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Escape From New York
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 10-28-09 | The Wall Street Journal Editorial Staff

Posted on 10/27/2009 6:10:55 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

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To: SoCalPol

Hey, I never said that San Diego isn’t a lovely place. Heck, I’m a SoCal native. I know the place well, and I can totally understand why you like it there.

Understand though, that San Diego isn’t immune to the insanity emanating from Sacramento. Everything you love about San Diego is under threat because of the declining socio-political-economic situation in Cali.

Friend, I’d move back home to LA in a heartbeat, if conditions reversed there. I love my home state, but it’s become a place that I no longer recognize.

Enjoy it while you can.


21 posted on 10/27/2009 8:32:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hojczyk

IMO I live in one of them, but it’s not because we’re a rich state. But better poor and free than a well-fed slave. Also I like that we’re off most people’s radar.


22 posted on 10/27/2009 8:33:28 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: SoCalPol
If I lived in any other county in CA I would head out.

I was born in Monterey County, and as far as I'm concerned, it's the finest piece of ground on planet Earth. I believe that the whole of NorCal is about the best darn place a human can live, but sadly, it's been infiltrated and taken over by the hard-left, who have ruined it for Americans who simply want to live in America.

I didn't leave California on a whim, or without a great deal of hand-wringing and soul-searching. The place is in my blood, but the time finally came when I could no longer ignore the handwriting writ large on the proverbial wall.

The fact is, the California of my birth, and the land that I grew to love throughout my life, is gone. What remains is an ugly caricature of the great state that once was.

23 posted on 10/27/2009 8:42:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t have the element that is tearing some other areas down in the state. I live near the downtown area.

I am not a slave to mortgages and taxes. I rent an apt.

It is sad that so many think they Have to own property.
It is like teens who think they have to follow the crowd.
Hell, I never own a car in my life, always used public trasn. One of the many great things living in the heart of the city.
I am ret. legal support with the County Attys.


24 posted on 10/27/2009 8:47:25 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Windflier

I met a couple last month who plan to move here to San Diego from Monterey Co.

There are many Frisco people in my neighorhood, ret. people, and professionals.

Of the 5 congressmen here in S.D. we have 3 great Conservative Republicans.


25 posted on 10/27/2009 8:52:58 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol
I don’t have the element that is tearing some other areas down in the state. I live near the downtown area.

As I said, enjoy it while you can. The whole state is close to imploding. Knowing what I know, I couldn't just sit comfortably in Cali, no matter how nice a neighborhood I lived in.

If you're in the producer class, you've got a target on your back. The leftists in Sacramento are going to find a way to take more from you, or curtail your ability to exercise your constitutionally protected rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Things are going to continue to worsen in Cali, until the state finally breaks. What happens then, is anyone's guess, but I hope at that point, that the people of the state revolt against the diabolical leftist machine that's destroying their lives and their state.

26 posted on 10/27/2009 9:05:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t know so I could be wrong, but it’s the nanny-statism I hear so much in place there that would make it unbearable to me. My understanding is that even some otherwise conservatives support ridiculously strict measures on “health and safety” , which raises taxes, which leads them to move elsewhere, then demand those very same nanny-state oversights, thereby raising taxes in the lower-tax region to which they moved to escape taxes. (I don’t mean you, you’re a freeper, no way you support nanny-statism supported by government theft)


27 posted on 10/27/2009 9:15:17 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Windflier

I am ret. legal support with the county attys.
I rent an apt. again, don’t own a car.

I am more concerned what is going on Internationally.
A person can live in a good or bad area, the IslamOfascists keep up their fight it is all gone
including CA & TX.
I have several relatives who have and still are in Iraq and Afghn.


28 posted on 10/27/2009 9:20:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Windflier

20 years ago I could drive home from work drinking a beer with no insurance. Then yall Yankees moved in. Now Texas sucks as bad as NY or Calf.


29 posted on 10/27/2009 9:24:09 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Now Texas sucks as bad as NY or Calf.

This may be hard to believe, my friend, but Texas is still a FAR better place to live than either Cali, or NY. You'd have to be from one of those places to see the differences like I do.

Trust me, it's much better here.

30 posted on 10/27/2009 9:29:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpsb

LOL


31 posted on 10/27/2009 9:34:17 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: jpsb

“20 years ago I could drive home from work drinking a beer with no insurance.”

