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McChrystal's plan overreaches, Kerry says
UPI ^ | Oct. 26, 2009

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:14:02 PM PDT by presidio9

U.S. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal's troop request for Afghanistan overreaches and is overly fast, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said Monday.

Kerry said three conditions -- sufficient Afghan troops, reliable local assistance and sufficient development aid -- must be met before additional troops could be deployed to the country, The Hill reported.

"I am convinced from my conversations with Gen. Stanley McChrystal that he understands the necessity of conducting a smart counterinsurgency in a limited geographic area," Kerry said in a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. "But I believe his current plan reaches too far, too fast."

Kerry, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he may eventually support a troop surge despite his concerns.

"Under the right circumstances, if we can be confident that military efforts can be sustained and built upon, then I would support the president should he decide to send some additional troops to regain the initiative," Kerry said.

Kerry also ripped former Vice President Dick Cheney for accusing President Barack Obama of "dithering" on the troop decisions. Cheney said Obama's lack of a decision so far was endangering troops.

"After eight years of neglecting Afghanistan as vice president, Dick Cheney has now come out of retirement to criticize President Obama for taking time to examine assumptions before sending troops into war," Kerry said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 10/26/2009 7:14:03 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

General Kerry? Was he for the Iraq surge ? No


2 posted on 10/26/2009 7:15:21 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: presidio9

I guess the plan isn’t “French-looking” enough to suit Kerry’s tastes.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 7:16:27 PM PDT by hometoroost (Time to bust the nut - stamp out ACORN)
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To: scooby321

Kerry would like to win slowly with maximum casualties if at all possible.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 7:16:35 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: presidio9

He was in Vietnam, you know....


5 posted on 10/26/2009 7:17:15 PM PDT by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: presidio9

Hey Kerry, blow it out your barracks bag.
You do know what I’m talking about,they had those
in Cambodia too.

God, that man makes me sick, here he is trying to
cover himself like a cat covering crap.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 7:17:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: presidio9

Get our brave troops out now. America deserves what it gets for electing these cowardly pukes.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 7:17:56 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat rescue officer's dad,)
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To: presidio9
Great!

The negotiator in Paris for the PAVN and NLF now represents the Taliban.

Mr. Kerry; do you really want 100,000 angry soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, denied a victory, and upset with YOU?

8 posted on 10/26/2009 7:19:16 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

WTF does Jean F’ing Kerry know about warfare of any kind?

Oh I forgot! He served in Vietnam and got his sorry upper class @ss evac’d eight months sooner than mine did!


9 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:01 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: presidio9

So, is Kerry claiming that Gen. Stanley McChrystal is ‘failing’ some kind of ‘global test’?

Or is Kerry just being his usual ass-like self?


10 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:36 PM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: scooby321
General Kerry? Was he for the Iraq surge ? No?

Non!


11 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: clintonh8r
He was in Vietnam, you know....

And I'd wager he told McCrystal just that.

12 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:52 PM PDT by digger48
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To: presidio9
"I am convinced from my conversations with Gen. Stanley McChrystal that he understands the necessity of conducting a smart counterinsurgency in a limited geographic area," Kerry said...

I'm sure McChrystal is delighted to get the buyin of such an exalted geostrategic thinker as John F'n Kerry. What this clown would do for a living if he weren't a politician I really can't imagine. I hope it wouldn't involve sharp objects.

13 posted on 10/26/2009 7:21:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: clintonh8r

He served in VN, who knew?


14 posted on 10/26/2009 7:21:16 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: lookout88
That may be the only answer. If they refuse to help with a win , we have no choice . We cannot allow our military personal be reduced to sitting ducks..
15 posted on 10/26/2009 7:21:40 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: presidio9
Kerry's one of those Joint Chiefs who rolled his own.

Christmas Eve, 1968, on orders from President Nixon, deep inside Cambodia, his face blackened, his sweaty hands gripping his grenade launcher, poised to shoot himself in the ass.

And to think Christopher Reeve would have won Dancing With The Stars had John Kerry been elected President.

We're in great hands with the Kenyan Boy King and his Whiz Kids running General Motors, the Fed, the Pentagon.


