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Dog attack kills Prescott 2-year-old (Dog of Peace alert)
Arkansas Democrat Gazette (subscription may be needed) ^ | 29 OCT 09 | GINNY LAROE

Posted on 10/29/2009 7:31:48 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 10/29/2009 7:58:33 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A 2-year-old boy died after a chained-up pit-bull terrier in a neighbor’s backyard attacked him Wednesday morning in Prescott, police said.

The boy and his 3-year-old brother wandered out of their home about 9 a.m. and made their way into an unfenced yard two houses away where two dogs were chained up, police said.


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I keep hearing that these dogs are peaceful and these occurances are rare......
1 posted on 10/29/2009 7:31:49 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: Chet 99
PING

BARK!

BITE!

2 posted on 10/29/2009 7:34:06 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: DCBryan1
Then again, why was the Mother of the 2 AND 3 year old not aware that her children got out of the house and two doors down?
3 posted on 10/29/2009 7:35:13 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Eating corn is pointless.)
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To: DCBryan1

parent of the year award may be in order.

9 AM.

Parent (singular) was sleeping.

BOTH kids untended.

Worth a harder look into whether someone shares in the blame.

Tragic nonetheless.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 7:36:32 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: DCBryan1
The older boy, who was not injured, went home and woke his mother,...

There's Your Sign!!

5 posted on 10/29/2009 7:37:59 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: DCBryan1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2373385/posts

Previous story indicated that the toddler wandered away from his babysitter’s house. Probably incompetent reporting, but a strange change in the tale.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 7:38:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: DCBryan1

In their defense, how many times has a pit bull non-attack made the news?


7 posted on 10/29/2009 7:39:37 AM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

so lets get this straight. 2 children, 2 and 3, leave their house, walk two houses down, see 2 dogs that are chained up, and go up to the dogs.. and its the DOGS’ fault?

if charges get filed it should be against the mother for neglect.


8 posted on 10/29/2009 7:39:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: DCBryan1

9 posted on 10/29/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: TexasCajun

This is a horrid horrid story but the dogs were in their own yard and chained.

So they go after the dog owner for perhaps a rabies shot violation but do nothing about the parent/ babysitter who let a 2 yo and a 3 yo wander out of a house>

what crap


10 posted on 10/29/2009 7:41:05 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: DCBryan1

Moat dogs on a tie up will protect its territory. In fact, it actually makes them more aggressive. But a pit bull on one? Wow. Regardless of whether or not the owner was within the law, the owner is just stupid.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 7:43:02 AM PDT by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: DCBryan1

Arkansas...


12 posted on 10/29/2009 7:43:46 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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And yes, the mom should be charged with criminal neglect.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 7:44:23 AM PDT by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: absolootezer0

Bingo!


14 posted on 10/29/2009 7:49:45 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Eating corn is pointless.)
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To: absolootezer0
.. and its the DOGS’ fault?

Good question, since clearly these toddlers were a threat. /s

Any dog that will maul A 2-YEAR-OLD needs to be put down. Or have we regressed so far backward into barbarism that domesticated animals are out of favor?
15 posted on 10/29/2009 7:55:08 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: DCBryan1

And, if you want to hear more, tune into the ultra liberal Austin, TX news stations that show Pet of the Day/Week. Lots of pit bull and PBmixes at the shelters so they are touting how good these dogs are and that they are only trouble if they are taught to do so!!!

People are walking them in the parks with the muzzle leashes not caring that if they stumble or faint that their dog could injure or kill children.


16 posted on 10/29/2009 7:55:52 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: rintense

In some places it’s against the law to keep a dog tethered.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 7:59:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: RWGinger
Although I agree they should charge the parent/babysitter for neglect, they should go after the owners for the rabies shot violation despite the attack. Dog owners should be responsible, getting their pets vaccinated and IMHO, owners of what are deemed to be dangerous breeds of dogs should have a fence to prevent just these types of incidents.

