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Gingrich calls GOP support for Hoffman a 'purge'
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Posted on 10/27/2009 7:45:09 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Gingrich calls GOP support for Hoffman a 'purge' By Jordan Fabian - 10/27/09 09:47 AM ET

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) late Monday had some choice words for Republicans supporting Conservative Party party candidate Doug Hoffman (N.Y.), accusing them of conducting a "purge" of the GOP.

Many national Republican figures, such as Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.) and ex-Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska), have backed Hoffman over GOP candidate Dede Scozzafava in the 23rd district's special election this year. The district has been long-held by Republicans, but many conservatives have shied away from Scozzafava for her socially liberal positions and the local GOP's selection process that they say was not transparent.

Gingrich broke the mold and backed Scozzafava, saying her candidacy gave the Republicans the best shot of regaining a congressional majority. The former Speaker faced a push-back from the right after his announcement but he upped the ante on Monday.

"This idea that we're suddenly going to establish litmus tests and all across the country we're going to purge the party of anybody who doesn't agree with us 100 percent; that guarantees Obama's reelection, that guarantees Pelosi as Speaker-for-life," he told Fox News last night.

Gingrich called Scozzafava a "liberal Republican" for her support of gay marriage and abortion rights. But he defended those positions as in-step with her district and her predecessor, former Rep. John McHugh (R-N.Y.), who was tapped to be President Barack Obama's Army Secretary.

But he said that her endorsement from the National Rifle Association, her signing a no tax-increase pledge, and her opposition to cap-and-trade and healthcare reform legislation made her "adquately conservative in an upstate New York district."

Gingrich also attacked Hoffman for not having proper knowledge of local issues and living outside the 23rd district.

"So I say to many conservative friends who suddenly decided whether they're from Minnesota, or Alaska, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don't think so," he added.


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KEYWORDS: gingrich; hoffman; newt; ny23; rinopurge; scozzafava; whigpartyii
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt, leaders stand on principles, which you’ve forgotten. Get out of the way!


101 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:13 AM PDT by veracious
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To: Sub-Driver
“..that guarantees Obama’s reelection, that guarantees Pelosi as Speaker-for-life,” - typical rino drivel scare tactics.
102 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:15 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Gingrich called Scozzafava a “liberal Republican”.....

Total nonsense. She is ultra left. Loony left


103 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:21 AM PDT by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: stockpirate
“Scozzafava is the hand-picked candidate of former state GOP chairman Joseph Mondello.”

So the GOP leadership in NY is, what? Left-of-center?

Personally I don't know but the fruit of their work is certainly out for all to see.

104 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:28 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: Sub-Driver
So be it................works for me.
105 posted on 10/27/2009 8:10:59 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Sub-Driver
Give Newt credit, he can make a coherent argument.

One problem with people like Scozzafava is that their words and actions lead many to conclude that there is no real difference between the parties. They also provide regular cover for Democrats. Every obnoxious, mistaken, and liberal policy enacted will be described by the MSM as bipartisan because some “prominent” Republican will champion it. How many campaign contributions and votes are lost to the GOP because of the belief that “there's no real difference anyway”?

106 posted on 10/27/2009 8:11:19 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: Jewbacca

He is always talking about his 6th(?) wife Callista. He brings her up all the time. What a joke Newt is. Go away RINO.


107 posted on 10/27/2009 8:11:43 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Sub-Driver

“Purge” is such a strong term, Newty...I prefer a kinder, gentler term...Like, say, “enema”.


108 posted on 10/27/2009 8:11:45 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Sub-Driver

Alright Knewt, here it is. If you can’t beat em, join em.
Get on board or get left behind.
Wait. Leave that global warming baggage on the loading platform.


109 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:07 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt and the rest of the GOP “leadership” has decided that we are either with them no matter what, or we are their enemy.

They can kiss my hairy butt.


110 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Purge Newt!!!!


111 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:26 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Sub-Driver

Long overdue. Had this happened back in 2006, we’d be in a much different place right now.


112 posted on 10/27/2009 8:12:32 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin -- I love her because she freaks out all the right people.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"So I say to many conservative friends who suddenly decided whether they're from Minnesota, or Alaska, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans?"

