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Social Upheaval, How Close Are We?
The Market Oracle ^ | 10-24-2009 | Michael T Bucci

Posted on 10/27/2009 9:12:51 PM PDT by blam

Social Upheaval, How Close Are We?

Politics / Social Issues
Oct 24, 2009 - 02:33 AM
By: Michael_T_Bucci

Many authors who have contributed to The Market Oracle have expressed concern - some overtly and some in passing - about the possibility of social upheavals in the US caused by economic dislocations and what impact these events would have on the markets.
How close are we?
An excellent synopsis by Mr Andre Damon of the current status of economic conditions extant in the US and the world on the eve of the G20 conference contains a prescient conclusion: "These different factors set the stage for the inevitable eruption of open social conflict." Having written elsewhere this same conclusion and finding it raised by political writers both on the Left and Right using identical economic and social data and yardsticks, I firmly believe that open conflict MAY BE UPON US and needs only a small (or large, I believe) catalyst to erupt. Hopefully, this won't occur.

Regrettably, the American far-right has hijacked both the minds of workers who would otherwise galvanize behind self-defensive and pro-social agendas, and of Republican moderates and centrists; while the Democrats, Progressives and Left-leaners remain mesmerized and paralyzed in a residual stupor of Obamania (frozen in denial).
President Barrack Obama serves the purpose (knowingly or unknowingly) of neutralizing the center- to left-coalitions whereby the Bush agenda would and did continue without dissent; his administration, however, now is being drowned by assaults from the far-right (paraphrasing Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit's comments about the NPD) who are "daring to do things that endanger our democracy".

Many of these agenda-setters (along with gunners at Obama rallies) are seeking majority rule in 2010 when they should be sought for aiding and abetting insurrection and endangering the life of a President.
Republican moderates and centrists did not stop this momentum, but instead allowed extremists to control their party and vie for future control of America in what seems a "by any means possible" manner. These are critical times for this Democracy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: avengeme; bhoeconomy; civilwar; cwiiping; economy; revolution; unemployment; unrest; upheavels; wolverines
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Ignore the cussing and screaming you hear, It's just me!
1 posted on 10/27/2009 9:12:52 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

check it out

Urban Shield, One of the Biggest Domestic Terrorism Drills in the Country
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2372340/posts


2 posted on 10/27/2009 9:16:42 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: blam

Liar, liar, pants on fire just doesn’t seem adequate for his nonsense.


3 posted on 10/27/2009 9:18:53 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: blam

‘These different factors set the stage for ‘

What factors?

And what a load of bs this article is.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 9:20:27 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: blam
not close enough.

there needs to be an epic washout before any progress can be made in setting this warped age in order.

5 posted on 10/27/2009 9:20:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Fearing for the republic 24/7.)
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To: blam
Social upheaval?

I think it's a done deal.

Why do you think you can't buy ammo?

6 posted on 10/27/2009 9:21:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: blam

This is one reason I support an Atlas Shrugged strike over revolution. The former makes it so the producers survive while at the same time denying the parasites a justification to engage even more force against us and a scapegoat to blame their own actions on.


7 posted on 10/27/2009 9:22:17 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: blam

PROJECTION. The American LEFT is going to be the problem. It is the SELF-PERCEIVED HAVE NOTS which will start the violence ... ya know ... the Islamofascists, the Communists, the Socialists, and the general Looters. The 2nd Amendment is the only thing stopping these one world order CLOWNS.


8 posted on 10/27/2009 9:24:33 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: blam
... this Democracy.

One of several instances of ignorance by the author in this article.

9 posted on 10/27/2009 9:26:37 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: blam

Where is the BARF alert on this one!


10 posted on 10/27/2009 9:32:52 PM PDT by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: blam

When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you’ll have to answer to
Oh, Guns of Brixton


11 posted on 10/27/2009 9:33:03 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: blam

The problem with this guy is that he’s bought into all the leftist propaganda about conservatives in the USA.

Oh, it’s bullcrap, but when was the last time you think he ever spent an evening chatting up politics with American conservatives?

He only knows what he’s been told.

I know what I see, though. There isn’t a group anywhere else on the planet that will do more to defend the United States against fascism.


12 posted on 10/27/2009 9:44:19 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: blam

Part of me thinks we are in need of a good ‘reset’. During the past few decades our country has veered so far off course, I’m not sure it can be set right.

Another part of me believes that if we can get the right people in office who will lead and educate the public, our country as we know it might yet be saved.

I’m skeptical the latter, but we should at least try to save what our founders created, and what many great people gave their lives to protect and defend.


13 posted on 10/27/2009 9:50:02 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: blam

Just another piece in the bigger puzzle and more reason for sheep to believe “Urban Shield” type activity has a real need behind it.

A closer look at a technical society in meltdown would be, at least somewhat, the old CCCP.


