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EBay refuses benefit auction for Roeder
KansasCity.com ^ | Oct 27, 2009 | Judy L. Thomas

Posted on 10/28/2009 6:58:16 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814

An eBay auction planned by abortion opponents to raise money for the man accused of killing Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller will not be permitted, company officials said Tuesday.

“Based on the details we know about the anticipated listings, we believe these would violate our policy regarding offensive material,” the company said in a statement to The Kansas City Star. “EBay will not permit the items in question to be posted to the eBay site, and they will be removed if they are posted.”

The announcement came the same day that Tiller’s family implored eBay to prevent the auction.

“These materials contain hate messages, glorify violence against abortion doctors who provide constitutionally protected medical services, and instruct on means of violence, including bombing, of abortion clinics,” said Lee Thompson, an attorney for the Tiller family, in a letter sent to eBay on Tuesday and approved by Tiller’s widow, Jeanne Tiller.

“We urge you to deny access to the resources of eBay for this reprehensible and vile ‘auction.’ ”

The auction was intended to raise money for the defense of Scott Roeder, who is charged with first-degree murder in Tiller’s death and is scheduled to go on trial in January. Currently, Roeder is being represented by public defenders.

Roeder’s supporters are encouraging him to use a “necessity defense,” saying that Tiller’s killing on May 31 was an act of justifiable homicide. Other anti-abortion activists charged with violent crimes have tried to use such a defense, but with little success.

Those working on the fundraiser said banning the auction was a violation of their rights.

“They’re not only chilling the First Amendment of the Constitution, they’re raping the whole Constitution,” said Regina Dinwiddie, a Kansas City abortion opponent and friend of Roeder.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: abortion; georgetiller; prolife; scottroeder
While one can agree or disagree with the wisdom of a private company banning a particular auction it's hardly a violation of the First Amendment, let alone the rape of the Constitution.
1 posted on 10/28/2009 6:58:17 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814
While one can agree or disagree with the wisdom of a private company banning a particular auction it's hardly a violation of the First Amendment, let alone the rape of the Constitution.

From my experience, few of these folks have even read the Constitution.

2 posted on 10/28/2009 7:02:42 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
what books were they going to sell with the information in it to make bombs and such? Or was this a fund raiser? If it simply was a fund raiser then who else had had them and what are their guide line for such fund raiser?
3 posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:18 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Why would anyone hold a benefit auction for a murderer? Although I’m anti-abortion, I won’t support murder in the name of anti-abortion.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:57 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Yet the cop killer can sell his crap there:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Live-from-Death-Row,-Mumia-Abu-Jamal_W0QQitemZ350262842353QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091009?IMSfp=TL091009161005r38706


5 posted on 10/28/2009 7:06:31 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Is EBay the next GeoCities?


6 posted on 10/28/2009 7:06:38 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: icwhatudo
EBAY

Cop Killers OK, Baby killer killers not OK?

7 posted on 10/28/2009 7:09:01 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
I just went to ebay and looked at the categories and there is a adults only section by clicking on yes I'm 18 it takes to the ebay porn site. There is no logging in to verify your age so in my opinion it is a open porn site for any curious under aged person to look around with over 140,000 items to look at.
8 posted on 10/28/2009 7:12:28 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: icwhatudo

It should also be noted that Ebay allows auctions for the book, “The Anarchist Cookbook”. A bit hypocritical, that...


9 posted on 10/28/2009 7:12:31 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Ebay porn...meh, no big deal. While I’ll grant you that an underage person can see lots of naked people by going there, this is also the case with the entire internet. It’s simply part of modern life, and will be for the forseeable future.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 7:16:38 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: aimhigh

Can’t be any worse than a “Free Mumia” fund.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 7:18:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

They should re-purpose the auction to the legal defense of people, unnamed, accused of crimes related to any effort to eliminate abortion. E.g., create an Anti-Abortion Legal Defense Fund.


12 posted on 10/28/2009 7:22:25 PM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

the problem I have is that you can not pay for legal firearms with paypal but you can buy porn? Whats up with that and I have no problem with of age people looking at porn I use to back when I was much younger then it just become the old in and out.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 7:23:19 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: aimhigh

I’m with you.


14 posted on 10/28/2009 7:25:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
“They’re not only chilling the First Amendment of the Constitution, they’re raping the whole Constitution,” said Regina Dinwiddie, a Kansas City abortion opponent and friend of Roeder.”