Jealousy is so unbecoming...

113 posted on 10/27/2009 8:13:26 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sub-Driver; flaglady47; oswegodeee
Hey, Newt, you support Dede, the lib, but you don't much like Sarah, the conservative. You're creepy, man. Even Shakespeare thought so:

"Eye of newt and toe of frog
Wool of bat and tongue of dog
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing
For a charm of powerful trouble
Like a hell-broth....boil and bubble."

Happy Halloween, Gingwitch!

Leni

114 posted on 10/27/2009 8:13:45 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Sub-Driver

“This idea that we’re suddenly going to establish litmus tests and all across the country we’re going to purge the party of anybody who doesn’t agree with us 100 percent; that guarantees Obama’s reelection, that guarantees Pelosi as Speaker-for-life,” he told Fox News last night. “

If Scazzafova held conservative positions on 95%, or even 80% of the issues, that might make sense. But she is pro-abortion, pro-bailouts, pro-porkulus, pro-homosexual agenda, pro-tax hikes and endorsed by the Daily Kos. She doesn’t fail a single “litmus test”, she fails nearly all the tests.

I doubt she agrees with conservatives on even 25% of the issues. If elected, she would be far to the left of many Democrat congressmen.


115 posted on 10/27/2009 8:16:47 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Sub-Driver
Many national Republican figures, such as Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.) and ex-Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska), have backed Hoffman over GOP candidate Dede Scozzafava in the 23rd district's special election this year. The district has been long-held by Republicans, but many conservatives have shied away from Scozzafava for her socially liberal positions and the local GOP's selection process that they say was not transparent. Gingrich broke the mold and backed Scozzafava, saying her candidacy gave the Republicans the best shot of regaining a congressional majority. The former Speaker faced a push-back from the right after his announcement but he upped the ante on Monday

didn't Newt endorse before those others? Why is this reporter trying to rewrite history?

116 posted on 10/27/2009 8:18:39 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Sub-Driver

That is the mark of a statist, how dare you support someone from outside the party! You think you have a choice? What do you think this is a democratic Republic or something?


117 posted on 10/27/2009 8:20:13 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Labyrinthos

Dear Newt, the Republican party NEEDS purging! We are sick of losing elections!

We aren’t the only ones who are sick of you and your friends telling the rest of us who we should elect just because you made some back door deal!

We had to let Bob Dole run because it was ‘his time’ and John McCain was a real winner wasn’t he?!

******

Another Conservative Against Mondello

May 1, 2009

Conservative author and former Port Authority head George Marlin is out with a piece criticizing Republican State Party chair Joe Mondello’s performance and telling Republicans that if they are “to become relevant in New York’s political arena, they must dump Mondello and install a new generation of leaders committed to a philosophy of smaller government and lower taxes.”

It’s not particularly surprising that Marlin, a Conservative Party activist who has long been in the business of criticizing Republicans he sees as ideologically compromised, would say this. But his critique is in line with what some prominent local Republicans, including former Assembly Minority Leader John Faso and State Senator Marty Golden, have been saying, and will only provide more ammunition to Republicans who feel that Mondello hasn’t articulated a coherent message since taking over.

http://tinyurl.com/ykgsty5


118 posted on 10/27/2009 8:20:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Around here, Republican politicians are routinely called RINOs, despite having conservative ratings near or above 80%.
119 posted on 10/27/2009 8:20:45 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: TheNewPundit

Was McHugh a champion of abortion and homosexuality? Did he favor card check?


120 posted on 10/27/2009 8:21:11 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: hoosier hick
There is a missing comma in this sentence that would have made the sentence more understandable with respect to Newt's true intent and meaning. Read it with the comma and see if you have a different understanding.

"So I say to many conservative friends who suddenly decided, whether they're from Minnesota, or Alaksa, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don't think so", he added.

The comma after, " . . . decided, . . . ", I think, gives his statement a different meaning. Not to say that what his true meaning is makes what he says any better.

121 posted on 10/27/2009 8:21:54 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Sub-Driver

OF COURSE we are conducting a PURGE of the GOP! We’re purging the RINOs!!!!!!!! We’re herding them out of the pasture!

