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Why we don't hate Wal-Mart anymore (Americans have new appreciation for those everyday low prices)
Fortune ^ | 10/27/2009 | Hank Gilman

Posted on 10/27/2009 7:19:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

NEW YORK (Fortune) -- It seems like only days ago that Wal-Mart was the most evil company on the planet.

The list of accusations: It locked workers in stores overnight and ignored overtime rules; it didn't give health-care benefits to a lot of workers; and its execs dreaded union organizers so much they actually shut down a store to avoid letting the labor guys in the front door.

Equality for women employees? Forget about it. That was for East Coast, Hillary-loving wimps, or Wegman's, to worry about. And then there was the part about alleged sweatshops in China. (Sam Walton, back in the day, personally hired toddlers. Right?) And let's not forget the decimation of Main Street, USA.

To be honest, even long-time Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) admirers had to admit that some of this was true. The company was a bit evil.

But that was then. Now the masses don't seem all that concerned about the biggest retailer in America stomping us all like the aliens did in Independence Day.

Let's go to the numbers. If you did a database search, which my colleague Marilyn Adamo kindly conducted for me, there were some 47 stories in 2006 with the words "evil" within ten words of a "Wal-Mart" mention. So far in 2009: only two. Of all stories with at least two mentions of Wal-Mart, there were more than 14,000 in 2006 and just under 5,000 this year.

This ain't a scientific study, by any stretch, but the numbers seem to show that the heat has been turned down. The obvious explanation is that Wall Street, proving they could be much more evil than Wal-Mart could ever be, has provided ground cover for America's second-largest company (after Exxon Mobil).

But as with anything, it's far more complicated than that.

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1 posted on 10/27/2009 7:19:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals like Wal Mart now bc they’re for amnesty for illegals, single payer healthcare...


2 posted on 10/27/2009 7:20:18 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Boiling Pots

Liberals still hate WalMart because:
1. they are a capitalist company, and
2. they make profits.

They just figured out that when the bash WalMart they are bashing a friend of the poor and middle class and the poor and middle class see them for what they are (ie rich elitists).


3 posted on 10/27/2009 7:24:47 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately we will very soon re learn to “hate” WalMart because WalMart is set to cave to Obamacare and unionize. Bank on it. WalMart will fold and go union to get into NYC now that come January ACORN’s political arm the Working Families Party has taken over the City Council. They will pass a law demanding even single employee businesses provide 5 paid sick days to workers. That will collapse thouands of small businesses and force workers and former employers to look elsewhere. That elsewhere will be big retailers like WalMart. All WalMart will have to do is cave to the SEIU and they will open their first store which will be on Staten Island, by next summer. This pattern will be repeated in every city in America because they are all run by Marxist Democrats. So the HATE of WalMart will be back.
4 posted on 10/27/2009 7:26:50 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where else would one shop? I just sent a huge box of snacks to my daughter in Seattle, because she couldn’t buy economy-size packages of trail mix, roasted peanuts, and granola bars in any of the available stores there.


5 posted on 10/27/2009 7:27:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (God is great, and wine is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: Boiling Pots

Mexi Mart


6 posted on 10/27/2009 7:29:07 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm.......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Meijer stores are my preference.


7 posted on 10/27/2009 7:30:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

....I sure love it when I go to WalMart and get my $4.00 drug prescription filled.


8 posted on 10/27/2009 7:30:50 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: SeekAndFind

I stopped shopping at WalMart when they pulled their ads from Glenn Beck in response to liberal protests.


9 posted on 10/27/2009 7:32:23 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: Sybeck1

Do you have any “white” stores to recommend? /sarc


10 posted on 10/27/2009 7:34:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NeilGus

Liberals are turning towards Walmart because Walmart is turning towards the liberals. Walmart is an innovator in “Green” technology in stores and business practices. Walmart has instigated cut rate generic perscription plan that provides drugs at socialized prices and they are incorporating gay/lesbian friendly policies while donating to all the “politically correct” causes.


11 posted on 10/27/2009 7:35:54 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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www.peopleofwalmart.com


12 posted on 10/27/2009 7:37:14 AM PDT by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Heading to Walmart at lunchtime to get my kids DS Lite!
13 posted on 10/27/2009 7:37:49 AM PDT by angcat ("GO YANKEES")
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To: SeekAndFind

I never thought Wal-Mart was “evil”, just “icky”. I didn’t start shopping there until they got self service lines. The service in the regular lines was so slow that every single time I went into a walmart I ended up leaving my item (usually only one) at the checkout and finding it somewhere else, due to the incredibly slow lines.