14 posted on 10/27/2009 10:12:55 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: RWB Patriot

>>>Given this charged atmosphere of anger, hate and potential violence that has infected too many Americans against Government, the Federal Reserve, Democrats, fictitiously labeled “Socialists” and social welfare programs, we are at risk of experiencing a controlled, scripted and programmed “Revolution” - not by the Left, but by the Right.<<<

This comment probably dates me, but it reminds of me how me and my roommates used to discuss politics in the dorms back in the 1970s, fueled by passion, good weed, and a lack of knowledge.

I support an Atlas Shrugged strike, too. They can take everything from me except my will to be productive. Call if the Cloward-Piven strategy in reverse. The government needs to confiscate productive people’s wealth; what if we just decided to stop being productive?

The mass strike help bring down communist Poland, too.

As things get worse, I’ll hunker down and stop buying, stop producing, and if I can help it, dissolve my wealth in such a way as to prevent the government or anyone from using it. At that point I’ll be “inside” the system set up by the left of “the needy,” and then I can start acting like a good little termite and erode the structure slowly until the rot causes the whole edifice to fall apart.

At that point, I’ll still have the values and foresight which made me productive in the first place, and there’s always a construction boom after a calamity. Like Rahm Emmanuel said, don’t let a crisis go to waste.


15 posted on 10/27/2009 10:16:19 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: ASOC
"CCCP"

Constipated Commonists Claiming (to be) Progressives

16 posted on 10/27/2009 10:20:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: blam
The reason the Senate just passed 99 weeks of unemployment benefits was to avoid riots in the streets.

We just have to declare "amnesty for illegals" to be our Fort Sumter. I don't mind a fairly contested 2010 election, but if they try to stand on the scales using the illegals, then there's nothing left for them to take.

17 posted on 10/27/2009 10:25:04 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The money vampires fear garlands of lead & brass)
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To: redpoll

Some days... I feel like I’m already about half way through the process you described!!!


18 posted on 10/27/2009 10:26:33 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Comrade, you dis the Rodina at your own peril.

The Narodno-Patrioticheskiy Soyuz will come looking for you.....

(Pretty funny actually - thanks)


19 posted on 10/27/2009 10:40:16 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: an amused spectator

what we may need is a modern day equivalent of a true peasants with pitchforks rebellion, march on Washington and force these fools out, if need be ala’ Caecescu..


20 posted on 10/27/2009 10:43:11 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Flavius

all designed with us in mind


21 posted on 10/28/2009 3:59:46 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Something stinks in Oslo)
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To: blam
Republican moderates and centrists did not stop this momentum, but instead allowed extremists to control their party and vie for future control of America...

I've been to the gatherings and have seen these extremists with my own two eyes and they are a scary lot!

Grannies, soccor moms, retired workers that many of probably vote democrat. I've seen veterans and entire families, even YOUNG CHILDREN with scary signs!

Yep, the extremists are taking over. What are we going to do about it? I'm more than a little nervous.

22 posted on 10/28/2009 4:15:01 AM PDT by houeto (I peered inside the Treasury's door and alas, the entire vault was empty. We've been robbed!)
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To: blam
Deflation Fears As Eurozone And US Credit Contracts
23 posted on 10/28/2009 6:24:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It will happen but we won’t do it. After the next election that the Dems lose by a large margine, they will be the ones starting violence and urging each other to do the “patriotic” thing (French yute rioting).


24 posted on 10/28/2009 6:31:34 AM PDT by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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To: Jim Noble

I’m not ready for it - can you hold it off for a couple of years? :)

Seriously, I’m “prepping”, but have a late start.


25 posted on 10/28/2009 6:34:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: mc6809e
There isn’t a group anywhere else on the planet that will do more to defend the United States against fascism.

This is why they see us as a threat!

26 posted on 10/28/2009 6:35:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: blam

What happens when the food deliveries stop to the cities?


27 posted on 10/28/2009 6:37:36 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Schwaeky

That’s not the way to do it.

The way to do it is to have your state declare all federal laws null and void within the state,

then hunker down and “prepare to repel boarders”.


28 posted on 10/28/2009 6:37:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: listenhillary

They all go feral.

And the rich libs in the cities will see what they’ve been promoting and protecting.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 6:38:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

No such event will ever happen, you need to stop watching movies. Government health care will pass, cap and trade will pass, we will simply become a socialist nation without even the “mere” whimper some talk about. No ones going to do anything because legislation was passed, even if it means we’re socialists. That is the reality of the situation.


30 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:41 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: MrB

There will be lots of food to be had in the suburbs for a short time.


31 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:54 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Scythian

We never thought we would have a Marxist in the Whitehouse. It was unthinkable after all of the blood we had shed in the 20th century fighting for freedom.


32 posted on 10/28/2009 6:42:14 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: listenhillary
"What happens when the food deliveries stop to the cities?"

In 72 hours, they start to burn and the refugees will be looking for you.

33 posted on 10/28/2009 6:49:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Allow me to Re-PHRASE ONE OF THEIR LINES...

When OBAMA should be impeached for aiding and abetting TERRORISTS


34 posted on 10/28/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: blam
Why are we still referring to the Czars in Obama’s administration? They are Commissars. Welcome the rise of the American politburo.
35 posted on 10/28/2009 12:31:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: mc6809e
There isn’t a group anywhere else on the planet that will do more to defend the United States against fascism.