THE GOP IS A CONSERVATIVE PARTY!!!!!!! NO MORE “REACHING-ACROSS-THE-AISLE”, NO MORE RINOS, NO MORE LIBERALS, NO, NO, NO, NO AND NO!!!!!!!!

WE ARE GOING TO STAND ON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES!!!!!! ENOUGH OF THE BELTWAY COUNTRY-CLUB REPUBLICANS!!!!!!


122 posted on 10/27/2009 8:22:49 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!!!!!)
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To: paulycy

The person who picked her is left of center.


123 posted on 10/27/2009 8:22:53 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Sub-Driver

You have to wonder what he’s thinking. Is there any point to Red & Blue ‘teams’ each made up of a mish-mash of ideologies from left to right? That’s pure insanity. I want to belong to a party that upholds our constitution & stands for FREEDOM. Newt, get a clue!!!


124 posted on 10/27/2009 8:23:20 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Cinnamontea
His problem is that he wants to run for President in 2012, but he sees it slipping away by Sarah Palin and the conservative movement. He will run as a Republican and this is scaring the crap out of him as he can't control what is happening.

He is waging the same kind of war on Conservatives that O is on FOX. The more they resist us the worse it gets for them, only they are arrogant to understand how and why they have lost the power.

They still think they are revalent even after seeing the Tea Party rallies and town hall meetings. They can't take credit for any of this and it scares them.

Conservatives!!! the power is now ours, and it feels good.

125 posted on 10/27/2009 8:24:19 AM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: Jewbacca
"I remember when Gingrich was smart."

...ummmm....Links??

(ok...sarcasm off thingee SHOULD BE in this spot....)

126 posted on 10/27/2009 8:24:42 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: veracious

TO QUOTE DOC HOLLIDAY:

“IT’S A RECKONING.”


127 posted on 10/27/2009 8:26:11 AM PDT by cld51860
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To: dennisw
But he said that her endorsement from the National Rifle Association, her signing a no tax-increase pledge, and her opposition to cap-and-trade and healthcare reform legislation made her "adquately conservative in an upstate New York district."

She was all in favor the stimulous plan which no Rep. supported in the House. She had to have her arm twisted to say she's in favor of these things listed above.Newt is either disengenuous or a moron. I think it's the former.

128 posted on 10/27/2009 8:26:50 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: stockpirate
The person who picked her is left of center.

Gee thanks, Newt. Great judgment. Did you do your homework or is this just the direction you'd like to see the GOP heading?

129 posted on 10/27/2009 8:27:19 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: annieokie
Conservatives!!! the power is now ours, and it feels good.

If, as I suspect will be the case, the Democrat wins, Conservatives will be blamed and the establishment view will be reinforced.

130 posted on 10/27/2009 8:27:40 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: InterceptPoint
show Newt the power of "WE" Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

131 posted on 10/27/2009 8:27:42 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: musicman

1994


132 posted on 10/27/2009 8:28:23 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Real conservative do have that “urge to purge”. Newt was on Laura Ingram the other day. It was very obvious that he just didn’t get it and apparently still doesn’t. He might not be a full-fledged RINO, but he is part of the Republican Old Guard ESTABLISHMENT. Go away Newt, your time has come and gone.


133 posted on 10/27/2009 8:28:53 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

What is Newt doing with Countess Elizabeth Báthory?

I do see the skin treatments are working on her face.


134 posted on 10/27/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Sub-Driver

May your party rest lightly upon you and let posterity forget your commentary.


135 posted on 10/27/2009 8:29:55 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"So I say to many conservative friends who suddenly decided whether they're from Minnesota, or Alaska, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don't think so," (Newt) added.

Last time I checked, Newt doesn't live in the NY Upstate either. So how can he tell everyone else their support of Hoffman is wrong? If Scuzzball had been elected to be the GOP candidate, he might have a point. But she was selected by the party behind closed doors, not by the people in a primary.

136 posted on 10/27/2009 8:30:03 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: paulycy

Actually in Newt’s letter of support he stated that she is the “new direction of the republican party”.......


137 posted on 10/27/2009 8:30:23 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Jackknife

“You are next to be purged !! “

He can always get a job as a Nancy boy and help save the planet.


