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Ohio residents say cops advised them to move away
AP ^ | 10/30/2009 | AP

Posted on 10/30/2009 6:53:28 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Residents of one Ohio city are complaining that police officers are telling them if they're fed up with crime in their neighborhoods they should move out. At least two Columbus city council members have heard the complaint. An aide to Councilwoman Charleta Tavares said she has received more than 20 calls. Councilman Andrew Ginther said if police are making the comments, they're neither acceptable nor appropriate, though he said he believes most officers want to be helpful. A police spokesman said the department addresses the complaints when it's given the name of an officer. A police union official said he understands if officers are frustrated with crime. Fraternal Order of Police President Jim Gilbert said: "It's like the OK Corral out there."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: columbus; ohio

1 posted on 10/30/2009 6:53:28 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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I don’t really blame the cops here, after all they are probably just being truthful and their hands are being tied by politicians from going after the real problems.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 6:54:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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More and more like Britain everyday.

Victims become the bad guys. Thugs
are treated like spoiled kids.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 6:56:07 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS, the party of taxes and death. Is this what you want?)
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When a neighborhood tips, sometimes the only solution is to move out. That’s the unfortunate truth.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 6:56:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Yeah, they get accused of things they didn’t do, and persecuted for doing their jobs.


5 posted on 10/30/2009 6:57:08 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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It’s not the fault of the cops but as we slouch further and further into a terminal leftist death spiral they will increasingly be either useless to us or outright organs of the oppressive state.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 6:57:40 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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The cynic in me assumes that the police labor agreement being negotiated... and it isn’t going well as far as the rank & file are concerned. It’s one thing for a beat officer to make an unguarded comment. But when the FOP rep comes out and essentially re-inforces that comment?


7 posted on 10/30/2009 6:58:46 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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The right to bear arms, protect your families and your communities. These lifetime arrogant pompous politicians have taken our right to protect ourselves under the guies of gun control because they can't control illegal guns they take ours away and have a news conference stating how they have removed guns from our streets. They haven't done a god damned thing aside from preventing us from protecting ourselves. HAPPINESS IS A WARM GUN!
8 posted on 10/30/2009 7:00:50 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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If the cops tell you to move out, I’d listen. Cops are only as good as the community that backs them up, and in most cities, cops who go after real criminals are browbeaten by criminal supporting residents and “civilian review boards.” It is just much easier for them go and give out parking tickets instead.


9 posted on 10/30/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I live in Columbus. The cops are right.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 7:02:12 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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What do you expect from Buckeyes? Many of them are criminal scumbags or to use the quote from dimwit OSU QB Terrelle Pryor, they are all MURDERERS! :P

GO BLUE!


11 posted on 10/30/2009 7:04:58 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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Cops hands are tied and there’s only so much they could do if they weren’t.


12 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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I moved away from Columbus years ago. I feel safer here in Oakland County, Michigan.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 7:10:34 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Sarah Palin irritates all the right people." -Dennis Miller)
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Could be worse, You could be right down the highway from Detroit. In my county, shootings have spiked and almost invariably the perp’s home adress is Detroit, some 70 miles away.

Seems there’s nobody left to victimize and nothing left to take in Detroit. It truly has gone Mad Max.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 7:12:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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All most 30% higher than the national average for crime.
15 posted on 10/30/2009 7:20:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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It truly has gone Mad Max.

From the state capitol here within a two mile radius, that's what's happening . The Arena District is safe on CBJ game nights.

16 posted on 10/30/2009 7:22:44 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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Fraternal Order of Police President Jim Gilbert said: "It's like the OK Corral out there."

Everyone at the OK Corral was white but this is indoubtedly racist anyway.

17 posted on 10/30/2009 7:29:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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If one doesn’t like where one lives, he/she should move. Cops are report takers in all reality. They have no obligation or responsibilty to prevent crimes.


18 posted on 10/30/2009 7:32:18 PM PDT by goseminoles
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My old hometown of Cleveland is right behind you. It’s terrible.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 7:34:48 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--(food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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Remember that while policemen would like to be “proactive”, the truth is that most of the time, they are reactive. This means they show up to clean up the mess and take notes, which does the public no good at the time.

This means that when a neighborhood is having problems, their first order of business is “legal vigilantism”, taking care of their own problems. This is a process of many steps, to “take back” a neighborhood by solving its problems.

To start with, a neighborhood needs to become aware of its good citizens, and they as a group need to see that there is a problem, and agree that it needs to be addressed.

To begin with, photographs and video of problems, and who is causing these problems, are invaluable, and easy to get. Identifying the problem opens doors to solutions. Usually, if given even a modicum of support, the police are much more effective.

And when they know what and who are the problems, they can often be proactive, and take care of the problems, which is their job.

But if they police are not helpful, then oddly enough, the next step is to let the people behind the problems know that they are a problem, that the neighborhood is aware of them as a problem, and that the neighborhood wants them to stop.

This is also often quite effective, because those who make trouble do not want attention paid to them, especially by a group of people who might make trouble right back at them. So it is not uncommon for such people to leave after as little as seeing a flier or two on a telephone pole.

If they are unwilling to leave, then the neighborhood should contact organizations that pride themselves on making trouble for troublemakers. For example, if there is a crack house, and the local police won’t deal with it, then other law enforcement agencies might, and even non-law enforcement agencies who would apply heat to such places.

If this fails as well, then it is time to shine the limelight on the troublemakers in other directions. If the police won’t come for one reason, perhaps they will come because of a tip, for another reason. Maybe the fire department will come. Maybe the local TV news station. Or the gas company with a complaint of a leak. etc.

By now, life has become downright complicated for the troublemakers. If they are very obstinate, likely they will try and fight back, with vandalism and violence. So the neighborhood has to be ready for this, so they can’t be intimidated one at a time.

Even two or three armed troublemakers are going to be hesitant in taking on half a dozen heavily armed adults, especially when they came to intimidate, not be intimidated themselves. Bravado fails when you have a shotgun in your face.

And this is a time for ultimatums. Just telling them to go away is not enough. It is time for them to leave for good. And by this point, the vigilantes mean it. The troublemakers need to be gone by sundown, or the block can be illuminated with their house.

Very few troublemakers would be willing to argue the point.


20 posted on 10/30/2009 7:55:38 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Rank and file cops hate their big city Marxist bosses. When the sh*t hits the fan and the crooked pols call for help, they’ll understand the old saw that when seconds count, the cops are minutes away. Die you Marxist b*stards...


21 posted on 10/30/2009 8:18:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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If crime is bad enough that you are complaining to the police, and
if the police are telling you it’s time to move,
only a real dipstick would ignore that advice and instead complain to the city council. LOL


22 posted on 10/30/2009 8:22:47 PM PDT by ladyjane
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