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Brain Dead GOP
29OCT09 | pgobrien

Posted on 10/29/2009 6:05:30 PM PDT by pgobrien

What an interesting experience it has been trying to leave comments at the GOP website. http://www.gop.com/ Almost like dealing with the GOP for real, shouting into the wind. Your website allows almost no feedback except to comment on 'Problems with this page?" THIS is the only way to leave Feedback? WTF? Too focused on your own political futures to listen to those who could support you? I joined your website only to express my dismay with your choice of candidate for the NY 23 District. This type of candidate is why I left the Republican party 30 years ago, and became a Conservative. Thanks for validating my perspective of Republicans as the 'Stupid Party'. What the hell are you people thinking? Still trying to be 'Moderate' in a political world of excess? The Democrats may come down crashing in flames, but I doubt your ability to do much better....given the lame candidates you propose and your weak opposition to the destruction of our country. I swear you guys could screw up a 2 car funeral.

PGOBrien


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
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Words fail me and events flail me.........
1 posted on 10/29/2009 6:05:31 PM PDT by pgobrien
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To: pgobrien

Ditto, label me conservative.


2 posted on 10/29/2009 6:07:28 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Thank You Mr. Thompson, I'm Series.)
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To: pgobrien

Don’t be afraid to speak up!!!!You are so right!!They are pompass asses!!!!


3 posted on 10/29/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT by GregB (According to The Constitution Sarah Palin is eligible to be President!)
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To: pgobrien

I think Rush had it wrong yesterday when he said something to the effect of ‘Independents are going Conservative.’ I think the bigger trend is that Conservatives are going independent.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 6:07:53 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: pgobrien

You left the party 30 years ago which means before Reagan and yet you post a vanity trying to tell the GOP what to do. Sorry but no sale. We needed people 30 years ago to get Reagan elected so anything you have to say now is just making yourself and a few other 3rd party people feel good.


5 posted on 10/29/2009 6:08:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: pgobrien
They're coming around to Hoffman only after they couldn't get their apparatchik candidate elected. No - they're not standing on principle.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

6 posted on 10/29/2009 6:09:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pgobrien

How many people on this forum believe what Glenn Beck said this evening that a third party could win the Presidency in 2012?


7 posted on 10/29/2009 6:09:36 PM PDT by kempster
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To: PhiKapMom

Amen!


8 posted on 10/29/2009 6:10:46 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: pgobrien

bookmark


9 posted on 10/29/2009 6:11:54 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: pgobrien

Conservative = Donations
GOP = Not so much.
A couple more of these and the Fat Lady will start warming her pipes.


10 posted on 10/29/2009 6:13:59 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: posterchild

If all Republicans would vote Conservative, instead of telling Conservatives to vote Republican, we wouldn’t be splitting hairs, or the vote...


11 posted on 10/29/2009 6:15:01 PM PDT by AnglePark
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To: pgobrien

I enjoy watching Sean Hannity on Fox. While he is a pretty good conservative on most issues it appears, he is also a diehard republican. Case in point: he had John “McShame” on his program the other night.
I thought we were trying to rid the Republican Party of neocons Sean!


12 posted on 10/29/2009 6:15:11 PM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: PhiKapMom
My apologies, if your happy with the GOP’s performance.
Wouldn't want to rain on your parade.
Sorry, but even Reagan wasn't Conservative enough for me.
I'm not telling the GOP what to do, I'm questioning their judgement.
Conservatives have ALWAYS been the 3rd party, and the underlying base of BOTH parties.
Trust me, I don't feel good about the situation now, I'm just frustrated that the GOP seems hell bent on compromise, when leadership would be more appropriate.
13 posted on 10/29/2009 6:18:10 PM PDT by pgobrien (Most economists almost unanimously agree...)
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To: kempster
How many people on this forum believe what Glenn Beck said this evening that a third party could win the Presidency in 2012?

Go Pat Go!!!

14 posted on 10/29/2009 6:21:32 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: kempster
This one?


