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Squid Fossils, Ancient DNA, and a Young Earth
ACTS & FACTS ^ | October 2009 | Frank Sherwin, M.A.

Posted on 10/27/2009 10:09:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The field of biology has provided much support for a recent creation, and physical evidence of very young-looking biological materials from supposedly ancient fossils continues to accrue from around the world, and from various depths under the earth.

In August of this year, paleontologists in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England, made a discovery that astounded the evolutionary community...

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1 posted on 10/27/2009 10:09:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I favor a young earth but fear I would not be allowed to live there.


2 posted on 10/27/2009 10:10:23 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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Ping!


3 posted on 10/27/2009 10:10:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

This is all just part of a creationist conspiracy.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 10:12:09 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Eleutheria5
This is all just part of a creationist conspiracy.

AMEN !

5 posted on 10/27/2009 10:21:44 AM PDT by celmak
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To: GodGunsGuts
Male and female human DNA has been sequenced and there were estimates of the age of the species. Why not take live squid DNA and DNA form the old squid and determine the age?
6 posted on 10/27/2009 10:22:11 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The field of biology has provided much support for a recent creation, and physical evidence of very young-looking biological materials from supposedly ancient fossils continues to accrue from around the world, and from various depths under the earth

When an article starts with utter nonsense, then one can conclude that it isn't worth reading beyond the first sentence, and in fact one regrets wasting the time to do that.

7 posted on 10/27/2009 10:24:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: mountainlion

If you take the time to read the following, I can assure you that you will find it absolutely fascinating:

DNA Mutation Rates and Evolution

http://www.detectingdesign.com/dnamutationrates.html


8 posted on 10/27/2009 10:56:45 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: from occupied ga
Yours is the typical reply of a brainwashed Temple of Darwin fanatic. Is this just coincidence, or have you followed the rest of the Darwin drones in making the ultimate sacrifice to darwood's fanciful natural selection god?


9 posted on 10/27/2009 11:03:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I don't know why the squid ink is so shocking. Elizibeth Philpot wrote of taking sepia from a fossil cuttlefish collected by Mary Anning and doing illustrations - about 1820! I guess someone needs to do a tad more research.

And the quote "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac…inside a rock that is 150 million years old" is completely disingenuous. The original reads, "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac fossilised in three dimensions, still black, and inside a rock that is 150 million years old."

Just another example of lying for god.

10 posted on 10/27/2009 11:06:26 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
We have already been all over this, stormer. All they did was add liquid to the contents of the ink sack and they were literally able to draw the squid using its own ink. Thus, the contents of the ink sack were not fossilized. Nice try...but as usual, epic fail.


11 posted on 10/27/2009 11:13:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
The field of biology has provided much support for a recent creation, and physical evidence of very young-looking biological materials from supposedly ancient fossils continues to accrue from around the world, and from various depths under the earth.

Another instance of making it up as they go. The field of biology has provided zero support for a recent creation.

Ah yes.....the ole "intact ink sack" twist.

OYG....some animals haven't evolved much....that must mean that evolution doesn't exist.......such great intellect needed for sucha sound conclusion.

OYG...old DNA FRAGMENT sequences!!! That means Man walked the Earth with 100+ species of large meat eating dinosaurs 4,400 years ago.

OYG....DNA sequences from a FROZEN guy!!! Proof positive....Man walked the Earth with T. rex!!!

OYG....bacteria are found in the most intolerant of places!!!

False conclusion, Dr.

12 posted on 10/27/2009 11:16:23 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Bullshit. There are countless types of rocks that, when added to an appropriate fluid, will render an “ink”. Read the quote again, “fossilised in three dimensions”. What part of that do you not understand?


13 posted on 10/27/2009 11:18:12 AM PDT by stormer
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To: GodGunsGuts

Actually, they GROUND the SOLID contents of the ink sac and rehydrated it with AMMONIA.

No surprise, it rehydrated into something that you could draw with. Of course, you can do the same with some tree barks, some seeds, some rocks, some clays, some insects.....


14 posted on 10/27/2009 11:30:51 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: stormer

Oh, I see, and that particular rock just happened to turn the same color as the squid’s ink in the exact dimensions of the squid’s ink sack? Yeah, right. Evos will believe just about anything so long as it hides the fact that the Temple of Darwin is being shaken to its very foundations and crumbling to the ground.


15 posted on 10/27/2009 11:33:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Since you started with the ad hominem attacks, I will simple say that I don’t intent to waste any more of my time with bible thumping morons who are so arrogant as to think they understand God’s way of doing things and too stupid to realize just how dumb they really are. Have a great day.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 11:40:30 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

That confirms it, you have indeed made the ultimate sacrifice. You know, it’s not too late to reclaim your brain. But you better hurry before they clear them out to make room for the next batch of darwin-drones making the ultimate sacrifice.


17 posted on 10/27/2009 11:50:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

whatever


18 posted on 10/27/2009 12:18:01 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

Just remember, it’s not too late, but time is quite literally running out.


19 posted on 10/27/2009 12:21:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes, that particular fossilized ink sac, when ground up and rehydrated with ammonia, turned into an ink capable of drawing on paper.
OYG....that means Man walked the Earth with vegetarian T rex!!!

Yes, a squid’s ink sac fossilized, the key term being FOSSILIZED. Of course, soft tissue fossils are more rare than simple bone/shell fossils, but not unheard of outside of your small world.....and didja know that they also found some fossililzed eyes too?


20 posted on 10/27/2009 12:26:17 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

What I find amazing is that someone would be surprised that a ground up and rehydrated fossilized ink sac would make an ink-like substance.

SHOCKER!!!


21 posted on 10/27/2009 12:28:00 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Are you casting pearls in front of swine? ;0)


22 posted on 10/27/2009 1:29:20 PM PDT by seemoAR
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To: ElectricStrawberry; GodGunsGuts

This was discussed the first time this article appeared.

Apparently, the ink sac was not fossilized, it was just dessicated.

In fossilization, the bony material of the creature is replaced by minerals from the surrounding soil. Other elements, (like an ink sac) become dessicated. They can be rehydrated.


23 posted on 10/27/2009 5:21:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Excellent description...and to the point! Thanks for helping to clear things up :o)


24 posted on 10/27/2009 6:34:02 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 10/27/2009 9:17:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 10/27/2009 10:26:27 PM PDT by rae4palin
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To: GodGunsGuts

I wonder why it took 50 to 70 years for science to accept Darwin’s natural selection theory, and reject his Pangenesis theory altogether.


27 posted on 10/27/2009 10:32:25 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
No surprise, it rehydrated into something that you could draw with. Of course, you can do the same with some tree barks, some seeds, some rocks, some clays, some insects.....

I bet the Precambrian banded irons rocks that billions of years old would make a nice red ink.

28 posted on 10/27/2009 10:37:28 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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