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How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?


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1 posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:05 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

I guess it worked for him.


2 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Scythian

Have you watched Glenn Beck?
I have, and while I find him entertaining at times, and shockingly correct about a lot of things, I also find him to be about 1/2 step away from crazy.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:24 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Scythian
How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

What do his religious convictions have to do with anything?

4 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:39 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Scythian

He needs to watch the South Park episode it is a clincher.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:40 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Scythian

If you read the Religion forum, you’ll see I’m a very harsh critic of Mormonism, but come on, leave Beck alone on this. There’s no accounting for spiritual perception, particularly when someone has straightened his life out so much after joining a given sect.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:48 AM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Scythian

Why bring religion into it? Whatever you might think of the Mormons, they are honest and productive, and don’t go around shouting “jihad” every second. You wanna pick on an idiot religion, try Islam - who’s principal prophet would be jailed for child molestation were he to be in this country.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 7:54:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Scythian

Everybody has a blind spot. No exceptions.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 7:54:38 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: dangus
leave Beck alone on this. There’s no accounting for spiritual perception, particularly when someone has straightened his life out so much after joining a given sect.

Amen!

9 posted on 10/26/2009 7:54:45 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Scythian
I've often wondered that myself. Since we are constantly being called racists for disliking obama’s policies, it seams the Beck would want to distance himself from a religion founded by a man who claimed the black people were descendants of Cain.
10 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:21 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Scythian

Personally I don’t care what his religious beliefs are as long as he isn’t an islamderthal head hunter. Mormons aren’t running around hacking people’s heads off that I’m aware of.

There are probably more believers in UFOs than there are Mormons. It doesn’t matter to me unless they call me a bigot for not voting for Mitt Romney.


11 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Scythian
Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

How about --- maybe he is right and you are wrong?

12 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:36 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Scythian

His religious beliefs are irrelevant to me.


13 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: AppyPappy

As a matter of faith is he required to believe the religious text of your choosing?

When he has come forward and said it was the/his Mormon faith that got him clean and sober and turned his life around who are we to question? I could care less if you worship a Pepsi can as long as you’re a decent, respectable, productive citizen.

Who are you to judge when we have a guaranteed freedom of religion?


14 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:54 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Scythian

A co-worker asked me last year “how can someone as intelligent as you not be a ‘progressive’?” I refrained from responding “because I’m intelligent enough to not be one.”

The same reasoning may apply to your question.
(No, I’m not judging Mormonism either way, just commenting on the nature of such questions.)


15 posted on 10/26/2009 7:56:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Obamacare violates the 4th Amendment.)
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To: Scythian

his faith is his faith and his business , his investigating and reporting effects us all and is doing a great job too.

I couldn’t care less about his religion but it does seem in the mormon religion they have not been infested with liberals like many of us in the christian religion.

The homos and the left targeted our churches many years ago. they placed their people in our churches to get us to think that being homo was alright.
Even on here a woman who says she goes to church every week and helps out said she has no problem with homos because she knew a guy at church who told her how he wanted to be left alone and to love in peace.

she bought the crap form him and it seems mormons have not.

Look at the catholic church in the north east where they hardly ever speak against abortion and homos and they vote for the Dems.

I say keep on getting the word out about this white house and it ism up to us to tell everyone we meet and who we know about what is really going on instead of moaning on the likes of here and the staying silent on the issues as some do not want to offend or be called a name


16 posted on 10/26/2009 7:56:38 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Scythian
I also am a fan of Glenn Beck....

The theology and worldview of LDS is NOT challenged from within....

A little critical thinking, thorough research and apologetic methodology enable objective comparisons...

That's all I have to say about that..... atm

17 posted on 10/26/2009 7:56:40 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: greyfoxx39; Colofornian

ping


18 posted on 10/26/2009 7:57:38 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Scythian

Almost every single religion looks strange and cultish when viewed from the outside, yet, for someone on the inside of said religion, it seems perfectly sane and logical. Viewing things from the inside, one has trouble understanding how people view it differently from the outside. It is all a matter of perspective.

(I’m not LDS, this is just a general statement).