LOL! I remember those days..


32 posted on 10/27/2009 9:34:51 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: mrsmel
I could be wrong, but it’s the nanny-statism I hear so much in place there that would make it unbearable to me.

That's only one of the attributes of living in California that would get under your skin. There are lots of others.

As far back as the late 70's, I knew people who'd moved to California from other states, but packed it in after only a couple of years. Back in those days, I tried to convince out of state friends to stay, and give the place another chance, but they were seeing things that I wasn't.

As they say, a fish doesn't know that it's wet. I was simply accustomed to the degraded state of the place. I didn't begin reacting negatively to the things that are most wrong with California until they became so outrageous that I could no longer ignore them.

Becoming a husband, father, home owner, and business owner also changed my perspective quite a bit.

33 posted on 10/27/2009 9:40:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Becoming a husband, father, home owner, and business owner also changed my perspective quite a bit.

That, especially the father part, would do it. I would be spitting nails if I had kids and probably in deep doo if I had kids and they were subjected to "gay sensitivity" indoctrination.(But if I had them I'd homeschool like most of my siblings did anyway). But those kinds of things are the most obvious and flashy-it would be the all the"little" restrictions on this that the other, grinding a person down until they felt they didn't own their own soul, that would do me in. I couldn't be paid any amount of money to put up with that. But then I read of places like Britain and Australia where that kind of thing is almost as bad, perhaps worse. Can't kill a deadly snake without getting into trouble? (and we're talking things like taipans)-forget that! Whatever happened to plain common sense, self-responsibility, and balance and moderation (as decided by a legal and sane adult) to make decisions for themselves and their families?
34 posted on 10/27/2009 9:54:19 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: BwanaNdege
should any of these “droves” have been traded/junked during the “Cash for Clunkers” program?

If they want to haul anything themselves, they'd better be.

35 posted on 10/27/2009 10:08:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Windflier; freedumb2003
I always tell them that if they moved to California for a year or two, they’d move Heaven and Earth to get back to Texas. It’s that bad, and Texas is that good. This also seems to genuinely surprise them.

Not me. Since the age of four, and excepting a few years in the military, I've only lived in Texas. But I can read a newspaper.

I'm consciously thankful nearly everyday that I live in a state with low taxes and other solid, pro-growth policies. Without fail, every time a fellow Texan complains about the current economic conditions -- and we certainly have been profoundly effected, even here -- I point out they are damn lucky to be in Texas, that it is much worse most other places, and that without our state's good governance it would be much worse here also. I've had a few people (libs and lefties) get angry at these comments, but the large majority nod and agree.

36 posted on 10/28/2009 2:44:30 AM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: GOP_Lady

Too many of the NYC tax refugees are ending up in North Carolina. I guess it kind of feels like home since NC has one of the highest sales tax rates in the south AND one of the highest income tax rates in the south.


37 posted on 10/28/2009 3:49:27 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Hojczyk
People have been leaving New York State for thirty years...I left in 1981...Only people left are welfare and government workers...I think the rich are the last to go for some reason...I moved to Colorado and the Californians we moving in then...they ruined it...There are only a couple of good states left...I’m not telling

That old movie Escape From New York comes to mind...pretty soon we can just throw up some walls around it to control the lib kooks.

38 posted on 10/28/2009 4:41:38 AM PDT by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: mrsmel
...I'd homeschool...

That's precisely what we did. We took our eldest out of public school after just one semester of kindergarten because of the heavy-handed gov't control that was creeping into his life. We've never looked back, and I think my kids are much better for it.

...it would be the all the"little" restrictions on this that the other, grinding a person down until they felt they didn't own their own soul, that would do me in.

That's the part that's hard to explain to people. It's just one little thing after another - all of them piling up on you and wearing you down. In time, you feel like you're in a battle for your very existence against unseen specters who are attacking you from every conceivable angle.

39 posted on 10/28/2009 7:37:49 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
They've got that weird armadillo thing here, too.

'Possum in the half-shell! Them's gooood eatin'.

40 posted on 10/28/2009 9:03:52 AM PDT by AF_Blue ("Are you guys ready? Let's roll!" - Todd Beamer)
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