Either Ms. Dinwiddle is a moron, or I missed the eBay clause in the Constitution.

15 posted on 10/28/2009 7:29:00 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: guitarplayer1953
What's up with that is that PayPal (which is now owned by Ebay, BTW) doesn't like guns, but does like porn. Since they're a private company, that's their business. If you disapprove you can choose not to do business with them, which is just as it should be.

As for the availability of pornography, I'm afraid it's simply part of life now. I recall seeing a scene on tv in which the father wants to give "The Talk" to his adolescent son. The son stops him immediately, pointing out that since he has internet access, there's no point.

16 posted on 10/28/2009 7:33:33 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: guitarplayer1953

I commend Ebay for this. To raise money to defend a man who murdered someone in cold blood is despicable and I want to know who hear defends this.


17 posted on 10/28/2009 7:42:26 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: aimhigh

The same people here would be in an UPROAR if Ebay held an auction to raise money for, let’s say, MUMIA. It’s the same thing. Oh, the screaming that would be going on here.


18 posted on 10/28/2009 7:44:06 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

But eBay would not care in that case.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 8:51:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think they would if there was an outcry...yes, I do. First and foremost they are a business.


21 posted on 10/28/2009 9:01:09 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

ONLY when an outcry happened.


22 posted on 10/28/2009 9:02:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Have there ever been benefit auctions on ebay!! Anyway, it is their business and they can run it as the wish.


23 posted on 10/28/2009 9:08:55 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So what? This is such a non-story. Do you really support a man who murdered someone? I’m sorry..I don’t get it.


24 posted on 10/28/2009 9:09:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: icwhatudo
The seller is “Pacific Book Exchange”, do you have a problem reading.
25 posted on 10/28/2009 9:11:13 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Hildy

You wouldn’t be calling it a non story if, in fact, it WAS a non story for you. I conclude it is a story for you.


26 posted on 10/28/2009 9:11:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: org.whodat

And they are by no means immune from any reaction we choose to their hypocrisy. So there.


27 posted on 10/28/2009 9:12:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No one said you had to do business with them!!
28 posted on 10/28/2009 9:14:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

I look for almost any other vendor before considering eBay.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 9:16:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
It should also be noted that Ebay allows auctions for the book, “The Anarchist Cookbook”. A bit hypocritical, that...

I don't know that the AC trumpets and celebrates the murder of a specific person. The family of the victim requested these items be taken down, and I can see why... Does anyone really think that the following is not offensive to a victim's family?

One drawing was of David and Goliath that depicted David holding the head of Goliath and the name “Tiller” on Goliath’s forehead. The words “child-murdering industry” were written on the corpse.
And Wesley Cook, aka Mumia, doesn't go around trumpeting and celebrating Officer Faulkner's death. He's disgusting and should be wormfood, but this issue is very different. A cold-blooded murder is being celebrated.
30 posted on 10/28/2009 9:41:43 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
I don't know that the AC trumpets and celebrates the murder of a specific person.

I don't believe it does (I can't check because ironically I sold my copy on Ebay some years ago). When I said it was "a bit hypocritical" I was mistakenly attributing the statement about bombing to Ebay, when it was actually made by an attorney for the Tiller family.

(Note to self: Self, make sure you read what you copy & paste a bit more carefully in the future.)

I agree that it was wholly appropriate to remove the auction.

31 posted on 10/28/2009 10:35:18 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I look for almost any other vendor before considering eBay.

Welcome to America.

32 posted on 10/29/2009 1:10:20 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I just find it hypocritical to say the least. sure they are a private company and can do what ever they want kind of like the ‘government is now they will stick it down our throats and then say stick it up your arse if we don’t like it. welcome to the USSA.


33 posted on 10/29/2009 2:05:36 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Hildy

Ask the children who tiller the killer killed if they thought their deaths were in cold blood.
To me this man is a hero the same as the people who strung up Mussolini and hunted down Nazis.


34 posted on 10/29/2009 2:09:07 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Thank you for identifying yourself as the nut you are.


35 posted on 10/29/2009 5:51:23 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Hopefully tiller went straight to hell and all the aborted children went straight to heaven and may all the women who killed their unborn children be tormented with nightmares the rest of their days. And never find grace with God.
36 posted on 10/29/2009 7:20:26 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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