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Who the RINOs and the DIABLOs are
based on data from Thomas, the US Congress's web portal ^ | 10-24-09 | Dangus

Posted on 10/23/2009 11:48:22 PM PDT by dangus

Who are the the DIABLOs (Democrats In All But Labels Only)? Who are the RINOs (Republicans In Name Only)?

Unfortunately, the American Conservative Union's rankings are pretty useless. In search of being non-partisan and having an even spread of votes, they include many votes which are very lopsided, and so therefore Republicans can fake conservatism without upsetting their media masters and liberal donors. At the same time, a conservative who thinks that a bill is too liberal can get lumped in with all the liberals who thought the bill was too conservative. Combining these two factors, it's impossible to tell true mavericks from the sort of media-created mavericks who can be counted on to stab conservatives in the back.

Therefore, I went hunting for close votes and votes where rigid party discipline was desperately needed. I came up with 16, excluding immigration. Each bad vote earned one demerit. Because that issue has faced so many subtleties, I relied on the excellent work of NumbersUSA to grade the congressmen, and I assigned up to three demerits to those who received poor grades.

These, then, are the House Republicans least likely to help the conservative movement.This is a work in progress. If you feel there is an issue that is unrepresented, and can suggest a vote which was either tight, or along party lines, please suggest it, and I will include it in version 2.0 of this study. Also, feel free to suggest Senate actions, because I will be doing a Senate version of this study

DIABLO: Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware (13 points).

Almost DIABLO:
Eleana Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart, Steve LaTourette, (10 points)
(The difference between the Diaz-Balarts and Ros Lehtinen versus Castle was Castle's support for abortion and gun grabbing.)
Vernon Ehlers (9 points)
Chris Smith (8 points)
Mark Kirk, Dave Reichert (7 points)

Reps. Lance, Rogers of Michigan (6 points)
Reps. Buchanan, Cao, Freylinghuysen, LoBiondo, Miller, Turner, Upton (5 points)

Potential backstabbers
Reps. Bono Mack, Camp, Dent, Emerson, Gerlach, Inglis, King of NY, Ryan, Souder, Young of FL (4 points) Reps. Brown-Waite, Johnson, Jones, Lee, McCotter, Murphy, Petri, Platts, Radanovich, Wolf, Young of AK (3 points)

To help you make up your own mind, based on which issues you find important, and to solicit help spotting errors or ambiguities, these are the party bolters on each key vote I analyzed:

Paycheck Fairness Act
Cao, Castle, Diaz-Balart (both), Gerlach, Johnson, Ros-Lehtinen, Reichert, Smith of NJ

SCHIP "reform":
Austria, Bono Mack, Buchanan, Castle, Diaz-Balard (both), Ehlers, Emerson, Freylngheusen, Gerlach, King of NY, Lance, LaTourette, Lee, LoBiondo, McHugh, Miller of MI, Moran, Murphy, Paulsen, Petri, Platts, Rehberg, Reichert, Rogers of AL, Ros-Lehtinen, Simpson, Smith of NJ, Thompson of PA, Turner, Upton, Wolf, Young (both)

TARP "reform":
Buchanan, Camp, Campbell, Castle, Diaz-Balart (2), Ehlers, Hoekstra, Lance, LaTourette, McCotter, Miller of MI, Reichert, Rogers of MI, Schock, Souder, Turner, Upton,

Relating to the disapproval of obligations under the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008:
Campbell, Kirk, Souder, Inglis

Fair Pay Act:
Lance, Smith of NH, Whitfield

DTV Delay Act:
Bilirakis, Brown-Waite, Buchanan, Cao, Diaz-Balart (both), Duncan, Emerson, Jones, LaTouretts, LoBiondo, McClintock, McHugh, Posey, Roe, Rogers (both), Ros-Lehtinen, Sensenbrenner, Shuster, Smith of NJ, Sullivan, Turner

Bailing out bad loans (HR 1106):
Castle, Diaz-Balart (2), Jones, McHugh, Ros-Lehtinen, Turner

Land Management:
Bono Mack, Brown-Waite, Capito, Cassidy, Castle, Dent, Ehlers, Fortenberry, Freylingheusen, Gerlach Inglis, Johnson, Jones, Kirk, Lance, LaTourette, Lee, LoBiondo, McKeon, Miller of MI, Paulsen, Petri, Platts, Reichert, Rooney, Ros-Lehtinen, Simpson, Smith of NJ, Smith of TX, Turner, Upton, Walden, Wamp, Whitfield, Wittman, Wolf, Young (both)

