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Limbaugh Falls for Obama Thesis Hoax - But Is In No Rush to Apologize
New York Daily News ^ | Sunday, October 25th 2009 | Michael Saul

Posted on 10/26/2009 12:37:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

And still no apology.

Even when conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh runs with a fabricated story, he doesn't apologize for the error.

Limbaugh, who seizes on every opportunity to blast Obama, ended up with egg on his face when he read an Internet satire piece that claimed President Obama dissed the Constitution in his college thesis at Columbia University.

A transcript of his Friday broadcast remains Sunday at the top of Limbaugh's web page under the headline, "Obama's Disdain for Constitution: We Know He Thinks It, Don't We? When we discover a hoax, we correct it immediately."

But apologize? You betcha there's none.

Limbaugh sounded off Friday on a supposed report that Time magazine reporter Joe Klein had unearthed Obama's college thesis, titled "Aristocracy Reborn," in which he sounded off on the nation's Founding Fathers and the Constitution and the distribution of wealth.

The only problem - the report was pure fiction.

The original post with the fabricated details about Obama's college thesis was written as a satire on a humor blog. An obscure blogger, Michael Leeden, mistakenly picked it BYup, reporting the satirical post as fact, and then Limbaugh ran with it on his national radio show Friday.

Leeden has since apologized.

Limbaugh? Not so much.

In fact, he says, why the President never said what the hoax claimed, "we know he thinks it."

"So here is who we have as our president of the United States: an anti-constitutionalist man who finds it an obstacle and is finding ways around it on purpose, unconstitutionally," Limbaugh said on his show.

"Much of what he's doing is unconstitutional, and I'm waiting for the lawsuits to be filed by some of these people at some point," Limbaugh added. "How is that hope and change working out for ya, folks?"

Later in the same program, when Limbaugh learned the report was a hoax, he corrected the record, alerting listeners that the quotes from the thesis had been fabricated. But he insisted the fabricated thesis was still in line with what the president thinks.

"So I shout from the mountaintops: 'It was satire!'" Limbaugh said on the program. "But we know he (Obama) thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth."

Limbaugh said he has license to go with the fabrication because other members of the media have done this to him. "So, I can say, "I don't care if these quotes are made up," he said. "I know Obama thinks it.

"You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I've heard him say it."

The fabricated thesis pokes fun at the president's position on economic freedom.

"The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom," the satire on Obama's thesis says.

"While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy."

In a post Friday, Time's Joe Klein says the report is false.

"A report is circulating among the wingnuts that I had a peek at Barack Obama's senior thesis. It is completely false," he wrote. "I've never seen Obama's thesis. I have no idea where this report comes from--but I can assure you that it's complete nonsense."


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1 posted on 10/26/2009 12:37:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, Rush first started out reading it that it was ‘unverified’ and he was checking the source, then, before the show was over, he had already corrected the record that it wasn’t real.

The NY Daily News is playing fast and loose with the facts on this.


2 posted on 10/26/2009 12:38:49 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: nickcarraway

I guess then all the news outlets that smeared Rush on the NFL Rams deal would apologize for lying too, huh?


3 posted on 10/26/2009 12:39:32 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: nickcarraway

Personally, I like the idea of a professional admitting to and correcting an error over someone saying they are sorry.

Emotion v. substance.

No worries.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 12:39:45 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: nickcarraway

As I recall, Rush talked about the story, but he did mention that it was not sourced so he was suspicious of it.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:12 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: mnehring

You are correct, I heard him apologize also. The left never gives up with their lies.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:14 PM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: mnehring

The NY Daily News isn’t even good for the bottom of the bird cage.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: nickcarraway

They can expect their apology the minute they apologize to Rush for slandering him with unsourced quotes.

Not so funny when the shoe’s on the other food, is it, MSM? Barry?

Of coure, Barry, we’re heard the other crap you’ve spewed about the Constitution — we had no problem believing it.

Psst — by the way, I believe Rush already SAID it was satire on his show - of course, you’re only looking at the one minute clip from Media Matters.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:27 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: nickcarraway
"A report is circulating among the wingnuts that I had a peek at Barack Obama's senior thesis. It is completely false," he wrote. "I've never seen Obama's thesis..."

Lost in this contrived fit of liberal finger-pointing is the fact that no journalist has seen Obama's thesis. Or college transcripts. Or other critical aspects of Obama's life history. Yet they are more inclinded to get after Rush...

9 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:43 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: b4its2late

My thoughts as well.

Perhaps Rush should “apologize”,

as soon as he’s “made whole” over the libel that the media perpetrated on him.


10 posted on 10/26/2009 12:40:51 PM PDT by MrB (The only difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nickcarraway

But the left kept saying that it was the seriousness of the allegation that was important.


