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Gunman Wounds Two in Los Angeles Synagogue
arutz sheva ^ | 10/29/09

Posted on 10/29/2009 9:02:40 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

Los Angeles police say two Jewish men in their 30s were shot in the legs as they were about to enter a synagogue in the North Hollywood section of Los Angeles Thursday morning. A man described as an African-American with a handgun entered the Adat Yeshurun Valley Sephardic synagogue at about 6:20 a.m. Thursday and opened fire. The victims were taken to a hospital in stable condition.

Police are investigating the shooting as a hate crime. The Los Angeles Times says police arrested a man near the synagogue, but the sources say they don't believe he was the gunman.

The newspaper adds that police officials have alerted other synagogues around Los Angeles about the shooting, and police have stepped up patrols at Jewish religious institutions. Detectives are trying to determine if the gunman acted alone or as part of a larger group.

"Grave and shocking" Minister of Information and Diaspora Yuli Edelstein called the event “grave and shocking.”

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: gunman; israel; jews; losangeles; obama; shooting; synagogue
The police say they have someone in custody now, but aren't sure if he's the right guy. Security around shuls and schools has been beefed up around the city.
1 posted on 10/29/2009 9:02:40 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Revenge for the Detroit Muslim Inman/terrorist shooting?


2 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Cinnamon Girl

LA Time is reporting that the two victims are Jewish. Gee, I wonder if this is the militant Amish at work again.


3 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:09 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Is the correct term for this shooter African American or African Muslim?


4 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:17 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: All

The shul is North Hollywood. A little after 6am this morning, two men were shot in the legs as they were entering the synagogue.

5 posted on 10/29/2009 9:05:18 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

We live right near there. My daughter goes to the girls school not far away. Two squad cars were near the girls school.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 9:06:21 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Black Amish?


7 posted on 10/29/2009 9:06:50 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 280 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

TROP?


8 posted on 10/29/2009 9:07:07 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cicero

Police say they are treating this as a hate crime until they can establish otherwise. PC nonsense aside, that would mean that they are treating it as a possible muslim rage type situation and patroling other Jewish buildings.


9 posted on 10/29/2009 9:07:40 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Nope, victims white, perpetrator black. Can’t be a hate crime.


10 posted on 10/29/2009 9:07:55 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: DannyTN

My first thought. That’s their mindset.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 9:08:08 AM PDT by Moe Tzadik
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To: Cinnamon Girl

God be praised, no deaths from this.

Will this open the eyes of the Hollywood Jewish community?


12 posted on 10/29/2009 9:10:58 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Cinnamon Girl
When the following article was first posted to FR, many freepers laughed. This rabbi definitely had the right idea!

Gun-Toting God Squad: Rabbis Pack Heat

13 posted on 10/29/2009 9:11:22 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Thanks to our new anti-semitic Totus, it is now open season on jews in America.


14 posted on 10/29/2009 9:12:47 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Cinnamon Girl
synagogue
15 posted on 10/29/2009 9:12:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I hope the police haven’t acted stupidly.


16 posted on 10/29/2009 9:13:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A trade: Conservative Anglicans for Liberal Catholics and a heretic to be named later.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Gun-Toting God Squad: Rabbis Pack Heat

17 posted on 10/29/2009 9:13:52 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, they did just pick up a black man even though they only had the vague description that the shooter was “black and wearing a hoodie.” That sounds racist. I didn’t even hear that the guy they picked up was wearing a hoodie.


18 posted on 10/29/2009 9:22:23 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

But Zero does not consider this a hate crime because they are Jewish ... hmmm.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 9:30:18 AM PDT by fujimoh
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Well, on the one hand, I think it’s good if they treat all hate crimes equally. On the other hand, I find the idea of “hate crime” questionable, especially since it is usually biased by political correctness.

If the shooters were motivated by Muslim hatred of Jews, then it should be up to the media to bring that fact out. Also for the jury to take it into account, if they choose, as a contributing factor. It would suggest that the crime was premeditated, for one thing. But in fact the media will predictably cover it up, and a liberal judge will probably instruct the jury to ignore it. That’s the problem with “hate crime”—it usually becomes such a PC matter.

White on black is hate; black on white is a result of difficult childhood. And Muslim motives are unmentionable.


