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(Black Sabbath's) Tony Iommi undergoing stem-cell treatment on hand (adult stem cells)
The Times ^ | 10/30/2009 | Adam Sherwin

Posted on 10/30/2009 2:37:59 AM PDT by markomalley

It may not surprise parents that the head-banging, string-shredding world of heavy metal can seriously damage your health. But now Tony Iommi, the British guitarist who helped to invent the genre, has revealed that he is undergoing stem-cell treatment to save the hand that inspired a generation.

The number of rockers suffering from repetitive strain injuries is on the increase, and medical specialists have warned that their careers will come to an end unless they seek professional help.

As a founder member of Black Sabbath, the Birmingham rockers fronted by Ozzy Osbourne, Iommi, 61, hit on the distortion-heavy riffs that powered the group to fame. But more than 40 years of working a plectrum has taken their toll on Iommi, who has been forced off the road to undergo treatment.

“I’ve had this problem with my hand and I’ve had this stem-cell treatment on it,” Iommi told the BBC Radio 2 Radcliffe and Maconie Show. “The cartilage [was worn out between] the joints, and the joints [were] rubbing on the joints. It was bone to bone and it was getting a bit painful.”

Iommi has worn a hand guard to protect the injury but after taking painkillers and anti-inflammatories, he has turned to adult stem cells, which can restore defective muscles and help to regenerate cartilage growth. “This is the latest thing, so we’ll see if it works,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at entertainment.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; blacksabbath; moralabsolutes; music; prolife
Gee, he didn't use embryonic stem cells for his treatment? I'm shocked...shocked!
1 posted on 10/30/2009 2:38:00 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

**Gee, he didn’t use embryonic stem cells for his treatment? I’m shocked...shocked!8*

Shhhhhh ...it’s a FR Secret... the embryonic ones don’t work... shhhhh

LOL


2 posted on 10/30/2009 2:40:20 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: gwilhelm56

Sometime around 1971 or 1972 I saw the most mis-matched concert in history: Yes and Black Sabbath. Yes destroyed Black Sabbath, and we left halfway through the headliner’s set.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 2:54:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Worse yet I saw Van Halen open for them in Philly. After Eddie tore it up on guitar Tony should have went home.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 3:05:05 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: sonic109
Eddie Van Halen would be playing Do Wop if it wasn't for Tony Iommi. Metallica would be playing Sha Na Na and Franki Valli covers.
5 posted on 10/30/2009 3:37:40 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: BallyBill

Agreed. Most of those guys owe their careers to Tony and Geezer Butler.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 3:48:29 AM PDT by Heatseeker (Elizabeth Cheney for President)
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To: BallyBill
Eddie Van Halen would be playing Do Wop if it wasn't for Tony Iommi. Metallica would be playing Sha Na Na and Franki Valli covers.

Bingo. I saw Sabbath at the Fox in Atlanta in '84. Tony did a 15 minute solo onstage alone, and it was amazing, let alone the concert as a whole. (And I am a musician with hundreds of concerts under my belt.)

7 posted on 10/30/2009 3:49:37 AM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: Jackknife

most of those guys (with the exception of evh)
couldn’t hang in a country band


8 posted on 10/30/2009 4:33:37 AM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: markomalley

i thought the article was going to be something about him trying to grow the tips of his fingers back


9 posted on 10/30/2009 4:51:22 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: markomalley

You can get repetetive strain injury on a hand? Is it just guitarists? Maybe I better learn to use my other hand, just to be safe.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 5:14:25 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: paythefiddler

I agree - expecially with the bluegrass flatpicking talents.
(Tony Rice!)

I really do like ‘Buckethead’, though.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 7:05:12 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: markomalley

I am IRON MAN!!!


12 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:04 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Jackknife; BallyBill

Personally, I think this is punishment from above for destroying the sanctity and beauty of music, not to mention lots of eardrums.

:-)


13 posted on 10/30/2009 7:26:46 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: BallyBill

Tonni is and always was a pretty lame guitarist . There would be no Eddie if there were no Hendrix perhaps. We’re talking about people who revolutionized the instrument.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 12:27:28 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: LS
Yes destroyed Black Sabbath, and we left halfway through the headliner’s set.

Everybody knows Owner of a Lonely Heart completely shreds Ironman any day of the week. :P

15 posted on 10/30/2009 12:58:31 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: sonic109
Tonni is and always was a pretty lame guitarist . There would be no Eddie if there were no Hendrix perhaps. We’re talking about people who revolutionized the instrument.

