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AP sources: Senate likely to cut employer mandate
Associated Press ^ | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 10/25/2009 2:14:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Businesses would not be required to provide health insurance under legislation being readied for Senate debate, but large firms would owe significant penalties if any worker needed government subsidies to buy coverage on their own, according to Democratic officials familiar with talks on the bill.

For firms with more than 50 employees, the fee could be as high as $750 multiplied by the total size of the work force if only a few workers needed federal aid, these officials said. That is a more stringent penalty than in a bill that recently cleared the Senate Finance Committee, which said companies should face penalties on a per-employee basis.

These officials also said individuals would generally be required to purchase affordable insurance if it were available, and face penalties if they defied the requirement.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; benefits; bhohealthcare

1 posted on 10/25/2009 2:14:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And how much, per employee, is providing health care costing these “big companies”?

I suspect that, by design, it will be cheaper to pay the fine then buy the health care.


2 posted on 10/25/2009 2:22:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Good news for China and India.Another 7 million US manufacturing jobs going to the former and another 5 million high tech jobs going to the latter.
3 posted on 10/25/2009 2:23:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Reading the article now, wondering if the fee is per month, year or what?


4 posted on 10/25/2009 2:24:44 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I cannot fathom why NO ONE is challenging the Constitutionality of this travesty. Granted, I believe that Medicare, Social Security, and a lot of other Federal programs are also un-Constitutional, but this one absolutely stinks to high heaven. Plus, we have the arrogant ignorance of Steny Hoyer telling us that the ‘general welfare’ clause give the Congress the authority to do ANYTHING it believes to be in the best interest of the people.

Surely we are headed to a day of reckoning. It’s time to take back the country.


5 posted on 10/25/2009 2:35:48 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“large firms would owe significant penalties if any worker needed government subsidies to buy coverage on their own, according to Democratic officials familiar with talks on the bill.”

So - if a worker can’t afford the required health insurance, her employer will have to pay a fine? Because they didn’t pay her enough to buy health insurance? Is that what I’m reading here?


6 posted on 10/25/2009 2:41:47 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: ElayneJ

“So - if a worker can’t afford the required health insurance, her employer will have to pay a fine? Because they didn’t pay her enough to buy health insurance? Is that what I’m reading here?”

This will tank a lot of businesses.


7 posted on 10/25/2009 2:42:39 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

It certainly will.


8 posted on 10/25/2009 2:44:11 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: PubliusMM

“I cannot fathom why NO ONE is challenging the Constitutionality of this travesty.”

Simply because no one has ever had any luck with that approach when it comes to large programs. I’m not saying that it shouldn’t be tried, I’m just saying that needs to be a fall-back.

After all, arguing the meaning of the Constitution with Democrats is futile.


9 posted on 10/25/2009 2:45:57 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"These officials also said individuals would generally be required to purchase affordable insurance if it were available, and face penalties if they defied the requirement."

I wonder how all the 20 to 30-yr old mushbrain liberals are going to like being forced to purchase, with their own money, health insurance that they may not even need if they're healthy and lead healthy lifestyles. It's like being penalized for eating and living the right way, while your hard earned money or taxes go to fund those that do not. I wonder if any of them will "get it" (what we've been against all along re: big government) finally.

10 posted on 10/25/2009 2:49:38 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

“I wonder how all the 20 to 30-yr old mushbrain liberals are going to like being forced to purchase”

Right now, they just think this is going to be a free entitlement.


11 posted on 10/25/2009 2:51:11 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I see the dems still think the Constitution mandates healthcare payments. Go to hell congress.


12 posted on 10/25/2009 2:56:43 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: PubliusMM

Nobody is challenging it, because though the court’s loose interpretation of the commerce clause and the equal protection clause, the federal government is free to do anything it wants.


13 posted on 10/25/2009 3:02:25 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Click on the picture and hear what our future is going to be like under government run health care!

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14 posted on 10/25/2009 3:03:43 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: PubliusMM
I cannot fathom why NO ONE is challenging the Constitutionality of this travesty.

Challenging the Constitutionality of a law is done by lawsuits and/or criminal trials after the law is passed. Arguments that this is unconstitutional have been made already.

15 posted on 10/25/2009 3:43:09 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: BobL

It has to be law before the courts will rule on constitutional grounds. Now why the congresscritters don’t do more, I can’t answer.


16 posted on 10/25/2009 4:27:05 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: ElayneJ
So - if a worker can’t afford the required health insurance, her employer will have to pay a fine? Because they didn’t pay her enough to buy health insurance? Is that what I’m reading here?

That would seem to be what they are saying. This would be a development where employers may want a government option. How could a company like McDonalds pay enough for health insurance for minimum wage employees.

17 posted on 10/25/2009 5:44:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: Grasping at Straw Men)
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To: Mike Darancette

Right. They couldn’t. They might not be able to provide insurance at all. So there’s our public option, I guess.


18 posted on 10/25/2009 5:51:13 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: ElayneJ

Have you noticed that the Obamaites call it a “Public” option while others correctly call it a “Government” Option?


19 posted on 10/25/2009 6:41:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: Grasping at Straw Men)
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To: Mike Darancette
Have you noticed that the Obamaites call it a “Public” option while others correctly call it a “Government” Option?

the same way people still call government schools public schools...

20 posted on 10/25/2009 6:51:24 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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the same way people still call government schools public schools

To be fair "public" schools have at least the veneer of public control what with elected school boards and all. The "government" option of Obamacare would be raw unbridled government control.

21 posted on 10/25/2009 7:54:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: Grasping at Straw Men)
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