16 posted on 10/26/2009 7:21:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: presidio9

Genghis Kerry?


17 posted on 10/26/2009 7:22:52 PM PDT by Ben Reyes (Chuck Devore for US Senate California 2010 and Palin for President 2012)
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To: presidio9

He should know. He’s a professional military man...sarc/ The coward of the Navy.


18 posted on 10/26/2009 7:23:09 PM PDT by RC2
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To: presidio9
Kerry is still looking for an opportunity to prosecute the “smarter” war that he proposed during his 2004 campaign. He is still an idiot.
19 posted on 10/26/2009 7:23:46 PM PDT by USMA '71 ((Re-elect no one!))
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To: hometoroost

I have more respect for the French then Kerry or odumbo


20 posted on 10/26/2009 7:23:49 PM PDT by italianquaker (“Every inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.” --- Michelle Malkin)
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To: presidio9

Geee doffus (Kerry that is) if you send in the additional troops, then all of those conditions will be met.

>>>>>>>>> Kerry said three conditions — sufficient Afghan troops, reliable local assistance and sufficient development aid — must be met before additional troops could be deployed to the country, The Hill reported. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Fail to send in the additional troops, and we will be sent packing...


21 posted on 10/26/2009 7:24:58 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: presidio9
From the Douche Bag nozzle that's better at throwing medals than earning them......

Typical DemonRat....afraid of winning

22 posted on 10/26/2009 7:25:03 PM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; scooby321
When, oh when, will UPI and AP and Reuters and CNN and the NYT come clean and just admit that the White House is waiting until after the New Jersey gubernatorial election, which is essentially a referendum on nationalized health care? Perhaps they're all fearful now of being cut out of the White House press loop. Heck even Fox News hasn't pointed out the link to the NJ election. Cheney didn't mention NJ specifically, but that was part of what he meant when he used the word “dithering.” Meanwhile, if even one more American soldier makes the ultimate sacrifice so a total sleaze like Jon Corzine can get elected and Robert Gibbs can point to that result and tell blue dog constituencies around the nation that socialized medicine has legs, it will be remembered as one of the most disgraceful episodes in American political history.
23 posted on 10/26/2009 7:25:28 PM PDT by presidio9 ("All right then. I'll go to hell." -Huckleberry Finn)
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To: presidio9
Kerry's taking the fall for Obama because Kerry has nothing to lose. If the situation deteriorates in Afghanistan, the administration will blame him and continue the slow bleed.
24 posted on 10/26/2009 7:26:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: presidio9



25 posted on 10/26/2009 7:27:01 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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"...if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."-J.F. Kerry

"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/chavez042804.asp
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June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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The Black Panthers were revolutionary communists...

From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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John Kerry and the VVAW--Hanoi's American Puppets?
"Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets
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Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) Complete FBI files:
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI

26 posted on 10/26/2009 7:27:05 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: presidio9

Senator Kerry that served in Vietnam!


27 posted on 10/26/2009 7:27:49 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: scooby321

General Kerry exactly. What was his final rank Major Dumbass or General Fu%kup.

OK, let’s march out the idiot brigade. Kerry and Biden, two of the biggest idiots around. He was stupid 9 years ago and he is stupid now with his alky old lady.


28 posted on 10/26/2009 7:28:07 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: italianquaker

That’s not saying much is it?


29 posted on 10/26/2009 7:28:19 PM PDT by hometoroost (Time to bust the nut - stamp out ACORN)
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To: presidio9

McChrystal's plan overreaches, Kerry says.

Hey, Kerry, just jot down your recommendations on the back of a copy of your SF 180 and send it to us.

30 posted on 10/26/2009 7:32:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: presidio9

Isn’t Kerry the person who ordered his men to take HIS boat away from the action in Viet Nam and go back DOWN the river away from the fighting?

When did he get any military training?

He is nothing but treasonous—from his hair to his toenails.

I feel very badly for General McCrystal who has been put in harm’s way with this Administration.


31 posted on 10/26/2009 7:32:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: presidio9

Maybe ABC can put Kerry on “Dancing With The Stars” because all his bloviating is nothing more than verbal tap-dancing.