15 posted on 10/29/2009 6:22:59 PM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: aSeattleConservative

I hate Sean’s radio and TV programs. He might be a good middle of the road republican, attracting housewives and the squishy middle, and I REALLY appreciate his support of the troops, being that my daughter is an Iraqi Vet, but come on, either you’re for the constitution or not. Newt jumped the shark. McCain jumped the shark, Hannity, don’t jump the shark. We’ll give you a DC cocktail party, bail on these rino’s and get with the conservative movement.


16 posted on 10/29/2009 6:23:00 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: kempster
It depends on what happens in 2010. If the Republican party fails to learn from NY23, we you may see a viable third party emerge built on many former Republicans. The time from the formation of the Republican party and the election of Lincoln was very short.

NY23 is a perfect example. The third party, does not have much chance until it reaches a certain critical mass. Once it does, however, all bets are off and one or both of the incumbent parties may implode. This critical mass may be achieved when a significant number of high ranking elected officials switch to, or support the third party candidate.

17 posted on 10/29/2009 6:33:58 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: pgobrien
Words fail me and events flail me.........

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18 posted on 10/29/2009 6:46:33 PM PDT by TChad
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To: CharacterCounts

Your answer makes sense to me. However, the state parties have so much control right now that in some states there could be major problems or roadblocks to get a viable third party on the ballot. Governors weild a lot of power and influence.

I would like to here a discussion on how we could get around these obstacles. I speak from some experience. When a group of Conservatives tried to take over the local Republican Party the Governor made it impossible for us to get control.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 6:50:15 PM PDT by kempster
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To: posterchild
From your mouth.

This conservative is enjoying his 11th year as a "non-aligned voter". Should have made the decision sooner to stave off some of the frustrations with the GOP that led me to finally take the bit by the teeth and sever the cord!

20 posted on 10/29/2009 7:05:43 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: kempster

Glenn Beck’s whining about both parties being bad is right....and wrong.

The GOP has gone off the rails with their “Democrat Lite” schtick.

There are plenty of good people who are still Republicans and they are fighting hard for control of the party. More people need to join them at the local and state level. That’s where it begins.

The two-party system still could work if we had a real choice. I agree with Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh that the fight should be within the GOP. That was Reagan’s way.

Third parties are just too risky in a Presidential election. Too much potential for vote splitting. Bush + Perot = Clinton (who never won a majority of votes)


21 posted on 10/29/2009 7:11:28 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: pgobrien
I only have one correction:

I swear you guys could screw up a 2 1 car funeral.

22 posted on 10/29/2009 7:31:29 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: GatorGirl

There is only one problem with your thinking, it gave is that POS Mccain as a candidate, and the day in day out crying and demanding we vote for his democrat lite butt.


23 posted on 10/29/2009 7:35:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: pgobrien
I've had the same experience. There is no place for feedback on their website. The GOP apparently wants nothing from us except donations.

Definition of words "Lip Service"

Verbal expression of agreement or allegiance, unsupported by real conviction or action; hypocritical respect

24 posted on 10/29/2009 7:39:43 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: pgobrien

I left the Republican Party in 1996, shortly after the election in November. I’d been a party activist since the early 1980’s, a huge campaigner for Reagan as President of the College Republicans in 1984, and served as Executive Committeeman for my precinct in SC from 1994-1996. I left for two reasons: (1)Because Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress had folded like a cheap lawn chair before Clinton in 1995, following their “Contract with America.” (2) Because the State Republican Party in South Carolina under Governor David Beasley lied and betrayed supporters on several important issues.

I saw back in 1996 that the Republicans were adrift, away from the Conservative principles of Reaganism, and back toward the statism seen in the Nixon years. GHW Bush nor “W” Bush — both of whom I held my nose and voted for — were movement Conservatives of the variety of Ronald Reagan. (BTW — Reagan WAS a Conservative. Maybe not a “perfect” conservative, but a far sight better than anything we have today!)

