Is it just me or does Matthews look like he just got out of a stroke ward?


22 posted on 10/23/2009 2:31:30 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: BGHater

The action of Danish film Director Lars von Trier’s ZENTROPA, starring Max von Sydow and Barbara Sukowa,
revolves around the post-WWII revanchist Werewolves.


23 posted on 10/23/2009 3:15:30 PM PDT by bruinfan
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To: FrontPageMag.com

The little picture of Ron and Nancy’s boy could be put next to the dictionary definiton of “ingratitude”.


24 posted on 10/23/2009 3:30:30 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: RWGinger

Jane was the better mother, but why did she get rid of a perfectly good husband?


25 posted on 10/23/2009 3:31:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: FrontPageMag.com
Personally if you want to talk about post war terrorist groups lets talk about the KKK, ask a lib if we should just punt on them
26 posted on 10/23/2009 3:46:47 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

If little Chrissy Mathews feels another “thrill going up his leg”, it’s probably the tinkerbell Ron-Ron’s hand.


27 posted on 10/23/2009 4:04:06 PM PDT by panaxanax (At what point will the American people finally scream out "NO MORE!!"?)
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To: Theodore R.

“The little picture of Ron and Nancy’s boy could be put next to the dictionary definiton of “ingratitude”.”

...Next to Christopher Buckley and Frank Schaeffer.


28 posted on 10/23/2009 4:07:56 PM PDT by FrontPageMag.com
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To: bruinfan

How many people died AFTER THE WAR in this alleged Nazi post-war insurgency?


29 posted on 10/23/2009 4:13:54 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: FrontPageMag.com
I'm still not quote sure what the Bush Doctrine is, either, even after all of the talk about it when Sarah Palin couldn't answer a piece of trash masquerading as a journalist's question about it.
30 posted on 10/23/2009 4:53:49 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: RWGinger

You got remember Jane Wyman is Michael Reagan mom while we all know who Ballet Dancer Ron Prescott Reagan mom Nancy Davis Reagan


31 posted on 10/23/2009 6:05:16 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: jessduntno
The Bush Doctrine was the RAT strawman. Fields full of strawman.
32 posted on 10/23/2009 6:22:08 PM PDT by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: panaxanax

“If little Chrissy Mathews feels another “thrill going up his leg”, it’s probably the tinkerbell Ron-Ron’s hand.”

No doubt ;-)


33 posted on 10/24/2009 7:01:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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