Eddie is and always was a pretty lame song writer. He may be able to revolutionize an instrument, but Tony revolutionized music itself, inventing an entirely new genre.

16 posted on 10/30/2009 1:02:45 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: OA5599

Try, “Heart of the Sunrise” and “Perpetual Change” over “Paranoid.” It wasn’t close.


17 posted on 10/30/2009 1:49:45 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: paythefiddler
most of those guys (with the exception of evh) couldn’t hang in a country band

I've played all styles, and most of the guys I know that play country now came from the rock bands first. Take a look at most of the bands for today's country acts. They are all rock & rollers that found out they could make a lot of money playing country. I personally know a few of them that play in Nashvegas.

18 posted on 10/30/2009 3:25:10 PM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Personally, I think this is punishment from above for destroying the sanctity and beauty of music, not to mention lots of eardrums.

Yeah ...... RIGHT.

19 posted on 10/30/2009 3:26:41 PM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: markomalley

At first I thought the stem cells would help grow back the tips of the fingers he lost in a factory accident before the start of BS.


20 posted on 10/30/2009 3:31:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LS

Progressive rock just isn’t my thing. You’ll likely roll your eyes over what is my thing: DEATH METAL!!! (Well at least most people roll their eyes.) I can’t get enough of it.

But I am fairly diverse in my tastes. I also like thrash metal, black metal, speed metal, and the occasional playing of plain old heavy metal.


21 posted on 10/30/2009 4:28:22 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: OA5599

I like almost anything except rap and death metal-—but I do appreciate the incredible musicianship. Those guys’ speed, both guitars and drums, are beyond what I thought possible in the 1970s. And I liked BS, but that night, Yes just “out-musicianed” them 100%. We left halfway through BS’s set, it was so boring.


22 posted on 10/31/2009 5:16:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Blue Highway

Tony Iommi ping.


23 posted on 10/31/2009 8:38:45 PM PDT by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: sonic109

I would never consider Tony Iommi lame. Tony maybe didn’t revolutionise the instrument, but he revolutionized heavy metal. You can give him that.


24 posted on 11/01/2009 2:36:12 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Jackknife

I saw an old EVH video where he was on Letterman and was struggling with the Paul Schaeffer Band. EVH was revolutionary with the stuff he did with his music, but he doesn’t jam so well on other people’s stuff. He was interviewed and even admitted this weak point of his.


25 posted on 11/01/2009 2:39:14 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: LS
Did you even like Black Sabbath back then? Sounds like you were a YES fan that went to see YES. Did you continue to listen to Black Sabbath with Ronnie James Dio in 1980 and then Ian Gillan in 1983 etc etc.? I guess it depends if you're a fan of theirs or not.

To me I have much respect for them as they are still putting out heavy stuff. They are putting out better music in their 60s than most bands of their genre in their 20s.

Here they are from June 16th 2009 in Germany doing a great version of Falling off the Edge of the World. Sounds pretty damn good no matter what their age. Dio's vocals still sound strong.

Their new album "The Devil You Know" is pretty heavy too so I would consider this anything BUT boring. Here are my 5 favorites from it:

Breaking Into Heaven

Follow the Tears

Double the Pain

Atom and Evil

The Turn of the Screw

26 posted on 11/01/2009 3:23:35 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: markomalley

HMMM hope this works for him. I’ve had carpal tunnel surgery once already and all it did was releive the pain for a while. It would be nice to find something like this that could really fix the problem.


27 posted on 11/01/2009 4:31:59 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: OA5599

Oh I like some thrash metal too. I like all kinds of metal especially from the 80’s and 90’s.


28 posted on 11/01/2009 4:36:27 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Blue Highway

We went specifically to see Sabbath, and only knew Yes from “Roundabout,” and were hugely disappointed with a) their lack of energy after two songs, and b) their sameness. As I said, there were four or five of us-—all musicians, none of whom knew Yes-—and all of us looked at each other after about four Sabbath songs and said, “Let’s go.”


29 posted on 11/02/2009 4:15:24 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Can you answer the other questions I posed to you as far as liking Black Sabbath after Ozzy left. You didn’t bother to listen to the links I posted? I wanted your feedback about those songs specifically.