My 12 y/o Collie/St. Bernard is way more vicious than my German Shepherd puppy is, but I just made sure the GS had his annual shots last week on schedule...even though my husband is unemployed right now and we really couldn't afford it... because I know people are afraid of the GS and will overreact if something does happen. We have a 6 ft. fence around our property with do not trespass and beware of dog signs posted everywhere, not just to protect people from my dogs, but to protect my dogs from frivilous charges well.

18 posted on 10/29/2009 8:01:43 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: LearsFool

yeah, keep blaming the DOG.
the blame should be on whomever was responsible for watching those kids. if they had been doing their job, this wouldn’t have happened.

also, due to the extreme young age of the children, we’ll never know what provoked the mauling. children this age don’t know better. i’ve watched my niece run full force in to my in-law’s st bernard, grab it by the ears and try to climb on her back. sure, that dog is used to it, but how do you suppose other dogs would act to this treatment?


19 posted on 10/29/2009 8:03:06 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: DCBryan1

I have been told, repeatedly, that attacks like this are rare.


20 posted on 10/29/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: LearsFool

No one’s blaming the toddlers for doing what free-range toddlers do. Clearly, the snoozing mom gets the biggest piece of this pie.


21 posted on 10/29/2009 8:21:29 AM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: absolootezer0
how do you suppose other dogs would act to this treatment?

Time was, when a dog that reacted "in self-defense" against a harmless - albeit annoying - toddler was simply not tolerated. I'm sorry, but I can find no comprehensible justification for a dog attacking a 2-year-old.

Dogs are expected to be domesticated, i.e. fit to be around humans. Some clearly fail to meet that criterion.
22 posted on 10/29/2009 8:30:44 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: DCBryan1

Plenty of blame to go around here. The mother or babysitter (there seem to be conflicting reports as to who was “watching” the chidren) is the primary culprit. You simply cannot allow toddlers to wander the streets. Criminal charges should be filed against the person who was responsible for supervising the child.

The dog owner may or may not be legally responsible, but keeping a pitbull chained in an unfenced yard is irresponsible. Chaining dogs causes them to become territorial and aggressive and pitbulls are predisposed to aggression and have tremendous killing power.

Finally, the dog deserves blame. I believe it should be put down. An animal that will attack and kill a child, even if provoked, is not a suitable pet. I am not saying that all pitbulls are unsuitable as pets, but this one has killed a child, and is clearly dangerous.

I think pitbulls can be great dogs, but the vast majority of people lack the knowledge, skills and responsbility to handle them.


23 posted on 10/29/2009 8:33:36 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Julia H.

You simply can’t leave toddlers unattended; this is really what the root cause is for so many tragedies like backyard pool drownings, dog maulings, strangulation from window-blind drawstrings, and so on. I learned early on with my kids that toddlers can be surprisingly adept at getting into dangerous situations. My son, two-years-old at the time, managed to climb over a six foot fence when I thought he was safe in the backyard, and he was attempting to cross into the backyard two houses away when I discovered him missing. There were dogs in that yard, and we think that is what attracted him. As I recall, these seemed to be friendly dogs, and I don’t think they would have been a danger, but there was also a pool in that yard.


24 posted on 10/29/2009 8:56:25 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: LearsFool

and i find no justification for 2-3 year old children to be out wandering the streets alone.


25 posted on 10/29/2009 8:59:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: ravingnutter

Just an FYI for the future, local rescues do vaccinations clinics throughout the year in most areas of the country, often charging only 10 bucks per vaccine (rabies, DHPP). Craigslist pet section often has announcements about low-cost vaccine clinics. Also, depending on your vet, you might be able to get away with just the vaccine cost vs. paying the office visit. At my vet, they will charge just for vaccine ($16) unless client requests appt w/ exam. Doesn’t hurt to ask.

Depending on how you feel about vaccines and the status of the vector load in your area, in adult dogs you really only have to do rabies as required by law. Current thinking is that vaccines *might* confer lifelong immunity (the Rabies Challenge program is currently investigating whether the rabies vaccine confers 5-7 year, possibly lifelong, immunity).

Vet schools now encourage q 3yr (vs. old yearly protocol) core vaccines after puppy vaccine series and adult booster. Change in recommendations is due to increasing reports of vaccine reactions and vaccine induced disease. I don’t give my old dogs vaccines any longer other than rabies as required by law. My younger dog has a localized autoimmune issue and I haven’t vaccinated in four-five years other than rabies. He might get one more and then he will be done. My vet only vaccinates her dogs q 3yrs.

