Mother facing prosecution 'for asking for ethnic hospital staff to be removed from birthing room'

Daily Mail ^ | October 29, 2009 | Andrew Levy

[bogusname]

A mother is facing action under race discrimination laws after objecting to ethnic minority hospital staff being present at the birth of her child. The woman was about to undergo a caesarean section when she made her demand. It was not clear yesterday whether she was referring to black employees, those of Asian origin, or any other staff working at Milton Keynes Hospital in Buckinghamshire. But an insider said: ‘The mother objected to one type of ethnic minority members of staff being there.’ The woman, who was accompanied by her partner for the delivery earlier this month, gave birth to a healthy child.

The hospital yesterday claimed the woman’s demands were dismissed and the delivery was overseen by a team that was ‘not all-white’ ...

[tdscpa]

Sorry. I didn’t read down far enough before I posted some of my recent experience.

[DannyTN]

I know I wouldn’t want a Muslim involved in the delivery of one of my kids. Not because of race, or even that they are a different religion than mine. But because of what their specific religion teaches about the “infidel”. It’s a trust factor.

[bogusname]

In my opinion there are several good reasons not to have a muslim in the delivery room.

[tdscpa]

In my opinion there are several good reasons not to have a muslim in the country.

[bogusname]

LOL Amen!

[itssme]

I had a very unpleasant experience with a recent admission to a hospital. The medications given caused frequent trips to the bathroom. With the use of only one arm, (the other arm was stearing an IV pole) I needed help in the bathroom, and the only nurse's aids I had were MALE...sorry, but what the hell has happened to the availability of female nurse's aids in hospitals (also known as Patient Service Aids)? Female nurses/nurse's aids YES! Males NO! IMHO.

[heartwood]

Many male patients might prefer a male aide so it works for them. But you can always ask if someone of the same sex is available and the hospital should accomodate if feasible.

[Sir_Ed]

I wouldn’t want a devout Muslim to operate on me...they won’t use alcohol to scrub down, they regard us as infidels, and I would want them to leave.

Ed

[bogusname]

Well, I just happen to agree with you.

[x_plus_one]

The NHS has lost control of its hospitals. Asian women refusing to wash hands and wear gloves due to 'religious reasons' is one source of MRSA and other hospital contagions.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if Mrs. Mohammed asks for all christians to leave the room for her birthing of her 21st welfare recipient child that her wishes would be respected.

[ketelone]

What in the world are you talking about? Noone who doesnt wash hands in a hospital would be allowed to work there for the time it takes for a lightning bolt to cross the sky.

Please, Im sure you have many good points to make, but dont make stuff up.

[ketelone]

Oh really? How exactly does paying your insurance qualify you to demand hospital staff of your own color? I would say, yes, if youre rich enough to own your own hospital, then go ahead, and use the staff you want. Until then, stop inconveniencing people who are also doing their jobs, with your idiotic demands. After all, tomorrow if I walked into a store, and said “I only want to be served by a white clerk cuz Im paying with my own 15$, and not food stamps”, well, I dont think Id get much service.

[Arrowhead1952]

I would never argue with a woman in that situation.

I agree with that statement 100000000%.

[staytrue]

If you are paying, I think you get to chose. If someone else is paying you don’t.

If you want to buy a car from a white salesman and you are paying, you get to chose. If the welfare dept. is paying for you car, you don’t.

[itssme]

If only that were possible...short staffing being what it is, choices are not an option...the staff was harried to the point where they just ran into your room and ran out afterward...not good. I use to work at this hospital at a time when they were rated A-1, and it doesn't bode well for future admissions.

[heartwood]

I asked not to have a male nurse three years ago and was accomodated.

[heartwood]

In England some Muslim women doctors and nurses are arguing for the right to keep their sleeves to their wrists. Other Muslims do not want to use alcohol gel.

In this country I’ve seen lots of personnel not wash their hands - from haste, not because they refuse or don’t know better.

[CodeToad]

I bet that person who was asked to leave was a Muslim and the lady never said “all white”

[x_plus_one]

Perhaps this detachment from the kuffar (non-muslim) patients explains why a male muslim nurse could be so callous as to leave a dying patient covered in his own vomit for hours. Looks like Muhammed Shakeel had other priorities. I wonder if the dying man had MRSA?

Then we find recalcitrant female muslim medical students who snubbed hospital cleanliness procedures:

"Medics in hospitals in at least three major English cities have refused to follow the regulations aimed at helping tackle superbugs because of their faith, it has been revealed."

"But female Muslim students training in hospitals in England have refused to implement the directive because Islam forbids women exposing more than their hands and face in public." LINK

They have threatened to leave their studies if forced to comply - I say GOOD RIDDANCE!

No surprise that these female students were backed up by the Islamic Medical Association.

One hospital - whose adminstrator clearly still possesses a backbone - recently fired a female muslim radiographer who pulled the "don't want to roll up my sleeves" nonsense. (Didn't these people receive proper training in washing hands and cleanliness around patients when in training PRIOR to choosing a career in medicine?)

"The radiographer was told by managers at the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading that she must either follow the national dress code designed to combat superbugs and roll her sleeves up, or leave. "

This woman - who supposedly feels so strongly about her religious beliefs - yet doesn't want to be identified - has vowed to campaign against the NHS's "bare below the elbows" policy.

"The woman, who did not want to be identified, said she wants to "prevent the policy from being universally applied, so other Muslim women do not experience the same trauma."

Something tells me she's a far less traumatised then the patient who is dying from MRSA infection complications. More likely than not she's looking for some financial compensation to assuage her "trauma".

Now comes a report that muslim doctors and nurses are refusing to use alcohol based gels to combat the fast spreading swine flu.

"Some Muslims have refused to use alcohol-based hand gels to combat the spread of swine flu because they claim it is against their religion."

Of course these dhimmified hospital officials - you know the people I mean - the ones who are supposed to oversee the medical staff and ensure the hygenic rules are being followed - after some teech-chattering, nail-biting and knee-knocking at the thought of offending muslims - have allowed muslim medical staff to use the far less effective non-alcohol based gels.

Clearly the attitude is "to hell with the patients - muslim sensitivities come first!"

It is interesting to note how the muslims exhibit a complete lack of concern about risks to patient's health and the spread of the superbugs when it suits muslim "religious" needs to avoid the rules of hygiene ----- yet will use 'concern' for patient's healthcare issues to justify the wearing of muslim clothing - in this case the hijab - while working in a surgical setting.

"Hospitals should allow Muslim women to wear a "theatre hijaab" in surgical environments, doctors have heard.....Ms Talukdar, 25, said the hijaab would be made from sterile material so it was completely risk-free to the patient. "We are very aware that MRSA and infection is a concern. We do not want to put patients at risk.""

[ketelone]

Sure. But thats when youre doing the chosing. You dont walk into a store and say, “Throw this salesman out, because he’s XYZ race”. At most, you can exercise your choice to just not go to that store. In my opinion, thats where your choice ends. You cant start dictating staffing policy to a store, once youve decided to buy from it. Thats like having your cake and eating it too. And lets be honest, for 15 bucks, no store is going to set about changing its labor policies.