19 posted on 10/26/2009 7:57:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Scythian
I have wondered the same thing myself but if Mormonism has enabled him to turn his life around then it has been a good thing. He may come to other realizations later on, right now I am grateful for what he has uncovered. Go Glen Go!
20 posted on 10/26/2009 7:57:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Scythian

In all likelihood he has his own questions about Mormonism, but that is his problem.


21 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:18 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Scythian

Any religion seems idiotic to an outsider. Yours too.


22 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:25 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Scythian

Does he tell you to become a Mormon? Or does he tell you to look for the answers and the truth, especially in the political sphere. As far as I can tell that’s as much as any of us can do.

BTW, I am not a Mormon.


23 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:34 AM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: Scythian

First of all, you’re going to find that mormons are on your side 98 percent of the time in the cultural and political wars, so you’d better get used to it.

Secondly, you’re never going to agree with everyone on everything, its pointless to insist that everyone be lock-step on matters of philosophy or faith. So learn to agree when you agree and disagree respectfully when you disagree with a 98% friend.

I doubt I agree with anyone on this board 100% on anything, I’m not sure I even agree with myself 100% of the time. Its not required.

In any case, your faith walk is a journey. You don’t have the understanding today that you will have 10 years from now, I don’t care who you are. Grant others that same grace.


24 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:36 AM PDT by marron
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To: Scythian

Let Glenn Beck believe what he wants. Everyone has a private reality when it comes to spiritual matters.

And they’re entitled to it, unless they jam it down everyone else’s throat (some “creationists” come to mind).


25 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:41 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: cripplecreek
It doesn’t matter to me unless they call me a bigot for not voting for Mitt Romney.

You are in good company. I am a Mormon and I wouldn't vote for him either.

26 posted on 10/26/2009 7:59:17 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Scythian

My position is that Beck simply doesn’t know what is in the Book of Mormon.

The only thing he knows about it is what he has been told... with the exception of reading from it in very small bits and pieces which fails to put it into it’s full context.

Human loyalties are not always based upon truth, but rather by action. No doubt that when Beck was at his low point in life, the Mormons somehow brought him through it, and Beck loves them for that, and simply refuses to scrutinize their doctrines... otherwise, I’m sure that he would certainly recognize the inconsistencies.

Unfortunately, while he is successfully making a serious difference in the political war, he is failing to make a dent in the spiritual one. The two are related.

You may have noticed that he doesn’t spend very much time if any speaking about the benefits of mormonism... and pretty much keeps it to himself.

I say its because he simply hasn’t scrutinized it like he has done with Obama.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 7:59:30 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Scythian

Don’t start up with this crap.


28 posted on 10/26/2009 7:59:32 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Scythian
Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

You're just nutz and Glenn Beck is bizarre.

The rest of us are okay though.

29 posted on 10/26/2009 8:00:04 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Scythian

In a way we need to leave the Book of Mormon out of the conversation, not that I believe it is the Word of God. When asked about those preaching in His name, although they were not given the authority to do so... Plus Glenn just said he believed Jesus was the Savior of the World. There most definitely is some stuff in Mormonism that is just plain weird to my conservative, evangelical Christian mind, but Glenn is NOT AGAINST GOD OR JESUS.

The following are quotes:

Matthew 12:30 NIV
(30) “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.

Mark 9:40 NIV
(40) for whoever is not against us is for us.

The man who was “not against Christ” in Mark 9:38-39, was for Him. He operated in Jesus name, and did work for Jesus. Thus,when you’re not against Christ, you are for Him, and that means you are doing His work, and are publicly claiming to operate by the authority of His name. Someone who admits he is not a believer in or follower of Christ, and who is not doing His work in His name, is not “neutral”. That person is against Christ.

Both verses prove you are either for or against Christ. Those who are not with Him are against Him. Those who are not against Him are for Him, and are making that known by doing His work and claiming the authority of His name. In either case, you are either for or against Christ. There is no “neutral”.

(the above explanation is not mine, but I thought is was a good one)


30 posted on 10/26/2009 8:00:09 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Scythian

Some of the Founders were Deists- I’m not, but I’d take pretty much any of the Founders over most anyone in Congress now.


31 posted on 10/26/2009 8:00:40 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: rabscuttle385
His religious beliefs are irrelevant to me.