If you think about it, that's what the author is afraid of - that we'll stand up to (his, their) fascism.

36 posted on 10/28/2009 12:34:10 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: blam

If the ammo and gun sales are any indicator, a lot of people think this is inevitable. I assume everyone hopes we never have to fight our fellow Americans but the cultural divide is so great, the hatred so intense, is it inevitable?


37 posted on 10/28/2009 12:34:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: listenhillary

Fools like the author of this barf strewn diatribe still deny there is Socialism afoot in America. Marxism is but a dirty word.

Dirty because it speaks truth of the situtation.


38 posted on 10/28/2009 12:35:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all the while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: Scythian

Speak for yourself. You sound resigned to that fact. I will never live under a Pinko government. NEVER. I will leave if people decide to just accept it and we can’t have honest elections to remove them. You enjoy being one of their serfs.


39 posted on 10/28/2009 12:38:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Yes. It’s inevitable at this point. Things are so out of whack the built-in checks and balances no longer work.


40 posted on 10/28/2009 12:39:59 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: mojitojoe

“You sound resigned to that fact. I will never live under a Pinko government. NEVER. I will leave if people decide to just accept it and we can’t have honest elections to remove them.”

I think more and more citizens of this country are willing to accept a certain amount of socialism. Probably the next generation won’t be as passionate as we are now the same way the majority doesn’t want to abolish Medicare or SS.


41 posted on 10/28/2009 12:48:31 PM PDT by snarkybob (')
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To: blam

Social Upheaval, How Close Are We?

Already happening at a low level:

1) Mexicans driving out blacks from the LA hood
2) Blacks effectively governing inner cities by using racial and class warfare statements—see Baltimore mayor issue
3) Low intensity drug wars in many urban areas slowly spreading into the suburbs
4) Kidnappings occurring in Phoenix
5) Pittsburgh demonstrations last month aimed at capitalism
6) Attempted fire bombing of GOP convention last year by a nutjob in Austin who was turn in by one of his own.
7) Black panthers blocking poll access in Philly
8) Prop 8 ‘demonstrations’ aimed at Mormons and Christians across California with some property damage
9) Gun sales thru the roof for protection
10) a white house administration that barely hides its content at middle America

....we are already in a civil conflict, just how bloody remains to be seen.


42 posted on 10/28/2009 12:58:37 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: blam

How close are we? Just look out your window!


43 posted on 10/28/2009 1:02:12 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: blam
Far Right? I don't think the Near Right is happy about conditions either. Apparently, these communists think it is our solemn American duty to lay down and let communism crush us as individuals. Make note of your Leftie neighbors and keep a list...
44 posted on 10/28/2009 1:05:43 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: blam
“Fascism is no friend of free markets and free global trade.”
Yet, this Bozo voted for Obama and is GESTAPO like followers who personally attack private citizens, fire CEOs, declare Jihad on News Outlets. Mr. Pucci Bucci you are an useful idiot.

“Given this charged atmosphere of anger, hate and potential violence that has infected too many Americans against Government, the Federal Reserve, Democrats, fictitiously labeled “Socialists” and social welfare programs, we are at risk of experiencing a controlled, scripted and programmed “Revolution” - not by the Left, but by the Right.”

I guess Mr. Pucci Bucci likes the Black Panthers and ACORN involved with elections. (oh, how blinded you are Pucci Bucci.) And the brilliant Mr. Pucci Bucci has no problem with the “Capitalist” Government taking over 20% of the US economy as it secretly writes the 1,000+ page bill...oh please, Mr. Pucci Bucci, tell me you were drunk when you wrote this drivel.

Words to the editors of “Market Oracle” - you allowed this infantile nonsense to be printed? This reflects quite poorly on your judgment and I will remember this trite the next time I read anything published by you.

The link below is the antidote to this blathering fool.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2371265/posts

45 posted on 10/28/2009 1:08:52 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: KoRn
We need to bust up public education, the media and most, but not all, universities. Leftie impermiation is the problem. Route them out and destroy their careers (just like they do to us). One should be AFRAID to be a Leftie...
46 posted on 10/28/2009 1:09:08 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Chgogal
we are at risk of experiencing a controlled, scripted and programmed “Revolution” - not by the Left, but by the Right.”

This little sh*t needs to learn that the Left has been doing exactly this since the 1960s. Read Alinsky.

47 posted on 10/28/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: blam; listenhillary

Remember: they have cars too.


48 posted on 10/28/2009 1:26:57 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: MrB

That’s my favorite solution.


49 posted on 10/28/2009 1:30:15 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: mojitojoe

The you will simply go to jail, most likely alone ... I’m not trying to be a dufus, it’s just reality. Life is short on this planet in it’s current form, but life is eternal, if the US is stupid enough to go socialist then it simply will. I have my eyes on the eternal prize, and that isn’t the US ...


50 posted on 10/28/2009 1:37:40 PM PDT by Scythian
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