138 posted on 10/27/2009 8:30:47 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Proud2BeRight

139 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: stockpirate
Actually in Newt’s letter of support he stated that she is the “new direction of the republican party”.......

It's hard to retreat from a mistaken strategy if you've already been flushed down the drain, Newt.

We now politely (or not) request that you stand down and go write a book or something.

140 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:14 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: paulycy; wildandcrazyrussian; stockpirate
Who actually did pick this person? Are there names and associated histories available? Maybe we can find out some interesting facts regarding why a left-of-center "republican" ended up on the ticket, especially with Newt supporting them... just sayin'

The actual story is a bit more complicated, and a whole lot uglier than what has been generally reported.

The following link, courtesy of StatenIsland in another thread, is an account of how, in addition to Scozzafava, there were actually eight other GOP prospects vying for the spot, ALL of whom were acceptably conservative and would have been endorsed by the NY Conservative Party, thus guaranteeing a GOP win, except that the GOP committee chairwoman manipulated the voting process to put in her friend, Scozzafava. In fact, Scozzafava was the one the Conservative Party folks specifically told the GOP committee they would not endorse. The ugly truth is that not only were all eight conservative GOP candidates betrayed by a corrupt committee chairwoman, she also betrayed her own committee members.

Here's the link from the TCOT Report:

http://tcotreport.com/23ny1.html

141 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:38 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Sub-Driver

FUN & STFU

Now, I have a platter of Delectible Twinkies.

May I offer your favorite treat?

You ass is as big as your ego and we are going to pop it


142 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: BubbaBasher

Perfect, we just need a larger one with Sarah sitting their with the big gun ... Nice photo, says it all, vote the rino’s out


143 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:14 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Cedric

>>>Around here, Republican politicians are routinely called RINOs, despite having conservative ratings near or above 80%.<<<

I agree that the RINO label sometimes gets thrown around a little too lightly. However, 80% really isn’t nearly good enough to call someone a conservative. We might have to tolerate some 80 percenters in liberal states and districts, but we should not tolerate them where a real conservative can win.

Also, it makes a big difference which 20% the official disagrees on. Disloyalty or dissent in some areas is tolerable, but in others it is not.

Finally, with the Democrats pushing for such a radical, socialist, weak Ameerica, agenda, right now even a moderate Rebublican should be voting against the Democrats nearly 100% of the time.


144 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:17 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt has lost it.

It makes 1994 look more like an accident than a brilliance.

IT was a blind man finding gold when he hit the triggers for the majority of the USA.

Newt is just acting like all beltway insiders. Parties are just to get elected and mean nothing. Newt does not get it beyond the effete elites of the beltway.

He is an ivory tower professor these days and acting like an ivory tower professor.

He is right, it is a purge. A purge of left wing nonsense supported by newt.


145 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VanDeKoik

He has long since left us in Georgia. No, he is an inside the beltway profiteer who is out for himself.


146 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:02 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: Sub-Driver
Newt,
Have you lost your mind? Why should conservative Republicans continue to vote for someone who has an R after their name, but votes with the Dems. Apparently you have learned that this puts us in the position that allows the Democrats to state that they are being bipartisan, but then when election time comes that we are just like them. The big tent philosophy isn't working for true Republicans.

If the R's manage to hold the line on health care issue, then we can blame the Dems for this disaster.

147 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:17 AM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing Freeper)
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To: y6162
Hey Newt, when a real purge comes you'll know it.


148 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:31 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Sub-Driver

I heard Newtie arrogantly dismiss complaints about Dede by saying “ She won, Hoffman lost “ and then something along the lines of get over it.
I assumed that there had been a primary.
His tripling down on the hand picked ,non primary DIABLO ,
as Steyn calls her ,
is a good thing.
Because maybe it will end his ridiculous mewing about running in 2012.
And purge is too delicate .
What this party needs is a high colonic to flush out all the waste and toxins.


149 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:44 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: tarheelswamprat
The ugly truth is that not only were all eight conservative GOP candidates betrayed by a corrupt committee chairwoman, she also betrayed her own committee members.

Moles can do a lot of damage. Newt should have seen what happened and gone public with that, not with a "liberal republican."

Thanks for the info and the link.

150 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:57 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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