If this is stuff you already know, my apologies :-)


26 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:48 AM PDT by missycocopuffs
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To: absolootezer0

Well at least we agree on something.


27 posted on 10/29/2009 9:15:43 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ravingnutter

I agree absolutely.

And we don’t know, mayhbe they werre up to date

No matter how sad the situation is whoever neglected these 2 babies should be charged


28 posted on 10/29/2009 9:56:11 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: LearsFool

and probably on the fact that the dog does now need to be put down.

whether or not we agree that the dog is at fault, the fact remains that it has killed, and is more likely to kill again given the opportunity.


29 posted on 10/29/2009 10:11:16 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: missycocopuffs
Thanks for the info, but "Nutty Buddy"...although I call him "Goof" most of the time...is a special needs dog, and is very sensitive, so we are very careful about who handles him. Also, since we have two other senior dogs that are 10 and 12 y/o, we have to be careful that he does not have worms or any other communicable issues.

Before we adopted him, he was found with his littermates in a taped up box outside a fire station in 98 degree weather. Only two of the puppies survived and they had to rescusitate them. Apparently due to lack of oxygen to the brain, he is mentally unbalanced and will never grow up mentally, he will basically be an overgrown puppy the rest of his life. He has severe memory problems and the only people he allows near him are my husband and I as we are the only "constants" in his life, he forgets who other people are if they are not around every day. He reacts out of fear to anyone else, runs circles around them and barks viciously and it scares the heck out of people, but he has never bitten anyone.

We didn't know about the mental problems when we adopted him as he was only 6 weeks old, he is 2 y/o now. I kept telling my husband that something just wasn't right with him as he had a kind of blank look in his eyes. However, a dog is a life-long commitment in our eyes and we have vowed to keep him no matter what.

Also, our vet is very good with him as he understands the issues he has and is patient and gentle with him. We do muzzle him and we wait outside if there are other animals in the waiting room or if they don't have an exam room available right away because he wants to play with them, but he just doesn't realize how big he is and he is huge, even for a German Shepherd. Because of that, there really isn't any way we could take him to any type of public vaccination clinic.

30 posted on 10/29/2009 10:43:59 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: WakeUpAndVote
Yep, its the mothers fault /s.

I raised 5 and kids get out of the house without you knowing it unless you lock them in a cage,....

31 posted on 10/29/2009 11:17:28 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Julia H.
***In their defense, how many times has a pit bull non-attack made the news?***

Gee, thats a real intelligent comment.../s

How many times have non-murder make the news

How many hit and runs not made the news....

How many SUV's didn't hit anyone..

32 posted on 10/29/2009 11:22:36 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: rintense

Yep that mother should have kept her kids in a cage...she was neglectful.


33 posted on 10/29/2009 11:26:04 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: LearsFool

You think too clearly for pit lovers...its never the dog, its the victims....some sick puppies of the 2 legged kind.


34 posted on 10/29/2009 11:28:48 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Moonman62
If the dog had no rabies shot, thats the owners fault and he/she should be prosecuted and the dog put down. Its no different than having a tiger chained in your yard.

But gee whiz, its the 2 and 3 year olds fault. They opened a door when someones back was turned..like kids never do that......

The dog should be put down and the owner fined heavily..

35 posted on 10/29/2009 11:34:15 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: DCBryan1

Kill the dogs, kill them now, all pit bulls should be eliminated until the breed is gone, period.


36 posted on 10/29/2009 11:36:27 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: ravingnutter
***Although I agree they should charge the parent/babysitter for neglect, they should go after the owners for the rabies shot violation despite the attack. Dog owners should be responsible,***

Your first sentence is stupid...How many children have you raised? Kids get out of the house unless you cage them..No parent has eyes on kids 24/7. Mothers would not be able to clean house, wash clothes or fix meals. She would be sitting watching the children 24/7.

Dog is a dangerous animal...put it down... 10 kids could wander into my labs yard and all she would do is lick them clean......

