Skip to comments.Boeing talks fall apart; S.C. likely to get 787 line
Posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
Discussions between the Machinists union and Boeing over the second 787 production line for Everett are effectively dead, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. Boeing now appears close to choosing Charleston, S.C., as the location of the second line. The person close to the negotiations said an announcement could come within days. Boeing management has turned down further talks over the potential 10-year no-strike agreement the company had sought, the person said. "The union wants to continue talking," said this source, who is not aligned with the union. "The Boeing Co. does not want to talk any further. "The company is fairly close to being done, if not done already," the person said. Boeing spokespeople could not be reached for comment late Tuesday.
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Red State wins, blue State loses!
This is what’s so crazy about the people in Ohio, especially in Northern Ohio. They complain about all the manufacturing jobs being lost to China and Mexico, but they ignore the hundreds of thousands of jobs that have left, or will leave for Southern states that have right-to-work laws.
“U.S. Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., intervened over the weekend”....
No wonder it fell apart. Good work Libtard Patty!
Expect a renewed push for card-check. The union would have had Boeing over a barrel if Boeing didn’t have a right-to-work state to move production to.
The uniquely American form of a union that destroys its host company has to die.
Just look what the UAW did to Detroit....
I hope Ford is paying attention.
I might consider becoming a customer someday if they dropped or neutered the UAW.
Look for one of The Messiah’s czars to step in and mandate the Union, or, at a minimum, do “card check” in the Carolina factory.
You'd think that when Boeing moved their corporate offices to Chicago, the union would have stopped a second and thought, "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
But no, those morons just keep right on pushing and poking.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Machinist union bosses are not talking to a designated czar right now....
One is hard core union, one just voted to disband the union.
Let us see which way the jobs go...
BTW, if a union has no work, can it basically dissolve?
The stupidity of Union types never ceases to amaze me.
Union: “We’ll shut this place down.”
At the same time the whack left politicians like Patty Murray and Christine Haywire make a token appearance as if their input mattered a damn.
These unions never, ever learn.
My sweetie (a reformed liberal in Chicago) asked me a few weeks ago the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives.
I didn’t cite the usual social issues. Rather, I said:
“Liberals are the only species of humans that cling to their lousy, failed ideas, regardless of the outcome. It matters not how many times they have failed before. Not only that, but once failure is reached, instead of lurching in a different direction....liberals ‘double down’ on their policies. Doubt me? Look at Detroit, NJ, Cleveland, and yes...even your beloved Chicago. It would be impossible to create a more dumb group of human beings if you were given full custody of a laboratory and endless DNA to work with.”
heh...and yes, we’re still together. :)
nearly every new manufacturing built in America the last decade has been built in a right to work state...
"This economic-development package, along with the decertification of the union in North Charleston, gives the entity all the indicators they need, I hope."
Every working man and woman should jump for joy when hearing these words. Unions, in their modern incarnation, are poison.
Does card check nullify right-to-work? If so, that’s another kick in the crotch.
Oh yeah. I grew up in Northern Ohio and live in the South now. The truth is, not everyone in the old Industrial Midwest is ignoring the jobs going to the South. That’s exactly the reason for “card-check.” Card-check is nothing other than a way to get around Taft-Hartley and destroy the right-to-work state.
Unions have created a new sectionalism in the United States. You heard some of that rhetoric last winter during the debates over the auto bailouts. Midwestern Democrats blamed opposition to the bailouts on Southern Republicans who they claimed actively wanted to bankrupt GM and Chrysler in order to help the foreign companies that build cars in non-union shops in the South.
Frankly, I think the South should be unapologetic about this. The foreign companies are bringing jobs to the South, while the Detroit companies are just taking our tax dollars while subsidizing the political activities of the unions.
If the Midwest wants their jobs back, they should think about looking at what worked for the South rather than try to use Washington to tilt the playing field back in their direction.
I guess the Union could still play the “Obama card”(?)
I guess the Union could still play the Obama card(?)
News at eleven.....
It doesn’t nullify right to work, but it can go a long way to making the distinction meaningless.
I would think that card check would be a direct violation of the 10th amendment.....this would end up in court
Unions want to do to Boeing what they did for the auto industry...
So, my question is, will Boeing eventually move ALL commercial aircraft production to South Carolina and just be done with the IAM, altogether?
Every 4-years like clock work they shut down production due to an IAM strike. When Boeing was looking for location to build the 787 other than Washington, IAM said if you want to build it right and on time build it in Washington, and that they could be trusted on getting the job done. That promise didn't last long when IAM went out on strike again late last year putting the brakes once again on building airplanes, and causing a major slide in the delivery of the 787, which cost Boeing a fortune.
I would hate to see any part of Boeing move out of the State. My livelihood depends on them sticking around - but can you blame them?
“when IAM went out on strike again late last year putting the brakes once again on building airplanes, and causing a major slide in the delivery of the 787, which cost Boeing a fortune.”
Not to mention that it caused huge delays in the delivery of other aircraft, which disrupted customers’ delivery plans and route additions/changes.
Boeing has had to take multi-billion-dollar charges on their financials due to things like this and it doesn’t look good.
Cute cartoon, but I don’t think it applies here. Homer at least recognizes when he goofs up. I don’t know if the UAW is that aware of its failures. They just blame others.
D’oh! I meant Machinist’s Union.
Absolutely. Most unions are congenitally incapable of taking responsibility for the damage they cause to their own interests. It’s either the fault of a greedy, oppressive management or those evil anti-union Southern Republicans.
Not only are the unions the only people allowed to look out for number one, but they think everyone else has a moral obligation to selflessly look out for the unions’ interests as well.
Will Obama allow this to happen? I wouldn’t count on it, since Obama and his thugs control the decisions as to who gets defense contracts.
If Boeing doesn’t get the 787 flying and soon there won’t be a first production line, let alone a second.
I can only assume they think they hold all the cards with the party they bought and paid for fully in power in Washington.
The IMA is working hard to put themselves out of a job in WA, if that second line goes to SC it’s only a matter of time and there won’t be a Boeing in WA.
A union for workers at a paper plant in my area forced the company to close.
The paper plant told the workers at they would have to take a 10% pay cut or the company would be forced to shut the doors. The workers were told my the union to call the company’s bluff, and vote down the pay cut... The company closed the doors... oops!
They went from $25/hr with benefits to working in the mall or unemployed.