Skip to comments.Obama declares swine flu emergency
Posted on 10/24/2009 8:38:37 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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best preventative - Vit D3; do you have any info on 3k dosage; do you get blood work to test for levels?
But they claim there’s not enough vaccine...
It’s a mild flu for crying out loud!
You cannot seriously be this stupid. Please use sarcasm tags!
Yes the Bird flu was going to kill every one. And the left in this country blamed that on Bush. I wonder why they are not blaming obama.
Interesting anecdote here...
I am in “upstateNY” (actually far southwestern NY) and when I visited my g
family practitioner about 6 weeks ago, I told him that I didn’t want the flu shot.
He told me then that there wouldn’t be flu shots available anyway. He knew they couldn’t get them ready on time. So why all the .gov hullaballoo?
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel posted this photo essay showing the HUGE lines of people being forced to wait outside in the rain for flu shots:
You can’t find the number because they are not tracking H1N1 cases. Apparently the real number of cases were not meeting CDC’s expectations and hype so they issued an edict to stop tracking. CBS, no less, reported here:
>>The 1918 flu pandemic killed about 650,000 Americans and about 20-40 million worldwide<<
With WWI soldiers cramped into ships, no tamiflu and no antibiotics for secondary infections.
Our medicine and circumstances are not sitting in 1918.
I was going say
WE ARE GOING DIED LOL! reset
Yeah I hear about that on CNN
Only flu shot was seasonal I am concern about swine flu shot too many mysteries for my taste
A friend of mines’ pregnant daughter and her two year old son were dx with swine flu Mon. Were both given tamiflu and both were back to school/work on Wed.Also I am a hospice nurse and all the docs we work with are telling us not to take the vaccine or our families.
From CNN’s White House correspondent.
Emergency Declaration will:
Grant waivers to hospitals
Allows federal government to help states move around ventilators etc.
NOT in response to the current numbers but is a proactive decision, in case things should get worse.
Same here....waiting for next shoe to drop
I don’t remember anything but the hype.
No kidding. That's exactly what he did before. As long as the Republican senators held up the confirmation of Kathleen Sebelius, Killer Tiller's bosom body and abortionist extraordinaire, just about the last person in the world we need as Secretary of Health and Welfare, the Republicans were held responsible for the whole Mexican swine flu crisis. And the media eagerly joined the hunt. Republicans are stonewalling in the face of the Swine Flu threat!
When they saw the headlines blaming them for the flu epidemic, they caved in about three minutes, and rushed the confirmation through by a large margin, 65-31.
If as TigerLikesRooster questioned, this is used to ban public gatherings (tea parties), instead of due to an actual emergency... action should be taken... especially since no action was taken all this time (as broadcast), and the experts came out saying it didn’t act like they thought re: spread and was a milder form.
Back to tangent.
First off, timeline of the movement of pharma vaccine makers leaving the US, due to legal, environmental cases... which left us with one firm (hence extending the wait, as well as testing differences, FDA process/proofs given from firms, reasons for delay whether on their side or ours).
Remember also, at the start we were told this or that person died as a result of ‘other health conditions’, not solely this flu. We need those stories as well.
Documentation of defenses or medical checks re: travel done while it went up the chart to the pandemic level.
We also need a map of states/cities that went mandatory.
Stories of universities, schools where quar. was used (either in dorm room, or homes), and recoveries.
Also incidents at the pharma firms (and accidents), re: timelines, etc.
The notice from the firms re: multi-use and nasal content of live virus vs. other firms single-use packaged syringes.
Contents re: amounts of thimerisol/mercury remaining at end of process, list of possible side effects and the fact testing wasn’t done by most on the group they had more deaths (at the beginning, youth to 20 something), vs. pregnant women and the reversal (Florida, other states), reasoning on not giving the elderly the vaccine in that state (vs. others).
No Wiki links please. There are many timelines that have ‘interests’, but there has to be some that don’t.
Best to have coverage in case of adverse effects or unwarranted gov’t actions to look back on.
Tin foil hat off/
Interesting post by Rembrandt:
“I live in Sarasota, FL. Doctors here are being instructed (dont know by what orgn) to report all flu cases as H1N1 cases. There has to be some flim-flammery going on with that.”
Those requirements are contained in the Medicare, Medicaid, and state Children’s Health Insurance programs, and the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act privacy rule.
Yes. 'Interesting' to say the least and is one way to put it.
Another way to put it is, 'Lock & Load' and 'Molon Labe'. I have a bad feeling that Rahm is thinking this is his 'Reichstag Fire'.
(I trust the Mafia more than this group of criminals)
I will bet that if there is actually an increase in the number of autism and autism spectrum disorder cases in excess of the number that would be revealed by increased screening or by looser definitions, it would codistribute geographically and temporally with the increase in childhood allergies and asthma, with increasing affluence (relative to typical living conditions over the past several centuries), and would be another manifestation of having too light an antigen challenge to the immature immune system. In other words, the more people start living in aseptic, dust-free environments, the more effed-up a growing percentage of the population will be.
I’m not sure we disagree...
