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Obama Concludes U.S. Can't Beat Taliban; May Wait Until Late November for Afghan Decision
Thursday, October 29, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/28/2009 9:09:58 PM PDT by kristinn

The Washington Post reports tonight that Barack Obama and top administration officials have concluded the Taliban cannot be beaten and that they are looking for ways to cede parts of Afghanistan to the Taliban without those regions becoming safe havens for al Qaeda.

The article also reports that Obama may wait until after he returns from a 10 day visit to Asia that begins November 11 to decide his policy for Afghanistan.

The Post article is largely about Obama's request made this week, two months after he received Gen. Stanley McChrystal's request for tens of thousands more troops to fulfill Obama's counter-insuregency strategy announced in March, for a province-by-province review of Afghanistan. Apparently this has not been done before in the administration's laborious review process.

Obama officials say they will not allow the Taliban "to threaten the Kabul government or provide sanctuary for al-Qaeda."

The Post describes Obama's defeatist attitude about the invincibility of the Taliban:

In reviewing McChrystal's bracing assessment of the war, the president and his senior advisers have concluded that the Taliban cannot be eliminated as a military and political force, regardless of how many more troops are deployed.


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God help our troops.

IMPEACH OBAMA!

1 posted on 10/28/2009 9:09:58 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Obama’s ‘acceptable losses’.
2 posted on 10/28/2009 9:12:35 PM PDT by allmost
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To: kristinn

Our military can’t beat a bunch of mountain huggers in sandals.

Damn right it’s time to start impeachment hearings.


3 posted on 10/28/2009 9:12:43 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: kristinn

They need to stop trying to avoid civilian casualties and go back to using a Rolling Thunder strategy. Since WWII we have not tried for outright victory, always trying to get to a point where there’s a negotiated solution but history bears out that only victory leads to peace. Everywhere else there has been armed truces and low level hostilities following inconclusive wars.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 9:13:05 PM PDT by JMS
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To: kristinn

Shouldn’t come as a surprise. He did say in his book, he would stand Muslim...


5 posted on 10/28/2009 9:13:19 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: kristinn
Barack Obama and top administration officials have concluded the Taliban cannot be beaten

I have to say that I agree with Obama. With Obama as POTUS, the Taliban can not and will not be beaten. (please read between the lines before yelling at me.)

6 posted on 10/28/2009 9:13:48 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: kristinn

One sacrifices himself to serve his nation.

One sacrifices the nation to serve himself.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 9:14:31 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: kristinn

Just like a leftist, liberal democract to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

We can win. We choose not to.

Honestly - if we’re going to fight like this just bring them all home. I see no need - none - to have any of our bravest die for this “plan”.


8 posted on 10/28/2009 9:14:49 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: kristinn

Coward-in-Chief


9 posted on 10/28/2009 9:15:24 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: kristinn

Send in the planes and take our military out of BO’s trap!


10 posted on 10/28/2009 9:15:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: kristinn
Bring 'em home.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 9:15:45 PM PDT by Carling (Nobelgate: Obama's Waterloo)
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To: staytrue

Could not agree more. With him as POTUS, America can never win a war.


12 posted on 10/28/2009 9:16:44 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: presently no screen name

Fight to win or don’t fight. This halfway crap doesn’t do anything besides get people killed for no reason / gain.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 9:17:37 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: kristinn

Right after the next elections. just a coincidence.


14 posted on 10/28/2009 9:19:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: kristinn

Bring the Troops home NOW, idiotic moron!!!


15 posted on 10/28/2009 9:19:24 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Saoirise; HollyB; MestaMachine; mojitojoe; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Vn_survivor_67-68; ...

Ping


16 posted on 10/28/2009 9:19:52 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: kristinn

OH MY GOD!!!!!

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SURRENDERING!!!


17 posted on 10/28/2009 9:19:54 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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Obama dithers while morale withers.


18 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:30 PM PDT by P H Lewis (One of the fundamentals of democracy is knowing where to place your machine gun. - Foggy)
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To: kristinn

It’s 1968 all over again. How long before we helicopters removing people from the roofs of the US embassy and other facilities in Kabul?


19 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kristinn

Here you have a “CIC” admitting defeat. Has this EVER happened in the history of the USA? Go ahead ZERO, give aid and comfort to our enemies and see how well that works. When, I ask, will we see the day when this country has had it with this TRAITOR! He isn’t fit to shine the shoes of our brave fighting men and women he says he respects. Impeach this traitor IMMEDIATELY!


20 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:48 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: kristinn

The war will not end, it will just come back here.


21 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:53 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: kristinn

I can’t use the profanity I’d like to right now, since it would get me very, very banned. Are we about to fail Afghanistan AGAIN the same way we did before??? When we helped them run the Russians out, that was the time to become Afghanistan’s new best friend — and instead we abandoned them. We’re about to do it again. God have mercy on that cretin Obama’s soul, because if this report is true, he’s about to do a very, very wicked thing.


22 posted on 10/28/2009 9:21:17 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (PETRAEUS IN 2012 ..... PETRAEUS IN 2012 ..... PETRAEUS IN 2012)
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To: Personal Responsibility

He doesn’t give a flip for our military. I say they come home now! One more life lost is not worth it while he is the occupant of OUR house.


23 posted on 10/28/2009 9:21:27 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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By the way, how did Obama do on the course today? How is that new putter working out?


24 posted on 10/28/2009 9:22:18 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: kristinn

Well at least we’ll have some more photo ops from mrs. obama coming with the troops. /sarc


25 posted on 10/28/2009 9:22:20 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: kristinn

God in Heaven, hear our prayer.
End this madness .. protect
our troops.