Mortgage Reform Amendments:
Brown-Waite, Dent, Ehlers, Gerlach, Jones (2), Lance, LoBiondo, Murphy (2), Platts, Reichert, Smith of NJ, Turner

21st Century Green High-Performing Public School Facilities Act:
Brown-Waite, Dent, Diaz-Balart (both), Ehlers, Gerlach, Johnson, King of NY, Kirk, Lance, LaTourette, LoBiondo, McCaul, McCotter, McHugh, Miller, Murphy, Platts, Posey, Reichert, Ros-Lehtinen, Smith of NJ, Young of FL

Motion to Recommit 2nd Supplemental Appropriations (HR 2346):
Campbell, Duncan, Flake, Paul

Oversees Promotion of Abortion:
Castle, Dent, Kirk, LaTourette, Lance, McHugh, Reichert

Public Funding of Elective Abortion in DC:
Capito, Castle, LaTourette, McHugh

Deny Funds to Planned Parenthood:
Biggert, Castle, Dent, Freylingheusen, Jenkins, Kirk, Lance

Some Votes from 2008 were too critical to ignore: Automobile Bailout (HR 7321):
Boozman, Hunter, Castle, Manzullo, LaHood, Souder, Buyer, Lewis, McCrery, Gilchrest, Hoekstra, Ehlers, Camp, Upton, Rogers of MI, Knollenberg, Miller of MI, McCotter, Ramstad, Blunt, Emerson, Porter, Smith of NJ, Freylinghuysen, King of NY, McHugh, Walsh, Kuhl, LaTourette, Regula, English, Murphy, Capito, Ryan

TARP Bailout (HR 1424):
Young of AK, Shaddegg, Herger, Lundgren, Radanovich, McKeon, Dreier, Lewis, Calvert, Bono Mack, Tancredo, Shays, Castle, Crenshaw, Putnam, Buchanan, Ros-Lehtinen, Kirk, Weller, Biggert, LaHood, Souder, Lewis, Rogers, McCrery, Alexander, Boustany, Gilchrest, Hoekstra, Ehlers, Camp, Upton, Knollenberg, Kline, Pickering, Emerson, Terry, Porter, Saxton, Ferfuson, Freylinghuysen, Wilson of NM, King of NY, Fossella, McHugh, Walsh, Reynolds, Coble, Myrick, Schmidt, Hobson, Boehner, Regula, Pryce, Sullivan, Cole, Fallin, Walden, Peterson, Gerlach, Shuster, Dent, Brown, Wilson of SC, Barrett, Inglis, Wamp of TN, Brady, Conaway, Granger, Thornberry, Smith of TX, Sessions, Cannon, Cantor, Ryan, Cubin

Oil Exploration (S Con Res 70):
Shays, Bilirakis, Buchanan, Diaz-Balart (both), Johnson, Ehlers, Ramstad, LoBiondo, Saxton, Smith of NJ, Ferguson, Freylinghuysen, Walsh, Inglis, Reichert

D.C. Gun Rights (H.R. 3193)
Bono Mack, Castle, Davis of VA, Ferguson, Foley, Gilchrest, Greenwood, Houghton, Hyde, Johnson of CT, Kirk, Leach, Quinn, Ramstad, Saxton, Shays, Smith of NJ, Walsh, Wolf, Young of FL

In lieu of individual votes on immigration, I refer to NumbersUSA immigration grades, giving demerits for substandard grades
3 demerits:
F: Ros-Lehtinen, Diaz-Balart (both)
D: Cao
2 demerits:
C-: Kyl, Lee, Nunez, Radanovich, Ehlers
C: Flake, Ryan
C+: Rogers, LaTourette
1 demerit:
B-: Paul, Putnam, Wolf, Petri, Castle, Tiberi, McMorris, Camp, Boustany, Shimkus

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; castle; congress; connecticut; corruption; crist; dangus; diablo; election2010; florida; gop; house; illinois; kirk; rino; senate; simmons
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To: jiggyboy

In all seriousness, it means you should read the article more closely :^)

It’s House Republicans. I’m doing the Senate next.

