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Interstate Tesla Service Stations: Business Idea?
Vanity | 10-27-09 | Senseless vanity

Posted on 10/27/2009 6:26:23 AM PDT by dangus

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To: dangus

I meant the calculations of cost to create these 880V charging stations for a new and extremely minor part of the market


51 posted on 10/27/2009 10:07:54 AM PDT by Mr. K (I live in fear that one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: Anima Mundi
Could have timeshare cars where you don’t own the particular car but access to a pool of like cars at varous stations or bases...

There is an outfit called ZIP Cars that does just that- my son in D.C. has used them a number of times. You log on with your request and the response tells you where to pick up the vehicle. One time I drove him to the location, and there was the car sitting on a vacant lot on a side street.

52 posted on 10/27/2009 10:40:49 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ctdonath2

So then what I’m proposing is entirely possible, since there are already 480V charging devices which Tesla has already conformed its engine to. All that needs happening is the concept of a charging station.


53 posted on 10/27/2009 12:21:11 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Mr. K

>> I meant the calculations of cost to create these 880V charging stations for a new and extremely minor part of the market <<

There wouldn’t have to be a lot. Just a station every hundred miles or so along the major (2-digit) interstates. And if there’s little demand, the stations could consist of a relatively small number of outlets.


54 posted on 10/27/2009 12:23:35 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus
The Fisker Karma and Chevrolet Volt use different technology, for hybrid.
55 posted on 10/27/2009 12:33:34 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Mr. K; 1rudeboy; tx_eggman; mnehring; aMorePerfectUnion; Proud2BeRight

Turns out the only thing wrong with my notion is I didn’t know what to query for before wondering if its already being done. With the responses of some of the more helpful people (I hadn’t recalled that voltage is logarithmic) I have found out the idea is already planned for by Tesla. All that remains is to build the stations, and the demand for them.

“The Model S takes three to four hours to charge using a 240-volt outlet, or as few as 45 minutes using a 480-volt outlet.”
—Tesla Motors

So you can drive about 4 hours, grab lunch (45 minutes) at 1:00, drive 4 more, grab dinner at just before 6:00, drive 4 more and drive from Washington to Chicago in one day at 60 mph.

The stations need only be on major (numbered with 2 digits) interstates, and the size of the stations could be very highly scalable.


56 posted on 10/27/2009 12:40:59 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus

My guess is the electric car will make most of its impact as a commuter vehicle, not as a cruiser.

And this presumes that the price of electricity under
Crap N Tax will be reasonable relative to petroleum fuels.

Issues like this are why business in the US is so bad.
Nobody can plan what economics will be like after the Baraqqi surge is completed.


57 posted on 10/27/2009 12:53:54 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

I agree the primary use of such a car is for commuting. But the truth is that regular folks don’t distinguish so sharply between cruisers and commuter vehicles. Any vehicle which is strictly one or the other would flop in the market, especially one that costs so much and relies on heavy usage to be cost effective.


58 posted on 10/27/2009 12:57:20 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: truth_seeker

Yes, and that’s why I only mentionned Tesla. But my guess is that given the fuel savings, when people stop at the internet rest stops for meals, they’ll probably want to juice up their Fisker, too.

The Volt is increasingly facing long odds.


59 posted on 10/27/2009 12:59:25 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus

So, you want to build infrastructure for a company that has sold to date what? Maybe 1000 cars total? A service station owner could buy one of these super chargers if they could be built and live his entire life on a busy interstate and never ever even see a tesla pull into his station, let alone need a charge.

Good luck with that.


60 posted on 10/27/2009 1:01:14 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. K

Ouch.


61 posted on 10/27/2009 1:01:43 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: txhurl; dangus
Why couldn't you just mount mini wind-mills all over the car...and they charge the batteries while you are driving.

/s

62 posted on 10/27/2009 1:11:25 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: dangus

Ave 60 MPH for 4 hours on a battery that will go 220 miles?

Maybe 3 hours, leaving a little reserve before charging.

No thanks, We blast along for 350+ miles at a time then gas up in minutes and then usually dine while covering more miles.


63 posted on 10/27/2009 1:12:01 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

>> Maybe 3 hours, leaving a little reserve before chargin <<

Your math is pretty crappy. 3 hours at 60 MPH is 180 miles. The Tesla gets 220-250 Miles per tank. I cited the low end, that’s even 3:40. But there’s also a planned long-range battery that can get you 350 miles at a time. It would take a full hour to charge. If you’re going to drive 700 miles in a day, I recommend having a full meal when you take a break, not eating while you drive. In any event, I think the family that takes a total of an hour of breaks (or more) in the middle of 700 mile journey is far more typical than yours.


64 posted on 10/27/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus

Don’t give me some crappy math garbage buddy! At 220 miles, as YOU quoted in the first post I see about 3 hours of driving time before sitting idle for whatever time it takes some plug to charge the thing. Assuming a conservative 10-15% reserve, as I implied in my quote “leaving a little reserve before charging.” (unless you want to get caught dead in traffic with AC/radio/wipers consuming the last electrons) you get 187 to 198 miles. That math expert is just 3.1 to 3.3 hours of windshield time at 60 mph.

And when you have several hundred trips of 1,000+ miles behind you, you can tell me how to take breaks on long trips.


65 posted on 10/27/2009 4:15:44 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: sitetest

you makes yur vanity posts.. you takes yur chances...


66 posted on 10/28/2009 5:28:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (I live in fear that one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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