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Chamber: White House attacks are backfiring
politico.com ^ | October 26, 2009 | JIM VANDEHEI & MIKE ALLEN

Posted on 10/26/2009 4:01:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Tom Donohue sits for an interview with POLITICO.

CEO and President of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Tom Donahue, talks with POLITICO about his relationship with the White House, the health care debate and the Chamber's membership. Photo: John Shinkle

U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue says a campaign by the White House and its allies to undermine his $200-million-a-year association has largely failed — and actually has helped raise even more money for its pro-business efforts.

In a 75-minute interview with POLITICO, Donohue dismissed recent defections by Apple and at least four other companies, which quit over the Chamber’s opposition to Democratic climate change legislation — as essentially meaningless. “Members come and go all the damn time,” he said.

That’s true. But rarely — if ever — have companies jumped ship in such a public way.

Donohue made plain he believes the White House, or at least its closest allies operating on the outside, are behind a very orchestrated campaign to embarrass and undermine the Chamber.

“People that are associated with those major pieces of legislation are somewhat frustrated and trying to marginalize the Chamber as well as people that work here,” he said.

The Chamber, like Fox News, says it’s making the best of a fight it did not choose. It’s unusual for a White House to take on critics so frontally, but aides to President Barack Obama said they decided in August they needed to be more aggressive in confronting their critics. And that revs up supporters on the left, who had hoped Obama would cater to them more quickly and gives the White House a foil to help argue its case.

POLITICO reported last week the White House wants to neuter the Chamber after clashes over health care, energy and financial regulation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aggressive; attacks; backfiring; bho44; chamberofcommerce; chicagomob; emmanuel; impeach; jarrett; mobbully; mobbullytactics; obamafightingcritics; schemes; tactics; wh

1 posted on 10/26/2009 4:01:06 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
In a 75-minute interview with POLITICO, Donohue dismissed recent defections by Apple and at least four other companies, which quit over the Chamber’s opposition to Democratic climate change legislation — as essentially meaningless. “Members come and go all the damn time,” he said.”

The US Chamber of Commerce has a massive 3 million members, how the heck is the defection of Apple to the 0bamabot camp relevant? It's a tiny blip.

Blurb from the The U.S. Chamber of Commerce site:

“The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the world's largest business federation representing 3 million businesses of all sizes, sectors, and regions, as well as state and local chambers and industry associations. More than 96% of U.S. Chamber members are small businesses with 100 employees or fewer.”
http://www.uschamber.com/about/default

That’s true. But rarely — if ever — have companies jumped ship in such a public way”

Who cares whether the quietly or they leave while squealing like the rats that they are? Bottom line is, members come and go all the time, and it's no worse now than it was before.

2 posted on 10/26/2009 4:15:43 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Boycott APPLE. It’s the ‘computer’ for the rest of them. How many apple ‘computers’ aboard the space station? ZERO !
How many apple ‘computers’ at NASA, Lawrence Livermore, Fermilab ? ZERO, ZERO ZERO !!


3 posted on 10/26/2009 4:17:45 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Unlike George Bush who stood by and let the Media and his enemies crap all over him Obama has chosen to fight back.

Mr, Bush still sit’s back and lets the media crap all over him. I thank Mr. Cheney for fighting back.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 4:25:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Looks like Obama has to suck it up and use plan B.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 4:32:02 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Venturer

Pardon me but there is a HUGE difference in ‘letting the media crap all over’ and attacking and trying to control the media and chamber of commerce. Obama is fighting back via the simple logic that he is not a leader he is a Chicago mob bully with radical marxism and tyrannical tendencies.

Obama got cought abecause he was so used to media cover. You may want to tell him the gig is up.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 4:36:39 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Venturer

I agree with you generally, but I think fighting back against media unfairness is much different from picking out one media outlet and going after them alone.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 4:46:05 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Huebolt

I was considering buying an Apple computer. Not any more. Why a private sector company—right now anyway—would tie itself to “climate change”—aka “global warming”—is a mystery to me.

A company that is so technology savvy could but buys into global warming tells me all I need to know about that company. Glad I don’t have any stock in Apple.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 5:02:20 AM PDT by dools007
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To: dools007
I was considering buying an Apple computer. Not any more. Why a private sector company—right now anyway—would tie itself to “climate change”—aka “global warming”—is a mystery to me.

You may already know that Al Gore is on their board of directors.

9 posted on 10/26/2009 5:07:00 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: paulycy
You may already know that Al Gore is on their board of directors.

I didn't know that. Oh well, I guess I won't be looking at a MacBook Pro this year. Screw 'em. If they want a commie on the board, then they don't want to earn my money.

10 posted on 10/26/2009 5:11:00 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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To: Venturer

“Unlike George Bush who stood by and let the Media and his enemies crap all over him Obama has chosen to fight back.”

Bush went too far one way and Obama is going too far the other way. Cheney knows how to launch a proper fight.


11 posted on 10/26/2009 5:12:54 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: meyer
Oh well, I guess I won't be looking at a MacBook Pro this year. Screw 'em.

If it's any consolation it looks like Windows 7 is actually going to be a really good operating system. Vista is OK, flawed, but w7 is getting great reviews. And linux distros like Ubuntu, etc. are good too if you're more hands on.

And again, maybe you know all this anyway. It'll be cheaper going non-mac. (I like both but buy the less expensive setup.)

12 posted on 10/26/2009 5:14:42 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: paulycy

I visited the new Apple retail store last year and was not impressed with the Obot odor that the sales and customers give off. The products were OK but very over priced....obviously going for the visual/gamer market. I expect they had an enormous vat of lefty koolaid in the back for their staff. What a crappy cult of Obot voters surrounds Apple!