Glenn Beck is right — a 3rd party is a possibility in 2012 — IF: (1) The Republicans CANNOT get a clue and learn the lesson that Conservatives vote PRINCIPLES, not PARTIES (2) If Obama and his loyalists don’t find a way to prevent the 2012 election (maybe I’m nuts — but NOTHING would surprise me about this bunch!)

If Republicans keep trying to Bush, Dole and McCain Conservatives, they are destroying their own party. In that case, the emergence of a Conservative party to supplant them would be welcome, and seems at this point overdue. If the Whigs and Federalists drifted by the wayside and were replaced by the Republicans, whose to say their fate is any more sacred or protected?


25 posted on 10/29/2009 7:50:12 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Indy Pendance

Funny, I go with the Founders when it comes to foreign interventions.
Hannity gives Obama hell better than most; perhaps that’s why I like him.


26 posted on 10/29/2009 7:53:08 PM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: pgobrien
There is no longer a Grand OLD Party. They blew themselves out in the last 12 years (or more).

I agree with Rush, et. al...,no third party (okay, except for Hoffman) But no calling ourselves the "old" party....Whitel it must remain the REPUBLICAN Party, it must be sans the RINO'S yet with a conservative base...McClain, Lindsey Graham and the like need to move to WalMart...they can be door greeters for all I care.

Personally I picture Graham in the shoe department and McClain in the eyeglass section of the store, but, you mileage may vary.

Move over, all you old bastards that played pay for play in the republican party...we are taking our party back for AMERICA!!!!

27 posted on 10/29/2009 7:55:14 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth. ~George Washington)
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To: IrishPennant

Ohhhhh man, some serious 10pm typos (CST) in that last post...apologies.


28 posted on 10/29/2009 7:56:50 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth. ~George Washington)
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To: kempster
How many people on this forum believe what Glenn Beck said this evening that a third party could win the Presidency in 2012?

In my opinion it depends on what the democrats are able to ram through in the next year. I'm afraid the best we can hope for right now is that the republicans will be able to pick up enough seats in 2010 to stall future legislation, but won't have the majority (or the will) to start making the draconian changes necessary to save our economy. I can see the possibility of hyperinflation, 30% unemployment, the collapse of the dollar and civil unrest throughout the metropolitan areas in the next three years. If that happens and the stuffed shirts inside the beltway are still parsing words and arguing over parliamentary procedures then anything could happen in the 2012 elections.

29 posted on 10/29/2009 8:06:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: kempster

I am voting for the conservative candidate, regardless of party affiliation.


30 posted on 10/29/2009 8:11:18 PM PDT by mlmr (Angry with what leftists are doing to our country, our children and our culture...)
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To: GatorGirl
I agree with Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh that the fight should be within the GOP. That was Reagan’s way.

Reagan did it from within, but he is the exception rather than the rule. Let's not kid ourselves, many in the GOP hated Goldwater and Reagan. True, once he was elected, they gave lip service to conservatism. They were just biding their time. The Republican establishment has treated conservatives like sheep for years. They think we stink a little, but will follow the leadership as directed.

Even as the parties fortunes have declined, they continued to abandon conservatives. It was shameful to see the GOP kiss up to Spector when everyone with a brain knew he was a Democrat and would switch parties as soon as it was to his benefit to do so. This NY23 race should be a huge lesson for the GOP. If they don't get it - you will see more Hoffmans in 2010.

31 posted on 10/29/2009 8:31:26 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: pgobrien

Here’s what I do with the pre-paid envelopes the RNC sends. I mail them stuff, usually things I find on FR. Just today I mailed them the article on how Steele supports Scazzacommieo over the conservative candidate in New York. I added one of Secret Agent Man’s RINO Dollar bills. I use nearly every envelope they send. My favorite thing to send them is scanned and printed Monopoly money. I just scan a page of them and type in “I’ll send real money when you give me real conservatives to vote for.”


32 posted on 10/29/2009 8:42:32 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( PALIN-BACHMANN 2012 "Give Estrogen A Chance!")
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