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Orly Taitz - Response to Bill O' Reilly's smears "It is time to protest FOX NEWS"
YouTube ^ | 10/28/09 | Orly interviewed by Steve Cooper 10/28/09

Posted on 10/28/2009 12:51:53 PM PDT by Jean S

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To: BuckeyeTexan

You and some in your group ignore facts and just continue to rant what you believe to be the truth of this matter.

If you think there are issues with Obama concerning his citizenship you should be supportive not distructive.


101 posted on 10/28/2009 3:47:04 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
I don’t really see any use for it.

When you put corn in a feeder or maintain a blind it makes sense to cover your scent.

Aerosol deer pee does that, I would think. I hope.

It might make a good mace/tear gas.

Deer pee is a multi-function item.

102 posted on 10/28/2009 3:51:04 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: stockpirate
She is the only one pursuing this.

She's not the only one pursing this. She's just the most visable - and there's a reason for that. She's an attention whore and is in this for the glory of recognition. Or she's a distraction planted by Obama and his thugs. I don't know which. She hasn't accomplished anything except making a fool of herself and embarrassing conservatives who actually believe there is a legitimate question surrounding the circumstances of his birth.

The attacks on those here at FR that support her efforts are meant to break our spirit.

You're personalizing something that isn't there. Those of us who think Orly is a freak are just enjoying making fun of her. Nobody is trying to break your spirit.

Which you have no power to do.

Exactly! So why let my disdain for Orly bother you so much? It's not about you. It's about HER. She's a freak.

103 posted on 10/28/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: PenetratingMndFlame
Congress passed another law making this U.S. territory law retroactive to all born before first law passed, thereby taking in McCain.

Gee, now isn't that a clever way of amending a Constitution?

Gotta hand it to you, n00b; stick around here and you might really learn something. The grist you threw out there (in error), and much more on this topic has been rehashed on more than a score of occasions.

HF

104 posted on 10/28/2009 3:54:49 PM PDT by holden
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To: stockpirate
You and some in your group ignore facts and just continue to rant what you believe to be the truth of this matter.

Show me where I have ignored any facts? I'll save you some time. You won't find anything.

If you think there are issues with Obama concerning his citizenship you should be supportive not distructive.

You've been on these threads long enough to know that I am working on a complaint in Texas against the Texas Democratic Party that outlines the multiple laws they broke in nominating Barack Obama as their presidential candidate. I've outlined it several times in response to this same accusation from others in your group. I don't expect to get anything reversed, but I expect to get a ruling that the TDP broke many laws. Such a ruling will force the state legislature to put measures in place to prevent that from ever happening again. That's where my focus is.

105 posted on 10/28/2009 4:00:28 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Jean S
The head clown from MSNBC and the head clown from Fox:



Not much difference between the two really, so let's BOR and Beck swap timeslots! Now THAT makes sense!
106 posted on 10/28/2009 4:02:38 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: Sir Gawain

I catch myself almost unwillfully reacting with a cringe to the claim that all this has been put to rest. Even the issue of his birth is still a great big question mark.

If you consider what it would take to qualify as a perfect storm on the issue of subversive vision, illegal status, evil intent, and positioning to do the U.S. the most harm possible, Obama may very well qualify on every possible count. What other facet of a man’s life could this guy have, that would more qualify him to be our most effective enemy?

He spent time in an education system that taught the U.S. was an evil pariah nation. He seems to harbor that view today, several apology tours under his belt. He seems to have no impulse whatsoever to wretch at the actions of our nation’s biggest threats. And the possibility still remains, this man may view the United States from the vantage point of someone looking in from the outside.

Does he consider himself a U.S. Citizen, or does he see himself as a foreign national perfectly positioned to make this nation pay for it’s past sins? And if it is the later, to what lengths will this foreign national go to do that?

Frankly, we just don’t know.

As you state, he has spent an awful lot of funds on legal matters. How much actually went to fight the birthers I don’t know, but why is he fighting at all if there’s nothing to hide? And why isn’t the media more interested in this fight, if all questions has been laid to rest?

If we have seen all his birth documents, then what need is there for legal challenge to any of the requests? Just let the Hawaiian officials release all the records of his birth, all forms and all explanations.

This guy has failed to answer even the simplest of questions we have to answer to legally obtain a job ourselves.

I don’t know about you, but my pay grade is slightly lower than Obama’s.


107 posted on 10/28/2009 4:10:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: Jean S

Just stick to busting Obama’s chops, Orly.
Keep the eyes on the prize.