30 posted on 11/02/2009 5:29:35 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Blue Highway

Don’t recall your specific songs, and I’m not going back to find them, but I did like Dio, and really liked his drummy Vinny Appice. But since I’m not a “devil head,” I couldn’t in good conscience support Dio’s music. When he was in DP, it was different. Other than that, the issue wasn’t Black Sabbath AFTER Ozzie. It was one concert where I and everyone around me (four other people, none of them predisposed) thought Sabbath sucked and Yes was incredible.


31 posted on 11/03/2009 2:23:51 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
LS, the songs are in post 26. Not hard to find. I painstakingly took 45 minutes finding them all and putting them in neat HTML click-able hyperlinks just to make it convenient for you.

Dio was never in Deep Purple, Ian Gillan was. Dio was in Rainbow and ELF before that. Sounds like you're a little confused.

Also Black Sabbath were known for having some sloppy shows back in the 70's due to drugs, alcohol and Tony Iommi's old Gibson SG going horribly out of tune. I'd like you to click the link in post 26 called Falling off the Edge of the World and tell me that they suck or are boring. Please. I have some tasty crow for you to eat. I'm waiting.

32 posted on 11/03/2009 5:53:30 AM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Blue Highway
Oops. Sorry. Rainbow. I particularly liked Rainbow because Cozy Powell was them for a while. But I did like Dio's band when Appice was the drummer. Actually, saw him do a drum clinic about that time. I liked "Man on Silver Mountain" (Rainbow?), and "Last in Line."

But I never said Sabbath as a band was boring. I said the show we saw was boring and that Yes blew them off the stage. Don't get all defensive. Personally, I didn't like Iommi as a guitarist, and thought their drummer was extremely straightforward and uninventive. The concept about "devil music," "underworld," etc. was what was novel at first and that's what made their first album so appealing. But it got old very quickly. So, no, I didn't bother to follow them after the first album or two (if there was a second---can't remember).

As for "Falling off the Edge of the World," doesn't do anything for me. I like the guy's drum set, but the music doesn't grab me at all. It's, well, . . . boring.

33 posted on 11/03/2009 8:13:21 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Blue Highway
I listened to them, and found them uninventive. This might have been exciting in 1972, but today, I expect a little more. Just doesn't grab me at all.

What I would recommend is the "in concert" video of Jeff Beck at . . . (dang, I forgot---some club). With the exception of two guest vocalists and two songs where Eric Clapton sits in, it's all instrumental but astounding.

34 posted on 11/03/2009 8:15:22 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I can just take this to different tastes then. Sure Jeff Beck is a great player but to be honest I can’t say I’d want to listen to more than 1 or 2 songs at a time. That to me is boring. It’s not quite shredding like Joe Satriani, but yet it isn’t heavy either. It’s like listening to Hendrix which I can respect but it’s not my cup of tea. Taking this into consideration I can honestly say I wouldn’t consider you a Black Sabbath fan then or now.


35 posted on 11/03/2009 5:04:13 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: LS

Very odd you don’t find Iommi interesting or inventive. He was probably the biggest influence on me before I started playing guitar. You said you are a musician, I’d like to hear your influences.


36 posted on 11/03/2009 5:06:51 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Blue Highway
At the time, 1964, Ringo was a great drummer: variety of beats, a little slow, but steady. Never overplayed.

By the late 1960s, my favorites were Carmine Appice (Vanilla Fudge, Cactus---where he was absolutely at his best), Ginger Baker with Cream (didn't care for his "Air Force" work), and Cozy Powell with Jeff Beck. Despised Keith Moon and Neal Peart---they just overplayed. Mitch Mitchell was ok, but too jazzy, but I liked the guy with Deep Purple who played in that same genre.

Jeff Beck's drummer today is stunning. Carmine has completely lost it---you can barely tell it's him any more. There is some session guy I don't know who plays on a lot of Christian albums particularly "Point of Grace" and is a master of understatement, with power---kind of a new Ringo.

37 posted on 11/03/2009 7:36:31 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Blue Highway

And for the umpteenth time, I never said I was a Black Sabbath fan, ever. I said, we went to their concert. I had a couple of their albums. I thought they had a neat gimmick-—but that was all. But I think in any poll of the top 10 most influential guitarists, Beck’s name would come up in the top 2-3 in almost every poll, and I’d wager Iommi wouldn’t crack a single one. And, for the record, Clapton was once asked who was better, him or Hendrix, and he said, “he plays a lick, then I play a lick, but Jeff Beck beats us both.”


38 posted on 11/03/2009 7:39:49 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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