20 posted on 10/29/2009 9:30:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

We have to do something about these crazy Quakers


21 posted on 10/29/2009 9:34:02 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: penelopesire
Thanks to our new anti-semitic Totus, it is now open season on jews in America.

Human Rights Activist, Pamela Gellar, documented the sheer anti-Semitism on "the Messiah's" website: HERE

"There's no need to fear. Underzog is here!

22 posted on 10/29/2009 9:35:23 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: penelopesire

Yup, and those very same jews voted for the turd. When will they ever learn?


23 posted on 10/29/2009 9:36:07 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Certainly, graver and more shocking than if it were a love crime.


24 posted on 10/29/2009 9:36:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
A (gun)man described as an African-American with a handgun entered the Adat Yeshurun Valley Sephardic synagogue

That CAN'T be.

ONLY angry white men do such things, and we all "know" that most crimes are committed by this same group...

just ask Brinks/Broadview security alarm company. /sarc

25 posted on 10/29/2009 9:53:54 AM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Shot in the legs?

Good thing that most gangsta muslim-wannabees shoot as well as they swim. :)

26 posted on 10/29/2009 9:56:38 AM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
That sounds racist.

Oh gee whiz. I guess it's Miller Time at the White House again.

27 posted on 10/29/2009 10:02:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A trade: Conservative Anglicans for Liberal Catholics and a heretic to be named later.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

If this were to become a common problem, I would be attending synagogue. I’m not Jewish, but I wouldn’t stand by and watch them attacked like this without my support.

I may not like some people, but it’s not my place to go gunning for them on the city streets. And I find it troubling that the climate would be such that anyone would think this action to be acceptable.

And for the record, Jews are not a part of that ‘some people’, just in case anyone wondered.


28 posted on 10/29/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: Cicero
I guess they'll soon introduce a new category: African-American Muslim. But they don't want to pronounce the word “Muslim” in vain. The condescension of these people has no limits. Do they really think that the public is so stupid as not to connect the dots?
29 posted on 10/29/2009 10:36:32 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: agere_contra

Any rational person would think it would. But let’s remember how liberal, in general, the Jewish community is.

More likely than not, even if this ends up being a ROP issue, there will be no epiphany for this group. Sad.


30 posted on 10/29/2009 11:37:24 AM PDT by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Stepan12

Thanks for the links. She runs that website Atlas Shrugged and she is very good at what she does.


31 posted on 10/29/2009 12:05:55 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Cicero
In the Pittsburgh area a few years ago, the police prosecuted a case of a black shooter targeting white victims because they were white. Multiple shootings, two deaths I believe, and the case was prosecuted as a hate crime. Perp serving life in prison. The guy let a black potential victim go free and indicated with words that he was only targeting whites.
32 posted on 10/29/2009 12:39:47 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
You can also google Zebra murders for a period in the 1970's where a group of Nation of Islam people where killing whites in California
33 posted on 10/29/2009 12:47:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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34 posted on 10/29/2009 4:43:40 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Cicero
If you're saying that the "hate" element isn't an element of the crime as much as the sentencing, I agree. Other than very minor offenses like vandalism, graffiti or littering, and even those offenses usually have more serious charges.

As to jurys, there's the Seattle Jewish Federation shooting. Muslim guy who hates Jews and Israel plans an attack over a period of weeks, purchases weapons, trains with them, secrets them, then carries out his attack, killing one and wounding five. Fifteen counts of various degrees of murder and attempted murder, the jury agreed on only one. First degree murder, not guilty, hung on the rest. Who knows, maybe he'll be tried again one day.

Hate crime, not charged, but the prosecutor did bring it up publicly, which is why he was not charged with various terrorism offences. Lucky for him, those charges would have been federal.

35 posted on 10/29/2009 5:14:54 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

It looks like Obama’s racists are getting all wee-weed up with dear leader in power. Someone shot at Lou Dobbs house, too. His enemies would be Left wing hispanic racists who are angry over him expressing opposition to illegal immigration.

I hope this is not the beginning of something bigger. Prayers up for the victims of this hate crime and their community.


36 posted on 10/29/2009 6:23:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Who knows, maybe he'll be tried again one day.

Happened this week.

37 posted on 10/29/2009 6:36:45 PM PDT by Moe Tzadik
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