37 posted on 10/29/2009 11:39:56 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny; Salamander; Markos33; LongElegantLegs; Slings and Arrows; Chet 99
"Gee, thats a real intelligent comment.../s

How many times have non-murder make the news

How many hit and runs not made the news....

How many SUV's didn't hit anyone.. "

EXACTLY!

That's why breed specific laws are so misguided.

If the issue were guns, nearly everyone on this forum would rally behind the call "Why is it that every time somebody kills someone with a gun, the libs want to take away the weapons from all the good citizens who didn't do it?"

Why does this impeccable logic seem to escape some when the issue is the responsible ownership of dogs being infringed because of the irresponsible acts of a few owners?


38 posted on 10/29/2009 11:44:31 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Moonman62

>>In some places it’s against the law to keep a dog tethered.<<

Goodness! Really?
Do you know where? (hope it’s not my area. My pup is on a stringer when she goes out)


39 posted on 10/29/2009 12:00:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: shibumi
"Gee, thats a real intelligent comment.../s You must have missed the /s at the end of my sentence..

Guns don't go off by themselves....there is no comparison. The straw dog, gun vs pit bull maulers has been tried before on threads that are about The Dog Of Peace...A gun sits on the table for decades and kills no one on its own..pit breeds and rottys do the most killing or mauling of all the hundreds dog breeds there are.. My sympathy is always with the victim not the perp.

40 posted on 10/29/2009 12:07:22 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: ravingnutter

Aww, sorry about your “Nutty Buddy.” We had a cat like that once...people would drop off cats near my parents’ farm. Momma kitty was probably taken by predators or hit and we found three very young kittens in the field. Two were already dead, one was in bad shape...dehydrated and starving, but we (and our dog who did the elimination stimulating) nursed the kitty back. She was always a little ‘off,’ though.

Bless you for taking Buddy in and providing such good care in spite of his less-than-good start in life.


41 posted on 10/29/2009 12:08:34 PM PDT by missycocopuffs
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To: goat granny
I've raised plenty of kids...some not even my own...and grandkids, aka "critters" in my house. If she can't keep track of them, then she apparently needs to put up a fence for her "critters". What if they had run out in the street and got hit? Would you also blame the driver that hit them? Same difference. If she doesn't take responsibility for her children, then she is stupid one.

As for the dog, I blame the owner as well, not the dog.

42 posted on 10/29/2009 12:12:42 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: goat granny

Nope.

Didn’t miss a thing.

Your reaction is exactly what I thought it would be.


43 posted on 10/29/2009 12:26:28 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: ravingnutter
I had 5 children in 6 1/2 years and Yes, once in a while one would go out without me knowing it...I lived on a court and at one time or another, some neighbor would be out looking for the 4 year old....

I commend you on your great parenting....../s

I just love the blame the victim people and not the killer or attacker.

44 posted on 10/29/2009 12:27:41 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: shibumi

you are cute........


45 posted on 10/29/2009 12:29:09 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: netmilsmom

Leashes are fine. In fact, that’s the law in most places. Tethered means tied to a spot in the yard unattended.


46 posted on 10/29/2009 12:51:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Phew!

We have the pup on one of those carriage stringers. When we go out, she is put on the front one if we are hanging by the house and the back one if we are hanging by the swingset.

I wish we had a fenced yard so she could run. Mostly she is a house dog anyway.


47 posted on 10/29/2009 12:59:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: goat granny
I commend you on your great parenting....../s

That's quite a leap you are taking there, from disagreeing with an opinion to an outright personal attack, don't you think? You don't know a danged thing about me or my parenting skills, so I would suggest you refrain from your snide comments on the matter, especially since you so clearly admit you can't control your own children.

48 posted on 10/29/2009 2:05:04 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: shibumi
Why does this impeccable logic seem to escape some...

Why? Because it's Goat Granny...She goes from sweet to completely bat-shit crazy in 2.3 seconds.

49 posted on 10/29/2009 3:55:15 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: LongElegantLegs

But she thinks I’m cute .....


50 posted on 10/29/2009 4:02:13 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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