13 posted on 10/26/2009 5:23:56 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Huebolt; Swordmaker
How many apple ‘computers’ at NASA, Lawrence Livermore, Fermilab ? ZERO, ZERO ZERO !!

Ping! Are you sure about that?

14 posted on 10/26/2009 5:44:47 AM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: Huebolt
Boycott APPLE. It’s the ‘computer’ for the rest of them.

I guess you'll have to boycott Microsoft too...

"The views expressed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce do not reflect Microsoft's position on climate change and we are not participating in their climate initiatives."
(ref)

15 posted on 10/26/2009 6:15:08 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: 6SJ7

omg ! ! !


16 posted on 10/26/2009 6:17:25 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: paulycy
If it's any consolation it looks like Windows 7 is actually going to be a really good operating system. Vista is OK, flawed, but w7 is getting great reviews. And linux distros like Ubuntu, etc. are good too if you're more hands on.

And again, maybe you know all this anyway. It'll be cheaper going non-mac. (I like both but buy the less expensive setup.)

I've got Vista on my desktop, and XP on the laptop. The laptop is woefully inadequate for image processing but overall, the operating systems on both have been relatively trouble-free. I've heard good things about Windows 7.

The reason I was even looking at the macbook was that I need the best video/monitor capability that I can get in a laptop. The Macbook Pro models have the new LED screens, but Dell (and others) offer that also now). The images from my DSLR camera are between 25 and 30 megabytes each in Canon's RAW format. My present laptop just can't handle them, and it's already upgraded to its maximum.

17 posted on 10/26/2009 6:35:42 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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To: 6SJ7

Good grief - why does a software company offer its “corporate” opinion on something as unrelated as “climate change” (formerly “global warming”)? That’s akin to a dentist recommending a brand of motor oil.


18 posted on 10/26/2009 6:38:20 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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To: meyer
Good grief - why does a software company offer its “corporate” opinion on something as unrelated as “climate change” ...

Good darn question! It would seem that a smart company would not want to alienate any potential customers and would "stick to its knitting".

19 posted on 10/26/2009 7:25:05 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: dools007
Oh, heck, go ahead and buy the MAC. Algor needs to pay the electric bill on his bungalow in Nashville.


20 posted on 10/26/2009 7:35:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: 6SJ7
Good darn question! It would seem that a smart company would not want to alienate any potential customers and would "stick to its knitting". Oh well, I guess I'd be wiser to spend $100 on MS software than spend $2500 on a Mac. Too bad I'm choosing which enemy I want to feed the most.
21 posted on 10/26/2009 7:41:12 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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To: Fresh Wind

Would make a great video of a jdam just like Santa sliding right down the chimney.


22 posted on 10/26/2009 8:19:59 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: BullDog108; Huebolt
How many apple ‘computers’ at NASA, Lawrence Livermore, Fermilab ? ZERO, ZERO ZERO !!

I'm certain that Huebolt is dead wrong.

"Apple's Federal Customers

Apple's three biggest federal customers are NASA, the Department of Energy, and the National Institutes of Health. At NASA, the biggest customers, as I recall, are NASA Goddard in Maryland and NASA Ames at Moffett Field in California. The Department of Energy list includes all of the major U.S. National Laboratories such as Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, Oak Ridge, and some minor ones. These sites typically have thousands of Macs. Of course, they also typically have tens of thousands of PCs.

There are also many other small U.S. research and policy sites that have a boatload of Macs and refresh them periodically: Loyal customers include the RAND corporation in Santa Monica, Mitre in Boston, the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, Colorado and the FBI. The U.S. Army is also a good customer for Apple. (As I've mentioned before, the USAF and the U.S. Navy are not so much.)"—Source: October 14th, 2009, The Mac Observer.

And here is the official FermiLab support page for the FermiLab Apple Mac IT department.
23 posted on 10/26/2009 8:29:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Huebolt
How many apple ‘computers’ at NASA, Lawrence Livermore, Fermilab ? ZERO, ZERO ZERO !!

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

"Apple's three biggest federal customers are NASA, the Department of Energy, and the National Institutes of Health. At NASA, the biggest customers, as I recall, are NASA Goddard in Maryland and NASA Ames at Moffett Field in California. The Department of Energy list includes all of the major U.S. National Laboratories such as Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, Oak Ridge, and some minor ones. These sites typically have thousands of Macs. Of course, they also typically have tens of thousands of PCs."
---http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2371087/posts

24 posted on 10/26/2009 8:29:49 AM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: Swordmaker

GMTA. You beat me by seconds...


25 posted on 10/26/2009 8:30:31 AM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: SmokingJoe

Well, that’s a good reason for me not to buy a APPLE computer... thanks APPLE, you already made my mind up on what computer company that I am NOT going to buy from.


26 posted on 10/26/2009 9:07:20 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

bump


27 posted on 10/26/2009 12:31:09 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BullDog108
Apple's three biggest federal customers are NASA

Apples are, indeed, totally preferred by secretarial staff. I was talking about scientific applications. As an electrical engineer, my fondest memory was of a large flat-bed truck in our parking lot LOADED WITH JUNKED APPLE COMPUTERS of every description. We dumped them as a way of getting rid of having to support two platforms. Only the administrative staff was PO'ed. The engineering staff and tech-support were VERY HAPPY. But everyone loves whatever it is they are used to. Some people like to eat raw squid, I've heard. All opinions are valid, of course. : )

28 posted on 10/29/2009 6:33:43 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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