108 posted on 10/28/2009 4:16:10 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: potlatch

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MTM had lots of young clones in NYC that dressed like her

She like Dick Van Dyke to be heavy into the sauce for many years - and she has had health problems that would be affected - Diabetes I believe

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Another actress - older - had a cooking show at that station (on that same show as Ted Baxter) -


109 posted on 10/28/2009 4:22:09 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Hey - Know what? I*d like a wider seat!" . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: stockpirate
You and your whole group, if you are conservatives fit the model of the elites we all distain.

Pretty broad brush there dude. And its disdain, not "distain"

110 posted on 10/28/2009 4:36:37 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: parsifal

Okay, I heard that whole conversation in my head in “Mater’s” voice from “Cars”, LOL! :-)

Too funny.


111 posted on 10/28/2009 4:46:08 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Jean S

pretty good analysis Jean, a lot of us are thinking along the same lines.


112 posted on 10/28/2009 4:55:56 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Well then why not help her?


113 posted on 10/28/2009 5:00:29 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: devolve
Not sure I knew about MTM’s drinking but did know how bad her diabetes was.

Don't know about the cooking show one, lol, as I never watched them. Saw a thread with an old recipe for pickled prawn! Interesting. Lol, we are waaaay off topic.

114 posted on 10/28/2009 5:01:15 PM PDT by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: thecraw
Somebody needs to photo-shop these two clowns to look like the clowns they are.
115 posted on 10/28/2009 5:03:04 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: stockpirate

Because IANAL and I don’t throw good money out the window.


116 posted on 10/28/2009 5:20:30 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

So instead you tear down those who are trying to do what you can’t or won’t do.

Every birther thread I’ve seen you on you didn’t support the postion of anyone that is anti-Obama and wants him to show his BC.


117 posted on 10/28/2009 5:23:13 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Jim Scott

Eventually the truth will come out, whatever it is.

And history won’t be kind to those who were wrong.

A bit like global warming being caused by CO2...


118 posted on 10/28/2009 5:39:21 PM PDT by DB
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To: Jim Scott

What proof do you, O’Reilly or anyone have that it is bogus?


119 posted on 10/28/2009 5:57:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jean S

I say a pox on both of them. This woman had no clue about what she was doing in the first place and made those asking reasonable questions about zero’s birthplace look like a bunch of loons. BOR calls them loons outright. Not much difference.


120 posted on 10/28/2009 6:03:40 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Jean S

I have wondered if her becoming involved, which she did on her own volition, was a stealth maneuver to make the people with valid questions look like nutcases. Just a mild suspicion I have about her.


121 posted on 10/28/2009 6:14:20 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
embarrassing conservatives who actually believe there is a legitimate question surrounding the circumstances of his birth

That's a lie that been repeated over and over. It is NOT ONLY a conservative issue - many D's and R's have the same legitimate question!
122 posted on 10/28/2009 6:21:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: newgeezer

I am serious, but not very agile with html . Thank you.


123 posted on 10/28/2009 6:28:46 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: stockpirate

You’re just plain old wrong, stockpirate. The only one whose efforts I attack (tear down, in your words) is Orly Taitz for reasons which I’ve clearly explained, multiple times.

I’ve also clearly and repeatedly stated my contempt and disgust for Obama. I don’t believe the BC will resolve anything or that the courts have jurisdiction or that the plaintiffs thus far have standing. In your opinion, that makes me unsupportive.

You haven’t bothered to read my posts or you would know who I support and what methods I think are worthy of pursuing.


124 posted on 10/28/2009 6:48:43 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: holden

As I said, I was repeating the gist of what constitutional scholars had written during the last campaign, in reply to charges that McCain and Sen. Chris Dodd were not eligible for the presidency.

What, are you saying the Constitution says the president must be born with the United States, and not a “natural born” citizen?

The former is very precise. In Federalist Papers, the writers said they purposely used the latter as a vague term that Congress would later define.

Again, this is what all these scholars were writing when the questions were about McCain and Dodd.

You’re saying the Constitution doesn’t say “natural born” citizen? You’re saying Congress did not pass various laws decades ago to define that?

If the scholars were in error, in what precise ways. Again, I make no pretense of being a constitutional scholar. I just followed these opinion pieces with interest as a citizen born in U.S. who had children born abroad.

The scholars gave the same interpretation as did U.S. Embassy personnel giving me U.S. birth certificates, saying the children were eligible for the presidency.

I realize I am late to this argument, but pls enlighten me on specifics. Thanks.


125 posted on 10/28/2009 7:00:22 PM PDT by PenetratingMndFlame (http://www.penetratingmindflame.com/)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
So exactly where on this thread have you attempted to "discuss" a "point" or anything else? Tsk.