11 posted on 10/26/2009 12:41:03 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nickcarraway

Rush Limbaugh is not on the air Saturday or Sunday and is off today.

When the Left makes up facts, they are “fake but accurate” (National Guard memos, Rush “wikiquotes”...) but when they Left trolls hoaxes to the right, it is THEIR OWN FAULT for not fully vetting the story.

The MSM routinely buries retractions within the paper rather than putting them on the front page.


12 posted on 10/26/2009 12:41:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: nickcarraway

He got spoofed, and as soon as he knew it, he said so.

Thats more than the frauds on the left have done. They invent quotes that he never said and they don’t even retract them, much less apologize.


13 posted on 10/26/2009 12:42:28 PM PDT by marron
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To: nickcarraway
I don't think Rush was duped. Here was Rush on Friday:

Rush himself on Friday: "However, I have had this happen to me recently. I have had quotes attributed to me that were made up, and when it was pointed out to the media that the quotes were made up, they said, “It doesn’t matter! We know Limbaugh thinks it anyway.”

Money quote. Fake but accurate. What's the frequency Kenneth?

14 posted on 10/26/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: mnehring

I haven’t listened to Rush in the past several days, but my guess would be that he was probably engaging in some dry humor and ironic play based on the press’ recent activities in attributing racist remarks to Rush that he never said (in relation to the NFL controversy). The press treats Limbaugh in the same way this article claims that Rush is treating Obama, “We know he thinks it”, so it’s OK to attribute fictional quotes to him.


15 posted on 10/26/2009 12:42:45 PM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: ohiogrammy

I should also point out that FReepers caught that it was a hoax pretty quickly, mostly because the source is a known bogus one.


16 posted on 10/26/2009 12:42:58 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

NY Daily News just doesn’t ‘get it’ at all, do they?


17 posted on 10/26/2009 12:43:30 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: nickcarraway
Rush should hang out more at FR and develop a FReeper’s sense how to sniff out Onion-like material.
18 posted on 10/26/2009 12:43:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Mr. Flyingsaucerballoonboymediawhoreman - this Bud's for you!)
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To: ohiogrammy
You are correct, I heard him apologize also. The left never gives up with their lies.

They are claiming that it is still on the website.

Lies by omission, as the writer is doing here, are lies too.

19 posted on 10/26/2009 12:44:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: nickcarraway

If media matters/soros or moveon.soros says it it must be true.

Pray for America’s Freedom


20 posted on 10/26/2009 12:45:01 PM PDT by bray (Hope and Corruption)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, I was listening that day, and Rush started with the “I know he thinks it” stuff after referencing Dan Rather’s “well I know the story is true, even though the evidence was false”. He’s just throwing back at the libs what the libs are throwing at him. I love it.


21 posted on 10/26/2009 12:45:08 PM PDT by mudblood
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To: dirtboy; nickcarraway
Lost in this contrived fit of liberal finger-pointing is the fact that no journalist has seen Obama's thesis. Or college transcripts. Or other critical aspects of Obama's life history.

Worth repeating.

He is the man who never was.

22 posted on 10/26/2009 12:45:28 PM PDT by marron
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To: Elvina
The press treats Limbaugh in the same way this article claims that Rush is treating Obama, “We know he thinks it”, so it’s OK to attribute fictional quotes to him.

Exactly. Planned from the start, IMO.

23 posted on 10/26/2009 12:46:47 PM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: nickcarraway

The real-life thesis which nobody has seen is probably scarier than any satire someone could come up with.


24 posted on 10/26/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by jpl
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To: marron

BTTT


25 posted on 10/26/2009 12:48:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: nickcarraway
Hey Michael Saul how about you publishing, if there is such a thing, as BamaKennedy’s thesis, and then we can discuss the possibility of an apology being required.
26 posted on 10/26/2009 12:48:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: nickcarraway

I think this crap was cooked up for no other hope than that Rush might read it. And I think it’s because the left knew they got burned on all that WikiFootballGate stuff and they wanted to counter it.

They did a good job, I have to say. I also did believe it.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 12:49:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: nickcarraway
Actual Rush quotes from Friday's show:

So we have to hold out the possibility that this is not accurate. However, I have had this happen to me recently. I have had quotes attributed to me that were made up, and when it was pointed out to the media that the quotes were made up, they said, "It doesn't matter! We know Limbaugh thinks it anyway." Sort of like Dan Rather said, "I don't care if these documents are forged. I know that Bush did what he did at the National Guard. I don't care if the documents are forged." I don't care if the Limbaugh quotes are made up. So, I can say, "I don't care if these quotes are made up. I know Obama thinks it. You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I've heard him say it." Not about the Constitution, but about the Supreme Court. Again, 2001, FM radio station interview in Chicago when he was a state senator in Illinois.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I'm also told that the blog containing the passage on Obama's thesis is a satire blog. So it's one of these sites like ScrappleFace or The Onion or some such thing. So I shout from the mountaintops: "It was satire!" But we know he thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth. He's mad at the courts for not going far enough on it. So we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway. That's how it works in the media today.