14 posted on 10/27/2009 7:39:29 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: SeekAndFind

I never did hate Wal Mart.


15 posted on 10/27/2009 7:39:36 AM PDT by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: SeekAndFind

no, it’s because WalMart has been strategically sucking-up to Democrats and Environmentalists ever since the tea leaves from the 2006 election became visible. The media has backed off of them as a result.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 7:43:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

i don’t know about anyone else but i am getting away from walmart for my groceries....i used to buy the walmart generic brands at a nice savings but the last few monthes they have changed all of the generic packaging to look alike and at the same time drastically raised the prices. in most cases i have found the generic items priced just below and in some cases eve higher than the brand names. this past week we shopped at aldi’s and saved at least 25.00 i think walmart has figured they sucked enough of us in to the low prices that now that they raised them most would just be content to continue shopping there.....


17 posted on 10/27/2009 7:45:00 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Rocky

I will stick with famiy dollar or target myself


18 posted on 10/27/2009 7:45:33 AM PDT by mel
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To: tatsinfla

grocery wars are like that, you have to watch prices all the time.


19 posted on 10/27/2009 7:46:28 AM PDT by tioga
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To: SeekAndFind
And the Chicoms appreciate the business...

Nothing like borrowing money from the people whose products you're purchasing...the proverbial “dog chasing his tail” comes to mind...

Forrest Gump said it best...”Stupid is as stupid does.”

20 posted on 10/27/2009 7:47:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since the jobs got outsourced, Walmart is about the only thing a lot of people can afford.

Cheap stuff is pretty expensive when all of the costs are weighed.
21 posted on 10/27/2009 7:47:29 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: SeekAndFind

Word hasn’t got to my wife, she still hates Walmart. It’s off limits for us.


22 posted on 10/27/2009 7:50:05 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Time to put up, or shut up!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The real “hatred” of WalMart started once they entered the grocery business. Most retail stores are non-union except (for some reason) groceries. When WalMart competed with KMart, Target or the “Mom and Pop” stores, their competition wasn’t unionized so the unions and their pet Dems really didn’t care much.


24 posted on 10/27/2009 7:56:51 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t hate Wal-Mart, but I did quit shopping there when they stopped selling guns and ammunition in my area because of pressure from the liberal anti-gun Nazis. That, and it’s crowded, dirty, and I stand out as a minority when I go there.


25 posted on 10/27/2009 7:57:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: NeilGus

Liberals hate walmart also because they hate the idea of the average person being able to afford to consume more and differently than they “approve” of.


26 posted on 10/27/2009 7:59:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Let’s see if they change their tune following the foreseen conservative backlash in ‘10 and ‘12.


27 posted on 10/27/2009 8:00:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: STONEWALLS
....I sure love it when I go to WalMart and get my $4.00 drug prescription filled.

I get that at my local grocery store.

28 posted on 10/27/2009 8:00:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hardastarboard
One of these days, someone will come along and identify the location of one of these allegedly crowded, dirty, smelly, overrun by "minorities" Wal-Marts. Could you be the one?
29 posted on 10/27/2009 8:01:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: awake-n-angry

I have no objection to a private company using green technology or offering cheaper prescription drugs: that is what capitalist companies do. They innovate to attract customers (heck, lower prescription prices fits the corporate model perfectly).

I personally don’t like their adopting liberal policies or contributing to ‘liberal’ causes but, again they are a private company.

What I don’t like is the government attacking them and strong arming them to toe the liberal line. But that is not WalMart’s problem, that is ours. WalMart is just responding to real environmental pressures.


30 posted on 10/27/2009 8:07:57 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: SeekAndFind

For later.


31 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:24 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our local Walmart changed over its interior. It’s a much more pleasant place to shop with wide aisles and no clutter. Very bright too.

I don’t go there regularly to shop for groceries but I do pickup a few things when I need to go get some stuff from automotive or ammo.


32 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; STONEWALLS
I'll bet you didn't get $4 Rx at your local grocery store BEFORE Walmart started their program!
33 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:38 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: 1rudeboy; Hardastarboard

Hardstarboard said, ...it’s crowded, dirty, and I stand out as a minority when I go there.

Hardstarboard, care to share the location of the Wally you described? If you don’t want to name the town, how about the state?

There are two Wal*Marts in my town. Both are bright, welcoming, clean and well maintained. And the minorities who shop there are, well, minorities.

In addition, I’ve visited Wal*Marts all over the US. A few have been a little below average. But I have never visited one like Hardstarboard described. So, got a location?