126 posted on 10/28/2009 7:05:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: stockpirate

When someone does legally remove Obama, I hope we see mass apologies from all the Birther Bashers. Also I worry how much the FR membership has been infiltrated by subversives. There are people here who look like their full time job is to support Obama. Subverting proper debate.


127 posted on 10/28/2009 8:23:18 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: DoughtyOne
"We know very little about his movement to Malaysia, and it’s requirements for schooling and how this period may have impacted his citizenship."

We do know how it may have impacted his citizenship. Not at all. Nothing that happened when he was a minor could have had any affect on his American citizenship.

"The media has tried to place this folks in a loony-bin lock box themselves, instead of realizing they have a point, and siding with them at least in part."

If want them to take questions about his history seriously, you don't further that cause by lumping it in with Birtherism. You've got to seperate out the legitimate questions from the kooky stuff. Not throw it all on one pot.

128 posted on 10/28/2009 8:23:56 PM PDT by mlo
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To: PenetratingMndFlame
This is a bunch of BS. Cite the exact quote in which Federalist Paper you refer to. What, are you saying the Constitution says the president must be born with the United States, and not a “natural born” citizen?

The former is very precise. In Federalist Papers, the writers said they purposely used the latter as a vague term that Congress would later define.

129 posted on 10/28/2009 8:41:05 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: newgeezer; MrsLilac

Funny at 73


130 posted on 10/28/2009 8:46:50 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (I'm Jim Thompson and I say our government is a joke and its current make up is the punch line.)
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To: BP2

A woman applying for a job in a Florida lemon grove seemed to be far too qualified for the job.
The foreman frowned and said, “I have to ask you this; “Have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?”
“Well, as a matter of fact, I have!” she replied. “I’ve been divorced three times, owned 2 Plymouths, and I voted for Obama.”


131 posted on 10/28/2009 8:47:34 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: mlo

MLO, what are your qualifications to make that assertion?

If his parents renounced his citizenship and declared him a Malaysian citizen, I’m not convinced he’s in like Flynt when he comes back.

Explain this a little further.

Futher I simply dismiss your assertion that his birth record questions exist only in the land of Kooksville.

In fact I would assert that making such a claim is in and of itself kook blather.


132 posted on 10/28/2009 8:50:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: DoughtyOne
"If his parents renounced his citizenship and declared him a Malaysian citizen, I’m not convinced he’s in like Flynt when he comes back."

It's been detailed here on FR in various discussions. US law does not allow parents to renounce the citizenship of a minor child, period. They can't do it.

Even as an adult, you have to go through a process. You can't do it accidentally.

"Futher I simply dismiss your assertion that his birth record questions exist only in the land of Kooksville.

In fact I would assert that making such a claim is in and of itself kook blather."

Well I didn't make that claim, so I'm not going to worry about it.

There are kooky questions, and there are non-kooky questions. But if you want serious questions taken seriously, don't lump them in with the kooky ones.

133 posted on 10/28/2009 9:12:31 PM PDT by mlo
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Fred Nerks

How much have you donated to FR since your dated “membership?”

Buahhahahahahhaha!


134 posted on 10/28/2009 9:28:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; stockpirate; LucyT
She's an attention whore...
Those of us who think Orly is a freak are just enjoying making fun of her.
It's about HER. She's a freak.

Very interesting...

In contemporary usage, the word "freak" is commonly used to refer to a person with something unusual about their appearance or behaviour. "Freak" in this sense may be used either as a pejorative, a term of admiration, or a self-description.

You must admire her very much since she also has qualities such as Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty. In any case, welcome to the Free Republic! I would like to recommend that you read the following threads, where you will find some very informative information. Enjoy your stay and remember the golden rule.


135 posted on 10/28/2009 10:50:15 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: meyer
Orly Taitz is a certifiable loon has filed several of the Obama birth certificate lawsuits. It is regrettable that she filed them though not for want of merit in the case. Rather she is completely inept in the courtroom, tends to file legally incorrect typo and spelling error-ridden motions, has a bad tendency of missing court deadlines for her filings, has an equally bad habit of actively antagonizing the judges and other attorneys in the courtroom (including ones on her own side of the case), and generally comes across like a rabid raving cat lady on television.

Orly is venerated by a small but loyal contingent here on FR despite all better judgment and evidence to the contrary. And if you remind them of that evidence (including the fact that as recently as 2006, Orly was dropping $1,000 checks to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, of which Hussein was a beneficiary), they will persist in ignoring it out of cultish devotion to Orly, then make unsubstantiated attacks on your own conservative credentials.

136 posted on 10/28/2009 11:05:51 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: conimbricenses
Orly Taitz is a certifiable loon...