28 posted on 10/26/2009 12:49:17 PM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (BHO is the Nation's first Post Accomplishment President. - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: nickcarraway
How can he apologize for his having read a falsified thesis - when the current 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue occupant has never released his thesis?
For all we know the version Mr. Limbaugh read is correct. Or not.

Easy solution - release the documents.

Amazing, nearly 10 months into this fellow's administration, and his past is still shrouded in a haze, and his Birth Certificate, passport information, College records, etc, are all under lock and key...
And nary a peep from our vaunted watchdog media.

29 posted on 10/26/2009 12:49:29 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: nickcarraway

We know that this was satire to begin with but why is this reporter focused on Rush. It seems to me the real story is what is in Obama’s actual transcript and why he has chosen not to release it. We would have answers to these questions but for the simple fact that the MSM is terrified of knowing the answers.


30 posted on 10/26/2009 12:51:43 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: mnehring

I was just going to post the same thing. He acknowledged it wasn’t real. As you stated, he warned up front that it might not be. There’s no need to apologize.

The poor left in this nation, they can’t grasp the simplest of concepts. Rush didn’t do anything wrong but must apologize within days. Dan Rather does something he acknowledges was wrong and has yet to apologize years later.

Rush gets unfairly slimed, and Rather is unfairly given a pass.

The left knows what it is doing. It’s brain dead, but it is pushing an agenda, the destruction of Limbaugh.

If this were happening from our side, we would criticize it. The left just jumps in and bathes in it.


31 posted on 10/26/2009 12:51:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t see any references to the Obama thesis on Rush’s page today.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

but the media doesn’t write about Rush to take him to task for any abuses or to correct any mistakes. They write to slur him to an audience that never listens to him to ensure that they never DO give him any audience time.


32 posted on 10/26/2009 12:52:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: nickcarraway

And what’s there to apologize for? As this inane article points out, he DID correct the record — the same day that the error occurred!


33 posted on 10/26/2009 12:56:03 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: mnehring
The NY Daily News is playing fast and loose with the facts on this.

I believe the technical term is lying.
34 posted on 10/26/2009 1:01:50 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: nickcarraway

He didn’t fall for this. He said it was not checked.


35 posted on 10/26/2009 1:03:50 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: El Cid

As soon as I heard “Columbia University thesis” I became suspicious since I’ve never seen any credible evidence that Zer0 ever matriculated there. And I’m sure Rush was skeptical for the same reason.

When he started reading from it and the prose sounded like it came from a literate, albeit radical, person I became even more skeptical. What I’ve seen of Hussein’s writing (his, not some ghostwriter’s) is so stilted and clumsy that it is scarcely readable.


36 posted on 10/26/2009 1:04:30 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: nickcarraway

Y’all need to Freep the poll. 71% are saying Rush LIED, which honest people know he did not lie.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 1:04:59 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: nickcarraway

odumbo refused to release his records and also fails to apologize


38 posted on 10/26/2009 1:05:10 PM PDT by italianquaker (“Every inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.” --- Michelle Malkin)
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RUSH: In the first hour of this program, I cited a statement that Michael Ledeen found on the blog Jumping in Pools reporting on Obama’s college thesis written when he was at Columbia. The paper was called “Aristocracy Reborn,” and in the first ten pages Obama wrote the following: “[T]he Constitution allows for many things but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believe the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.” Now, I got a note from a researcher who has been scouring the Internet, and the note says this:

“Rush Limbaugh: Mini-warning on these quotes.” Because the paper that Obama wrote, “Aristocracy Reborn,” the first ten pages were all that reporter Joe Klein was permitted to see; and it says here that Klein did write about it for TIME Magazine. A researcher has been scouring the Internet and can’t find any sources for the quote. “The blog that Ledeen cites doesn’t have supporting info,” supposedly. The source post that was from August, says it’s going to be in an upcoming report from Joe Klein, but the researcher can’t find anything that has come out since, and nothing in Klein’s blog. There have been no matches found on the Internet for any of the info or quotes other than the source posting. So I now say that the blog from which this came has no sourcing data other than Joe Klein upcoming report and Joe Klein hasn’t written his upcoming report.