Ditto.

32 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:04 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I know the tree by its fruits.

By and large, Mormons are an honest, clean, decent, industrious and patriotic lot.


33 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 277 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Scythian

Is he preaching Mormonism on his show?

No?

Good.


34 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:17 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Scythian

...because Glenn Beck hasn’t fact-checked the Book of Mormon as thoroughly as he’s fact-checking the Obama czars.


35 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:26 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Scythian
Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

Every Mormon I have ever met is extremely hard-working, bright, conservative and alcohol-free. Beyond that, I won't address whether you are nuts.

36 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Scythian

Some of the smartest folks in the world are atheist.

Seems that smart and right don’t always jibe on matters of faith.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: Scythian
Maybe he accepts it as a matter of faith . If some one wants to defend any religion based on logic and proof , and without relying on sacred scriptures bring it on .
38 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:49 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Scythian
Any Christian knows that the book... is severely flawed and that ... was no prophet

Your premise is so deeply flawed it is incredible. If you are a Christian, unless you are a practicing Catholic, then you have adopted teachings beyond the basic foundation of Christian belief. Does that make your beliefs deeply flawed? By your own standards it does. Of course from the perspective of your personal faith, your beliefs are not flawed, so you yourself are a contradiction to your own standards. So what is flawed, your belief system or the artificial standard that you have created?

39 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:10 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: boomop1

Yeah, I thought SP take on Mormonism was dead on. And in the end it summed it up-— yeah, it’s all a little nutty and fantastical (what religion isn’t?), but if you get past the silly superstition and myth and use the philosophy within to guide your life in a positive way for yourself and those around you, what’s the problem?


40 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:28 AM PDT by metalcor
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To: Dan(9698)
How about --- maybe he is right and you are wrong?

Damn good question

41 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:54 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Scythian
-- am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre? --

I don't think you're nuts. To answer the bigger question, each of us is human, and imperfect. Many (probably all) humans have one or more "weird" beliefs or belief systems - no two humans have the same mind or thought process. I don't give a second thought to Beck's Mormonism, nor to Romney's.

If they were practicing Muslims, I would not trust them, but I harbor no such prejudice against Mormons.

42 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Glen Beck’s opinion about the state of this Country is shared by nearly all Mormons. Of course there is Sen.Harry Reid and his like within the Mormon community, but they are a small minority.


43 posted on 10/26/2009 8:03:08 AM PDT by balticbeau
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To: Scythian

Valid question. 1st) He married into it I think. Obviously if he turned his investigative powers towards Mormonism it wouldnt last a week. But he wont since his wife is Mormon. Maybe someday though.....


44 posted on 10/26/2009 8:03:50 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: All

Popcorn popper to full military power...


45 posted on 10/26/2009 8:04:04 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: kbennkc
If some one wants to defend any religion based on logic and proof , and without relying on sacred scriptures bring it on .

I ain't even gonna try, because there is a leap of faith required in many areas that goes beyond any logic and proof that I can muster.

46 posted on 10/26/2009 8:04:28 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Scythian

Almost everyone coming to a personal realization of God simply accepts their surrounding family and cultural norms. Very few are willing to delve deeply, because simple rationality isn’t enough and emotional experiences simply aren’t trustworthy. Having to invent for oneself a new way of thinking about spirituality is just too much for most.


47 posted on 10/26/2009 8:04:47 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Scythian
I could care less if he cuts the heads off chickens in his spare time, as long as he keeps exposing the truth about the zero and his commie minions.
48 posted on 10/26/2009 8:05:10 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Scythian

I have listened to Beck since 2001.

There is no doubt in my mind that this man has a relationship with Jesus Christ. THAT is what matters most to God, so far be it for me to judge a damn thing.

but if you want to spend precious time worrying about this, rather than ACORN, union thugs, corruption, Marxism, war, terror, unemployment, debt, dollar plummeting etc, God Bless ya!


49 posted on 10/26/2009 8:05:15 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Scythian

Before we try to explain Beck’s blind spot re the BoM, we should try to explain his blind spot re Mitt Romney.


50 posted on 10/26/2009 8:06:05 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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