32 posted on 10/26/2009 7:33:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: PhilDragoo

33 posted on 10/26/2009 7:33:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: fantom

Yep, it is the answer. I prefer America to learn the hard way, then let one more brave son protect the cowardly and the socialists.


34 posted on 10/26/2009 7:33:58 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat rescue officer's dad,)
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To: presidio9

I consider Senator Kerry one of the lesser authorities on military tactics and/or strategy.
His dealings with the enemy in the ‘70s continue to disgust me.
He needs to STFU and butt out of military business.


35 posted on 10/26/2009 7:34:18 PM PDT by rogator
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To: presidio9
"I am convinced from my conversations with Gen. Stanley McChrystal that he understands the necessity of conducting a smart counterinsurgency in a limited geographic area," Kerry said in a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. "But I believe his current plan reaches too far, too fast."

One of the difficulties with this war is that there is no limit to the geographic area. Sure, there may be active fronts, but the war exists everywhere at once from New York City and Washington to the poppy fields of Afghanistan. Since our enemy is not a nation state which can be defeated in place, but rather an ideology driving mobile international organizations we cannot limit ourselves geographicly because our enemies will not.

36 posted on 10/26/2009 7:36:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: presidio9

“Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s troop request for Afghanistan overreaches and is overly fast, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass”

And of *course* a guy who was elected to the Senate on platform of gutting military spending would know better how to fight a war than a General with 33 years experience, including stints in the Special Forces and Military Intelligence. /sarcasm

What an arrogant son-of-a-BLEEP! /absolutely no sarcasm on this one.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 7:38:45 PM PDT by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: khnyny

38 posted on 10/26/2009 7:43:07 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: lookout88

One guesses that you don’t care then about the thousands that would be butchered at the hands of the Taliban.

We committed that national disgrace once after abandoning South Vietnam.

And you’d have it done again?


39 posted on 10/26/2009 7:46:07 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: presidio9

“Under the right circumstances, if we can be confident that military efforts can be sustained and built upon, then I would support the president should he decide to send some additional troops to regain the initiative,” Kerry said,
“Of course should the president decide that the military
efforts can’t be supported and sustained, then I would
support his decision to pull out in abject defeat also.

Did you know I was in Vietnam, Cambodia too, at christmas.

Kerry learned nothing in the service, but then his mind
just wasn’t into it.


40 posted on 10/26/2009 7:46:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: presidio9
said the attention whore... booo!!!


Yooo Hooo... I'm over HERE!!!
41 posted on 10/26/2009 7:49:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: onedoug

Obama is a national disgrace.


42 posted on 10/26/2009 7:52:10 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat rescue officer's dad,)
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To: presidio9

Kerry has about as much experience and knowledge of military needs as do I - which is to say, very damned little. Someone needs to put rigging tape over his mouth.


43 posted on 10/26/2009 7:53:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

“Gen.” Kerry is laying the groundwork for Zero to tell Gen. McChrystal FU.


44 posted on 10/26/2009 7:54:52 PM PDT by pankot
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To: incredulous joe
LOL. Oh man, perfect.

Kerry looks like an Austin Powers gigolo. Shagalicious baby.(not)

45 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:18 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is never a good thing.)
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To: presidio9

When politicians try to run wars - wars get lost.


46 posted on 10/26/2009 7:56:27 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: hometoroost

Thats the truth, odumbo has brought us that low


47 posted on 10/26/2009 8:00:36 PM PDT by italianquaker (“Every inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.” --- Michelle Malkin)
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To: presidio9

Kerry who?
Cheney would wipe the floor with this ‘purple heart for a bandaid cut’ idiot.


48 posted on 10/26/2009 8:08:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: presidio9

Lurch = Dominique de Villepin de Loser de Heinz


49 posted on 10/26/2009 8:24:58 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: presidio9

How the f*** would Kerry know sh** about military plans? When did he ever get past first lieutenant? Or was it second lieutenant?


50 posted on 10/26/2009 8:25:21 PM PDT by calex59 (We want our constitution back, and we will get it back.)
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