34 posted on 10/27/2009 8:18:52 AM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have almost stopped shopping at Wal-Mart. Since the big remodel they did at out store at least 1/3 of the products that used to be on the shelves are gone. The choice of brands and sizes are gone. The Mexican label shows isle side more often than not. The other products get chintzier and less reliable. Sure they take returns but when every trip required at least one thing to take back because of defects, it get’s maddening. And don’t ask an employee any question....I have heard their morning ra-ra cult employee cheer leading indoctrination meet in the back room they have. Makes me glad I don’t work there.


35 posted on 10/27/2009 8:19:19 AM PDT by Pilated
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To: Beagle8U

BUMP!

Wally was the innovator. All the rest just followed along due to Wally’s competition.

Thank goodness for $4 generics at Wally. Saves me bucks every month.


36 posted on 10/27/2009 8:21:18 AM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: Gabz

Wally ping.


37 posted on 10/27/2009 8:21:51 AM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: RobRoy

*** I didn’t start shopping there until they got self service lines. ***

I tried the self service lines and they didn’t work. They were very rarely used except for people with one or two items.

Our Walmart finally jerked them out. Now they still need to hve more checkouts open.

I NEVER had a problem when I shopped at Walton’s 5 & Dime in Bentonvile back in the late 1950’s!


38 posted on 10/27/2009 8:26:30 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (You talkin' ta me? YOU TALKIN TO ME! Well just who are you talkin' to?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Diana in Wisconsin; metesky; Mrs.Nooseman; Graybeard58; upchuck; GOP_Lady

WalMART PING!!!!!!!!!

I lost my ping list -— so please let me know if you want on or off the list, or if you remember anyone who is missing. Thanks!


39 posted on 10/27/2009 8:29:22 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: upchuck

As I’ve said before, if I avoided every store that gets bashed on FR, the only place I could shop would be the St. Vincent de Paul Thrift Store.


40 posted on 10/27/2009 8:29:24 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: upchuck; 1rudeboy; Hardastarboard

I have actually been in one of those type WalMarts -— it was in Dover, DE. I hated it and avoided it as much as possible.

Then I went with a friend to a WalMart in Milford, DE and I changed my mind about shopping in WalMart.


41 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm torn on Wally-mart. I go there for the low prices but at the same time I hate the place because you can't find an associate that speaks English (at least the one near me) and it's all Chinese made crap. Since I'm part of Obama’s “jobless recovery” I'll probably continue shopping there.
42 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:21 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Gabz

I like target a lot better than walmart.

And Best Buy has great new stores. I mourned the closure of compusa but Best Buy seems to be picking up.

Walmarts make me crazy, something about the way the stores are laid out is just nutty. And too much stuff in the shelves.


43 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:43 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Beagle8U
I'll bet you didn't get $4 Rx at your local grocery store BEFORE Walmart started their program!

Then Walmart should start a $3 program so my grocery can match their price.

44 posted on 10/27/2009 8:35:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Pilated

Sounds like what happened to the Wal-Mart here after the remodel. Store looks really nice, but the selection went completely down the tubes. One of the employees told me that they have had their hours cut back since the remodel; don’t know if that’s related or not. I do most of my grocery shopping at the other grocery in town anyway, but they’ve cut so much stuff back at Wal-Mart that I have to go online or out of town to find things.


45 posted on 10/27/2009 8:35:35 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: jmaroneps37
I work for Walmart. They will not unionize. No way No how.
46 posted on 10/27/2009 8:38:28 AM PDT by BBell
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To: Non-Sequitur
I notice that you didn't say your local store had the $4 Rx before Wallys started the program.

Sure, lots of stores have it now. But they were perfectly satisfied to keep screwing people before Walmart came out with a program to save people money.

47 posted on 10/27/2009 8:45:20 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: upchuck; HardStarboard; 1rudeboy

I’d have to nominate the Las Cruces, NM store. I’ve not been there for a few years but it fit that description at my last visit. My city’s WMs are clean, bright, busy, and visited by me about every three weeks. My problem isn’t with the store/layout/stocking, it just seems that many of its shoppers lack common courtesy or have a diminished awareness of others.


48 posted on 10/27/2009 8:46:39 AM PDT by philled (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.-- GB Shaw)
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To: SeekAndFind

By far the best ammo prices around.

They can keep all of their chinese crap though.


49 posted on 10/27/2009 8:56:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: cajungirl

I only have experiences with one Target store, and none were very good. Just like my experience with WalMart, I’m sure that one store is probably not indicative of all Targets, however the nearest one to me now is 50+ miles away and so I have not been in one in more than 6 years.


50 posted on 10/27/2009 8:57:08 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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