So you are a psychiatrist? What university did you get your degree from and what area of psychiatry do you specialize in?

and btw, welcome to the Free Republic! I would like to recommend that you read the following threads, where you will find some very informative information. Enjoy your stay and remember the golden rule.


137 posted on 10/28/2009 11:17:16 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer
Some attributes are sufficiently obvious that any reasonably intelligent person may detect them.

Hussein's communist tendencies are one.

Orly's lunacy is another.

And the cult-like following that some around here give to Orly despite overwhelming evidence of her lunacy is a third.

138 posted on 10/28/2009 11:28:02 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: bustinchops
I have wondered if her becoming involved, which she did on her own volition, was a stealth maneuver to make the people with valid questions look like nutcases. Just a mild suspicion I have about her.

And it's an entirely reasonable suspicion. She and her followers have repelled honest journalists, attorneys and others who might have quietly and seriously worked on this issue.

She encourages people, over and over, to harass those who in any way oppose her or refuse to give her publicity. Anyone attempting to do serious research now has to contend with a siege mentality among bureaucrats and government workers who deal with a constant stream of crank phone calls, emails and faxes on a daily basis.

It's no wonder that most conservative talk show hosts, blog owners and Fox News steer clear of this issue. It's become a magnet for unhinged conspiracy theorists, some of whom care nothing about conservatism.

As the economy worsens and the destructive collectivist policies of Obama and the Dems go into effect, she has the potential to drive the unhinged over the edge, to the further detriment of us all.

Who sent Orly?

139 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:41 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: iowamark

“O’Reilly would love a rally with Orly protesting him.”

Orly would eat him up because she has the facts on her side. BOR only has his defense of obama on his side.


140 posted on 10/29/2009 12:11:35 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: mlo
"If his parents renounced his citizenship and declared him a Malaysian citizen, I’m not convinced he’s in like Flynt when he comes back."

It's been detailed here on FR in various discussions. US law does not allow parents to renounce the citizenship of a minor child, period. They can't do it.

Even as an adult, you have to go through a process. You can't do it accidentally.
<>As a matter of being accidental or not, there is a bit of logic here that I find troubling.

If what you say is true, a child could be born in the U.S., leave the very next day, live in a terrorist cell in Pakistan for forty plus years, then return to the United States 42 years later, and be sworn in as President that same day.  However unlikely that this would happen, it still could happen if your claim is true.  For that reason, I have to state that I find it difficult to accept your premise.

"Futher I simply dismiss your assertion that his birth record questions exist only in the land of Kooksville.

In fact I would assert that making such a claim is in and of itself kook blather."

Well I didn't make that claim, so I'm not going to worry about it.  Okay...

There are kooky questions, and there are non-kooky questions. But if you want serious questions taken seriously, don't lump them in with the kooky ones.

Who is to determine what is kooky or not?  James Carville thinks every question that has come to my mind about Obama is kooky.  You may think half my questions are kooky.  Someone else will think all my questions are reasoned.  Serious questions are serious questions no matter where they are found.

There are always reasoned answers to even the kookiest of questions, so dismissing them is pointless.


141 posted on 10/29/2009 12:26:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: Jean S

Fox should kick Oriley off the air, he’s not fit to even be called an american!


142 posted on 10/29/2009 12:27:49 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: browardchad

Exactly. Who sent Orly? Why Orly? Why did she insinuate herself into the issue?


143 posted on 10/29/2009 3:08:55 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Candor7

Probably more than you. I’m a monthly donor and I donate extra during most freep-a-thons. How about you?


144 posted on 10/29/2009 4:12:19 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: browardchad
Who sent Orly?

What if she decided to go all on her own?

145 posted on 10/29/2009 4:14:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Brown Deer; conimbricenses
and btw, welcome to the Free Republic!

Conimbricenses has been here for two years.

146 posted on 10/29/2009 4:16:55 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: DoughtyOne
We know very little about his movement to Malaysia, and it’s requirements for schooling and how this period may have impacted his citizenship.

OK, I'll bite. Just when the heck did Obama go to Malaysia?

147 posted on 10/29/2009 4:19:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: bustinchops
Welcome to the Free Republic! I would like to recommend that you read the following threads, where you will find some very informative information. Enjoy your stay and remember the golden rule.


148 posted on 10/29/2009 5:52:15 AM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: plenipotentiary

There are plenty of Obama supporters here on FR. Sad thing is the mods sometimes just allow them to stay and cause disruptions.


149 posted on 10/29/2009 6:12:53 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: parsifal
parsy, who is not a snob


150 posted on 10/29/2009 8:20:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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