Posted on 10/30/2009 5:17:19 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
If you were a cable TV host whose audience size is obliterated by O'Reilly's, buried by Beck's, hammered by Hannity's and slam-dunked by Susteren's, would you really go around mocking someone else's ratings?
Appparently yes, if you're Ed Schultz. The host of the miniscule MSNBC program went out of his way this evening to belittle the ratings of Dennis Miller's radio show . . .
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Does this really matter?
Answer: NO!
Dennis Miller is light years ahead of Ed Schultz in all categories.
“Dennis Miller, a liberal Republican”
I prefer to see Dennis as a free spirit, and a valuable convert to the cause.
Denis Miller is a DUFUS.
Ed Schultz has about 16% of Dennis Miller’s vocabulary.
If Ed Schultz is talking and nobody hears him, did he still make an ass of himself?
Ed Schultz is a liberal Democrat who is attacking Dennis Miller a liberal Republican.
Does this really matter?
Answer: NO!
Agree!
And add, O’REilly is a RHINO too and why he likes Dennis Miller.
Ed’s a dog killer.
Petty, pointless, “news”.
I think Dennis Miller is a Libertarian Republican, not a Liberal Republican. Dennis is liberal on social issues but conservative on economic ones, thus Libertarian
Miller is a liberal. I have yet to hear anything from him that’s conservative.
I listen to Miller`s radio program as much as I can.
It`s a very entertaining mix of politics, comedy, hollywood biz etc.
And Miller's support for Bush and the WOT is no different then Joe Lieberman's support for Bush and the WOT. I wouldn't vote for either one!
“Miller is a free spirit who supports big government, higher taxes”
I don’t catch Dennis’ show much anymore, but don’t recall him taking such positions.
Schultz is pulling the very predictable and childish “Everybody look at me!” routine in the desperate hopes that he might get a few more people to bump up his ratings another tenth of a percent.
It ain’t workin’ Ed.
Thanks, I was trying to think up a Dennis defense...
but, you did it for me.
Careful, next time it might be James Woods!
Miller is no fiscal conservative nor does he support limited government. Miller subbed for Hannity several years back on his radio show. He started the show out by defining his politics -— pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-big government and supports higher taxes. Miller might be a ‘liberaltarian’, but in my book he fits liberal much better.
See #21.
Calling Miller a conservative, doesn’t make him a conservative. Anymore then calling Romney a conservative makes him a conservative.
I can’t refute you but am surprised to hear that he would support big gov and higher taxes. I’ll keep my ears open in the future.
I've only seen his act once for a few minutes, while I was waiting at the veterinarian's office. It struck me as an attempt to manufacture a leftist Limbaugh by leftists who don't understand Rush, or why he appeals to so many, or the audience that he appeals to, or much of anything else, for that matter.
That strikes me as a recipe for epic backfire fail. I've just put more popcorn on the grocery list, I'm sure I'll eventually need it.
Even his fellow leftists on the radio hate his guts, Lynne Samuels described him as an "asshole", and "very full of himself".
Of course, the muzzie in chief loves him.
“And Miller’s support for Bush and the WOT is no different then Joe Lieberman’s support for Bush and the WOT. I wouldn’t vote for either one!”
First of all, Miller’s not a politician, os it really doesn’t matter whether you’d vote for him. Secondly, the way we appreciate folks like Lieberman and Miller is different from the way we feel towards Newt or Romney, for instance.
Newt’s a Benedict Arnold, and that stings. Miller, on the other hand, betrayed THEM, not us. He used to be liberal, now not so much. Newt still might be more conservative, still, I’d rather listen to Dennis these days.
Big Ed-a big schwantz
Actually, I think O’Reilly thinks that some of DM’s coolness/hipness/intelligence rubs off on him by having him on The Factor.
Au contraire, Mr. O’ Reilly...all it does is expose your celebrity fascination...
Miller isn’t a politician, but he is a political pundit. My point was, his politics are no different than Lieberman’s. I don’t think Miller betrayed anyone. He remains a liberal by his own words. From what I’ve seen of Miller on the Factor, he’s willing to give Zero the benefit of the doubt far to often. Besides, Miller ain’t funny.
Last June I heard Miller say how happy he was that his good friend Al Franken had been “awarded” the Senate Seat from Minnesota over Norm Coleman. He dismissed Franken’s dirty underhanded fraudulent RAT recount antics as “just good old fashioned politics”.
That is the last time I ever listened (or ever will listen)
to Miller.
Great point, Aman516. Thanks!
Seems I remember something about that too.
Walgreens sells kits to remove ear wax.
The only way he can get noticed is to attack someone else, because he has absolutely nothing of value to say on his own.
Just like Letterman!!
oops.... sorry Zman516.
Voting for and listening to because you enjoy hearding witty takes on current issues are two different things.
I would jump in here with the obligatory insult, but I honestly don’t have a clue about who Ed Schultz is. The joys of not watching television are many.