So we have to hold out the possibility that this is not accurate. However, I have had this happen to me recently. I have had quotes attributed to me that were made up, and when it was pointed out to the media that the quotes were made up, they said, “It doesn’t matter! We know Limbaugh thinks it anyway.” Sort of like Dan Rather said, “I don’t care if these documents are forged. I know that Bush did what he did at the National Guard. I don’t care if the documents are forged.” I don’t care if the Limbaugh quotes are made up. So, I can say, “I don’t care if these quotes are made up. I know Obama thinks it. You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I’ve heard him say it.” Not about the Constitution, but about the Supreme Court. Again, 2001, FM radio station interview in Chicago when he was a state senator in Illinois.

OBAMA 2001: If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that, uh, I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and — and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be okay. But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.

RUSH: Now, he’s talking about the Warren Court “never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth.” So we’ve got a supposed piece from his college thesis at Columbia where he complains that the Constitution didn’t talk about the distribution of wealth. So we know that it’s on his mind. So even if he didn’t say it, I know he thinks it. That’s how it works now in the media. And I do know he thinks it because I just heard what I heard, and so did you. Let’s see.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I’m also told that the blog containing the passage on Obama’s thesis is a satire blog. So it’s one of these sites like ScrappleFace or The Onion or some such thing. So I shout from the mountaintops: “It was satire!” But we know he thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth. He’s mad at the courts for not going far enough on it. So we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway. That’s how it works in the media today.

END TRANSCRIPT


39 posted on 10/26/2009 1:05:50 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: nickcarraway

c’mon, he did it deliberately to tweak the media...it’s brilliant!


40 posted on 10/26/2009 1:07:03 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mnehring

I figured as much.

And notice no one on the left asks where’s the thesis?

Just as they don’t ask where’s the $12.50 longform birth certificate?

But we have some person of no substance calling others “wingnuts”.

Lots of name-calling and no search for the facts is what characterizes the leftist media.


41 posted on 10/26/2009 1:08:26 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: italianquaker

What about that thesis from Mrs 0 that was making the rounds of the web? I sure hope that was a fake because it sounded like it was written by a grade school student!


42 posted on 10/26/2009 1:11:39 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Sloth; Elvina
Planned from the start, IMO.

One must listen to Rush very carefully. The MSM does not! To those who do pay attention, the MSM looks very foolish and hypocritical. Rush's playing with the MSM gets him a lot of notoriety, but it seems like it take years to set the record straight about what actually happened when he does stuff like this. The issue of the phoney soldier remark was resolved rather quickly, but the McNabb thing still has some legs.

43 posted on 10/26/2009 1:13:44 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: nickcarraway

The idiotic Left is falling yet again for Rush’s giant setup. Rush knew all along the story was false, yet he went along pretending it was true. Only to “discover” later that it wasn’t but still maintaining his original point because we know Obama thinks those thoughts in his head anyway. Actual facts do not matter. What matters is what we KNOW to be true.

Illustrating absurdity by being absurd. Fantastically done, Rush ! :)


44 posted on 10/26/2009 1:15:02 PM PDT by libh8er
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I don’t exactly see what the problem is... He REPORTED it as un-verified...and when it was found out to be a hoax he reported that immediately...

it SOUNDS so much like Obama it could be true...

Screw your ‘apology’

I have a feeling if he DOES offer an ‘apology’ it will be scathing and worse than any perceived injury they already see...


45 posted on 10/26/2009 1:17:19 PM PDT by Mr. K (My biggest fear is that one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: nickcarraway

Ironic ... In his own words Obama admitted his father was a British citizen. Therefore Obama lacks the pure allegiance and jurisdiction required at birth to be a natural born citizen. Yet, Limbaugh only touched that topic casually with a bit of tongue in cheek. The university thesis, on the other hand, warranted broader commentary with less supporting evidence? Huh? I love Rush ... I just don't always understand his logic. He'd have been less ridiculed going out on a limb for the natural born citizenship issue than for this one.


46 posted on 10/26/2009 1:22:43 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: nickcarraway

Michael Saul, New York Daily News is so gay/metrosexual

47 posted on 10/26/2009 1:25:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: nickcarraway

Rush played a clip of Obama saying those things about the constitution and redsitributing wealth.

He also said there was not a source for the “news” article so he couldn’t say it was real but we all know that Obama wants to do those things


48 posted on 10/26/2009 1:27:52 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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To: nickcarraway

The story was fake but accurate.


49 posted on 10/26/2009 1:28:49 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: nickcarraway
Limbaugh, who seizes on every opportunity to blast Obama, ended up with egg on his face when he read an Internet satire piece that claimed President Obama dissed the Constitution in his college thesis at Columbia University.

As has already been posted, Rush had first said he wasn't sure about it and then, on the same show announced that it wasn't true.

However, the best way to prove it's false is to produce Obama's real thesis at Columbia University.

Still waiting...

50 posted on 10/26/2009 1:29:07 PM PDT by RJL
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