It actually might be you who is stupid. I warned of the Mexican Flu months ago and suggested a complete shutdown of the US border with Mexico among other things. Nothing was done, and we had a jackass President preside over it and make it worse. Now look what we have.
Two Purdue University math researchers have predicted the novel H1N1 flu will peak so early that planned vaccinations will not have a large effect on the number of people infected
Unbelievable Facts - Strange Facts - Life or Death
A Matter of Life or Death
On average, 100 people choke to death every year on ball-point pens. And beware of toothpicks. They are the objects most often choked on by Americans.
You are more likely to be killed by a champagne cork than by a poisonous spider.
The odds of being killed by space debris are one in five billion.
You are more likely to be killed by a donkey than in a plane crash.
200 people a year die in avalanches.
A total of 55,700 Americans are injured each year by jewellery.
About 1000 people commit suicide on any one day.
Not only that, but I have been reading many firsthand reports at FR where a diagnosis of swine flu is being made -— WITHOUT testing.
How is swine flu to be distinguished from any garden-variety flu without testing?
Did I wake up in the Twilight Zone??? O my gosh.
Brian Wilson just said the declaration enables the people in place for first responders to get ready, like putting the infrastructure in place ahead of a hurricane making landfall. I don’t know how to cifer that for pig flu.
Your judgement about their motives is entirely correct.
Your judgement that it's a farce? That remains to be seen.
You might be right, but maybe not.
Play in the dirt and life will be fine.
Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 631,636
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
Alzheimer’s disease: 72,432
Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,344
WHY no national emergency to make folks stop eating bacon? That is the REAL “swine” problem in this country. Look at the number of deaths from heart disease!
Milk the “crisis” for everything it’s worth. Right out of the Alinsky playbook.
See my post #176
That’s what seems to be happening in most areas. Who is actually being tested for swine flu?
It is very odd that if this is a pandemic and it started in Mexico this summer why is it only effecting the US and not other countries?
welcome to martial law
You all can see the truth here:
Very interesting, imfrmdixie.
Also check THIS out, although I admit I'm not familiar with this source - "GlobalResearch.ca":
This is just a dry run - see Martial Law posted last week at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2367063/posts?page=33
Sebelius Prods Senate to Move on Surgeon General Nominee
We are facing a major pandemic, we have a well-qualified candidate for surgeon general, shes been through the committee process. We just need a vote in the Senate, Sebeilus said. Please give us a surgeon general.
Benjamin was unanimously approved by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee on Oct. 7, but Senate Republicans are holding up all HHS nominees over a so-called gag order on insurance companies that have been critical of Democratic efforts to reform health care.
Weve not received any recent calls from the administration about their nominee, a senior Republican aide said. There wont be any time agreements for confirmation of HHS nominees until their actions have been fully reviewed.
People die every day. You can look it up.
You can’t fix stupid. Look at all the stupid people standing in the rain exposing themselves to all those other people who might already have the flu. For hours.
Agreed. How does the number of infections and deaths where we are sitting justify this declaration? Putting the least sinister explanation on it would be that we are now such a nation of government-dependent pansies, he had to do it, even if just for show. But, with him, who knows?
Due to the circulation of 2009 H1N1 influenza in the United States and many other countries, airport staff in some foreign countries may check the health of arriving passengers. Many other countries, including Japan and China, are screening arriving passengers for symptoms of the flu.
If you are sick with symptoms of flu-like illness, you should not travel. These symptoms include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills, and fatigue. Some people may also have vomiting and diarrhea. People may be infected with the flu and have respiratory symptoms without a fever.
The United States is not screening travelers who arrive from other countries or depart for other countries.
In other countries that are conducting entry screening for 2009 H1N1 flu, travelers may be checked for fever and other symptoms of 2009 H1N1 flu, and their travel may be delayed. Consult the embassy of the country, or countries, in your travel itinerary for information about entry screening procedures. (October 15, 2009)
If doctors in your area are telling you few people have H1N1 as a result of H1Ni tests they are running, they are fibbing. As far as I know, Texas is the only state that set up it’s own special swine flu testing labs in May and the rest of the country is dependent upon the Federal Government’s labs and they stopped testing for swine ful in July.
So your docs can not say for sure the number of people who have gotten the swine flu in your state. They are repeating rumors and nonsense.
Also, for you folks who keep repeating that number “36,000’ die of regular flu each year, that is a made up number. They accumulate that data - someone at CDC guessitmated.
It is becoming clearer why zero’s homeland security and CDC is not collecting data on the flu. This way they can make up any numbers they want in order to justify what they want with invented data.
Looks like they want “national emergency” for the made up number of a million cases of the flu.
Also, zero gave away (global life redistribution) 10% of our vaccines. To those who don’t want or need the vaccine, this is fine. But to those who want it and many “soccer moms” desparately want it, they will not be allowed to have it because zero is into redistributing the vaccine to third world nations as ordered by WHO.
If we were smart - and Republicans are not smart - we would be making a big deal about this as zero ratchets up the fear factor in the public to justify police state powers and emergency passage of his socialist take over of the health care industry. If this is so serious, why is zero killing Americans? Why is there a shortage of vaccines if this is such a dangerous flu virus? Is this what we can expect from government health care - death?
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