21 posted on 10/24/2009 7:09:46 AM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Gondring

I purposely didn’t. A sitting Republican president can sell out his party, too. See McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the 1990 tax hikes, NCLB, etc.

22 posted on 10/24/2009 7:15:08 AM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m curious: Why such emphasis on the FDA case? Why is that a betrayal? Im not challenging, just trying to learn more about an issue that may have escaped my attention.

23 posted on 10/24/2009 7:59:05 AM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Jim Noble

Being pro-life doesn’t make you conservative.
***It is a step in the right direction.

24 posted on 10/24/2009 8:50:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo
Being pro-life doesn’t make you conservative. ***It is a step in the right direction.

Well, it probably means you aren't a communist, a nihilist, or somebody who wants to destroy the culture.

That's not enough.

25 posted on 10/24/2009 8:53:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: dangus

Or did the POTUS and party dell out conservatism?

26 posted on 10/24/2009 9:29:09 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
One can be anti-abortion (the CORRECT terminology) and still support almost total Marxism on economic issues. A lot of Catholic voters are that way.

Right on the nose. In fact, even many FReepers advocate Big Government implementation of their anti-abortion goals.

27 posted on 10/24/2009 9:36:29 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: dangus

I knew most of these would be DIABLOs or RINOs, but WHO are the very BEST ranking Congressmen?

28 posted on 10/24/2009 10:06:58 AM PDT by JSDude1 ( (Tea Party Member-Proud), (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Wonder Warthog; Jim Noble; dangus


29 posted on 10/24/2009 11:13:27 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: JSDude1

That’s MUCH harder to objectively quantify. Do you consider people who always vote the party line to be “BEST” over those who refuse to vote for party-supported compromises with centrist Democrats? Or who regularly make symbolic nays to pragmatic bills? And then there’s the phenomenon of party leaders like Cornyn on the right and, in the old days, Moynihan on the left... guys who vote very party line, but routinely undermine conservatives and liberals, respectively.

So what you get is people who become liked because they become champions for a given cause, and loved most by the people with whom that cause resonates most with them.

30 posted on 10/24/2009 4:02:27 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: newfreep

Just as one can see the NAACP or ACORN being an arm of the Democrat Party, the National Rifle Association seems to have become an arm of the GOP.

That’s a bold statement, but I think its true. I tried to get NRA support in a state legislative race against the official party backed candidate who had spoken of “guns” as a threat that needed to be regulated.

The NRA stood clear and allowed the anti-Second Amendment RINO to win the primary. I got the feeling that something was going on behind the scenes with this guy maybe talking both ways or party insiders vouching for him with NRA.

The RINO in this district may or may not be friendly to the Second Amendment. Heck, even the Democrat they appointed to the Senate from upstate New York has touted her ownership of a firearm.

31 posted on 10/24/2009 8:33:44 PM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Noble

That’s not enough.
***OK, I’ll bite. What are the minimal elements of being a conservative? I’ve always liked JimRob’s definition on the front page of FR, but it doesn’t say what would be the minimalist conservative:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

32 posted on 10/24/2009 8:37:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: dangus; nickcarraway; BillyBoy
The only true liberal in the list is Mike Castle.

Mark Kirk is definitely a RINO.

33 posted on 10/25/2009 10:32:38 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (
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To: dangus

My Post here on Aug. 1st. will be a start for explaining my horror of this bill.

“The Jackasses did it……HR 2749 the Seizure of the US food supply and production passed the House”

You must understand that my family has farmed in the same county in Texas for over 110 years. And before that in Alabama and Georgia. This is a subject that I have some knowledge of.

The ultimate weapon of control in a country is the food supply. If you do not believe me, look a Zimbawe. Mugabe only distributes humanitarian aid to those who support him. You support me or die. Pretty simple.

Millions of farmers in the Ukraine were starved to death by Stalin in 1932-1933 (Holodomor) to crush the resistance to collectivism. There other examples that totalitarians have used food as a weapon to subject.

This is about regulation to destroy. It coupled with current PVP acts make it possible to destroy all but corporate agriculture. I feel that is exactly the aim.

If this does not convince you of the danger, let me know and I will take the time to explain in more detail the danger.

Never trust a Commie, and Obozo is a natural born Commie.

34 posted on 10/25/2009 5:12:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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