I like the Dennis Miller Radio show.
He tells great ‘inside Hollywood’ stories, and is really funny.
So is Saul his “Go to Jew”.
He has an interesting perspective and I can swear you see him thinking things out and coming up with zingers and quips and connections right there on the show.
Unscripted, though it is hard, if you come into the middle, to get “in” on the joke. So catch it from the beginning if you can.
Nolo problemo, RMan. ;-)
In my conservative book, a liberal is a liberal.
Doesn’t matter if his name is Dennis Miller or Joe Lieberman.
Btw, Miller isn’t witty or funny either.
I listened to about 10 seconds of Schultz once before I realized I was on the wrong station and turned it.
Obnoxious is an understatement.
I agree with you, allmendream - Dennis is a peach.
He was/is on our side on war issues. It is a real pleasure listening to him. No rants and he thinks through each issue.
He may not be fully right, but he treats callers with a courtesy unsurpassed (except by Dennis Praeger). He doesn’t let ego surpass his air of kindness. I’d be proud to have him as a friend.
Thanks for the illumination-—I did not know that about DM.
“My point was, his politics are no different than Lieberman’s”
And I like Lieberman. He’s Our Democrat. No better than McCain in absolute terms, but liberal Republicans hurt us more than coservative Democrats. Just like how libs love McCain and hate Lieberman (even if he’s not technically a Democrat anymore).
Lieberman is YOUR Democrat, he's not mine! I don't like Lieberman, he's part of the problem. Btw, FR is a conservative forum, not a forum to promote liberals.
You have a lot to learn, my "young" FRiend and supporting liberals isn't clever.
“You have a lot to learn, my ‘young’ FRiend and supporting liberals isn’t clever.”
What “supporting”? Am I handing out flyers? No, I just like them. Since when is everything about positioning myself politically, as if my saying I enjoy Miller is akin to Newt endorsing Scozzafava. It’s not. We can like people we don’t 100% agree with. It’s allowed.
As far as their being liberal, yes, they are, relative to you. But not relative to actual liberals. Miller is what we’d call a 9/11 Conservative, and I happen to think that was an important and significant cultural shift. One that we should wish to endure.
Oh, and by the way, if Joe Lieberman were running for reelection against an honest conservative, I’d have absolutely no hesitation to vote him out. Likewise, if Miller were running against, I don’t know, Glenn Beck for King of Pundits, I’d likewise have zero hesitation.
Free Republic exists because America has a huge government bureaucracy and many traditionalists and mainstream conservatives take exception to that fact. We don't agree with having a huge government and that leads to politics being at the center of most serious debate around this forum. FR exists to advance conservative politics, not liberal politics. If this was a thread about funny comedians, that would be a different subject matter. Dennis Miller has become a political pundit and like it or not, he's open to criticism. The term "911 conservative" is very misleading. Miller and Lieberman supported Bush and the WOT, that doesn't make them conservatives.
“The term ‘911 conservative’ is very misleading. Miller and Lieberman supported Bush and the WOT, that doesn’t make them conservatives.”
I don’t think it’s misleading at all. Everyone knows that it means they were behind the War on Terror. Supporting any particular war doesn’t necessarily make one conservative. And indeed, there is an inherent dichotomy inside the conservative mind, and a deep split between different conservative factions, over the question of foreign policy. But all things being equal, national defense is important to us.
That’s not all it means to be a 9/11 conservative, either, in that it also refers to people who have started to collect conservative values outside of foreign policy because of the shock of war. Miller is among those. I’ve definitely noticed a change in his overall attitude.
“America has a huge government bureaucracy and many traditionalists and mainstream conservatives take exception to that fact. We don’t agree with having a huge government and that leads to politics being at the center of most serious debate around this forum.”
I submit that even among public figures who spend all their time battling Leviathan, the result is nill. Michelle Bachman treads water, no one listens to Ron Paul, and Glenn Beck’s commentary, especially the third party stuff, is, for lack of a better term, masturbatory. I’ve never been much of a puritan. I don’t fear contamination from adulturated substances. I can, occasionally, listen to and enjoy people that don’t hate the state as fiercely as I.
Not to say you can’t ignore Miller, or maintain that one drop of liberal blood is a liberal, and therefore “part of the problem”. But do I really have to explain to you what benefit conservatives can draw from former liberals? Forget their old cabal; they’ll never listen. But amongst independents, people like Miller, with their hipster charm and watered down right-winginess, can reach people who’d tune Beck out. Also, do I really need to explain how Lieberman and other Blue Dogs are, in many ways, more effective for us than RINOs?
You can’t stay forever locked up with people who already agree with you if you ever hope to change anyone else’s mind. If conservatives and libertarians hadn’t found a way to get along, through the common enemy of socialism, where would we be? Why can’t we find a little common ground with Miller, who shares an enemy with us (in addition to radical Islam): radical liberals.
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