26 posted on 10/28/2009 9:22:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: exit82
Damn right it’s time to start impeachment hearings.

It may be time, but the 'Rats have overwhelming control of the House. Remember 2006 and 2008 elections? Which were ostensible about the "Culture of Corruption" As Rush says, Elections have consequences, and the hangover from these two is going to be a real humdinger.

27 posted on 10/28/2009 9:23:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Vince Ferrer
The war will not end, it will just come back here.

Bingo.

28 posted on 10/28/2009 9:23:48 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: STARWISE

Amen.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 9:24:09 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: El Gato
Obama Concludes U.S. Can't Beat Taliban; May Wait Until Late November for Afghan Decision

I guess we'll just wait to see what Afghan refugees in the U.S. have to say in response if he ends up getting their families killed by the Taliban by his dithering dilettantism.
30 posted on 10/28/2009 9:24:36 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: 444Flyer

No truer words ...

Our terrorism risk just escalated 1000%.

God help us .. can’t be said enough.

Pray .. with all your heart and might.


31 posted on 10/28/2009 9:24:38 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: kristinn

>> WAPO reports that Barack Obama and top administration officials have concluded the Taliban cannot be beaten ...

>> Obama officials say they will not allow the Taliban ...

Does not jive.


32 posted on 10/28/2009 9:25:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: kristinn

My God.


34 posted on 10/28/2009 9:26:51 PM PDT by txroadkill ( 9/12/2009 another win for the Gipper!)
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To: kristinn
the president and his senior advisers have concluded that the Taliban cannot be eliminated as a military and political force, regardless of how many more troops are deployed.

I'd like to know how this moron and his advisers could come to a conclusion for which they have no background or expertise to make. Oh, wait, it was a predetermined conclusion that depended on leftist principles, not reality.
35 posted on 10/28/2009 9:27:24 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: STARWISE

Obama: Taking the war to our shores...


36 posted on 10/28/2009 9:27:26 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: kristinn
"...looking for ways to cede parts of Afghanistan to the Taliban..."

Sorry Zero...Afghanistan is not YOURS to "cede" to anyone.

A more truthful read of that statement is, "Obama camp looking for way to chicken out, and still save face".

Somebody please impeach this jerk
37 posted on 10/28/2009 9:28:39 PM PDT by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: aruanan

He came to the conclusion before his took the Oath of Office. Then his new ROE so our military would be sitting ducks and now ....

Anyone doubt his allegiance to USA?


38 posted on 10/28/2009 9:30:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 444Flyer

NO TRUER WORDS EVER SPOKEN !!

IMPEACHMENT NOW !!


39 posted on 10/28/2009 9:30:59 PM PDT by W-Girl
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To: El Gato

EG, I am aware of the make-ep of the House.

But what is right is right, and just as the Blue Dogs know their re-election is hanging in the balance over the healthcare bill, even an attempt to get impeachment hearings started by the GOP would go a long way to doing to Obama what the Dems did to Bush for 8 years.

It will drive Zero’s ratings further down, becasue this clown can never be re-elected. Our country won’t survive a second Obama term.

You’re right though, the legacy of the corrupt GOP, and the Dem majorities produced by the 2006 and 2008 elections will have long reaching consequences.


40 posted on 10/28/2009 9:32:08 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: STARWISE
“God help us .. can’t be said enough.

Pray .. with all your heart and might.”

I will. God save us from this treasonous cowardly Red college professor.

More importantly, God save our Troops from him.

41 posted on 10/28/2009 9:32:34 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: teletech
Here you have a “CIC” admitting defeat. Has this EVER happened in the history of the USA?

Ever hear of Vietnam? Uncle Walter (Cronkite of See BS) said that war was unwinable too, after LBJ had denied the military the opportunity to win by.. radical concept here.. defeating the enemy in the field and on his home territory. LBJ believed him and threw in the towel, slowly. Nixon wasn't much interested in winning either, but went instead for Peace with Honor, but there was jo honor in abandoning those you came to defend, such abandonment was driven by the 'Rats in Congress more so than even Nixon and Henry the K.

42 posted on 10/28/2009 9:32:45 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kristinn

What a coward and disgrace.


43 posted on 10/28/2009 9:33:37 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: kristinn

What Hath God Wrought?


44 posted on 10/28/2009 9:33:44 PM PDT by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: 444Flyer

He’ll bring our boys home - and our enemies with them.


45 posted on 10/28/2009 9:34:43 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Vince Ferrer
The war will not end, it will just come back here.

There is that. And it's what makes this situation so much different than our last "Second Place Finish" in the Southeast Asian War Games. We won't be seeing American GI's returning to Afghanistan as tourists in 20 or 30 years.

46 posted on 10/28/2009 9:34:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kristinn

What next from this fool? A proclamation that socialism is inevitable?


47 posted on 10/28/2009 9:35:30 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: STARWISE; 444Flyer

So afraid for our troops. So afraid for our country. I shudder.
My Dear Lord, protect our troops. Protect this country from the darkness that is so rapidly forming around it. Show us the light and we will find our way to it. Please, Dear G-d. No more of this evil must befall this country. Your children weep with helplessness. YOU have always been our strength. Please, Dear G-d, help us to defeat this madness. Give us the courage to do what we must.
Amen.


48 posted on 10/28/2009 9:37:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: kristinn
The Post describes Obama's defeatist attitude about the invincibility of the Taliban:

Please. It's clear that the Kenyan Clown is heavily invested in the U.S. failing — Barack Hussein Obama hates and despises this country, and he will relish victory for the Taliban.

49 posted on 10/28/2009 9:38:06 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: FrankR

God didn’t bring this on us. EVIL HAS!


50 posted on 10/28/2009 9:38:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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