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In NY-23 There Are Four Who Deserve Tremendous Credit
Red State ^ | Oct 31, 2009 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 10/31/2009 11:09:41 AM PDT by BAW

Lots of people want credit for Dede Scozzafava dropping out today.

I feel like I have had a view from the inside. Lots of people are trying to give me credit for rallying the base since last July for Hoffman, but from my vantage point, there are four that are being overshadowed by Pataki, Pawlenty, and Palin, but who genuinely and truly deserve a hell of a lot more credit than most.

Please though, remember these four:

1. Susan B. Anthony List. First in and last out, they have been under the radar for months. Before the tea party activists. Before the cavalcade of politicians from Palin to Pawlenty to Perry, there was Susan B. Anthony.

2. Fred Thompson. He made this race his personal crusade. He has helped bring in talent and endorsements, putting his own reputation on the line.

3. Club For Growth. A group that many see as a front for the GOP has given the GOP a solid black eye and elevates fiscal conservatism to the forefront of the fight to save America.

4. Jon Henke. Jon came in to little fanfare or notice and helped rally conservative activists online for Hoffman. Many people did not realize until recently that Jon was even helping Hoffman. But he did. He’s done great work. We don’t always see eye to eye on issues, but make no mistake — a lot of people will be quicker to recognize the above three than Jon, but Jon has played a critical and vital role.

One honorable mention: Dave Keene at ACU. Dave raced into this race almost immediately. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2009endorsements; acu; clubforgrowth; fredthompson; hoffman; keene; ny2009; ny23; nygop; prolifevote; scozzafava; susanbanthonylist; topten
Pats on the back starting already. Good behind the scenes look into the buildup of support for Doug.
1 posted on 10/31/2009 11:09:44 AM PDT by BAW
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To: BAW

Let’s not count our chickens.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 11:10:54 AM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: BAW

Kudos to all involved. Our tent IS big, but we have a common glue that holds us all together; Love of country BECAUSE of the constitution. Not self guided interest.

Keep this momentum going. There are more fights to win! Thanks to all for the shot heard round the teaparties!!!!!


3 posted on 10/31/2009 11:12:07 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: Onerom99

Your right. But it does look like Ol Mo has taken a turn .


4 posted on 10/31/2009 11:13:41 AM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: BAW

Shouldn’t DailyKOS get huge credit for endorsing the Republican? That has to get a lot of credit for the massive shift in the polls. Kiss of death!


5 posted on 10/31/2009 11:15:30 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: BAW

Where are Mitt and Nannybee regarding NY-23?


6 posted on 10/31/2009 11:16:04 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Onerom99
Well, the momentum is building for a true Conservative voice in today’s politics and I think it’s on a real roll, something people can get behind and support. It’s about time the RINO’s start to pay attention to the voices of the people. Hurrah, for the effort, no matter the outcome.
7 posted on 10/31/2009 11:18:57 AM PDT by mia
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To: HerrBlucher
Where are Mitt and Nannybee regarding NY-23?

Conspicuously absence which is another serious large black mark on their records. Leaders lead, not hide in the weeds

8 posted on 10/31/2009 11:21:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: BAW

Has anyone gotten Newt’s reaction yet? :-))


9 posted on 10/31/2009 11:22:14 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: HerrBlucher

Romney and Huck both refused to endorse either side. They both voted “present.”

I’m sure you’re shocked—I know I was. :)


10 posted on 10/31/2009 11:23:41 AM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: BAW
Don't forget Gary Bauer and Glen Beck. I heard many pro-life, pro traditional marriage commericials endorsing Hoffman on the radio around here sponsored by Gary Bauer. He is the only one who mentioned the fact that Dede is pro-abortion on a political ad that I have heard in the area.
11 posted on 10/31/2009 11:24:19 AM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: mc5cents

I’m sure Newt’s (justifiably) embarrassed.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 11:26:28 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric

Here is the latest from NEWT:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2375410/posts


13 posted on 10/31/2009 11:29:22 AM PDT by curth
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To: HerrBlucher
They are sitting on the fence waiting to see which way the wind is blowing. I suspect they will make a statement now that it is safe. Both of these guys want to make decisions for us in the White House. This is a lesson in guts and fortitude and both failed. Newt cut his own throat and lost all his blood (and integrity).
14 posted on 10/31/2009 11:30:16 AM PDT by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: MNJohnnie; Impy; Clintonfatigued; pissant; rabscuttle385
Fred Thompson certainly deserves praise and credit for supporting the conservative EARLY on in the NY-23 race, and Huck was wrong to stay neutral, but let's always remember politicians overall records.

Whether most freepers want to accept it or not, Huck's gone to bat for conservatives over RINOs in high profile races alot more than Fred. In fact, this is the first major campaign where I've seen Fred throw his support to the conservative maverick INSTEAD of the so-called "electable" RINO establishment candidate. In past campaigns he's usually backed the RINO (Chafee over Laffey, McCain over Bush & Keyes, Simmons over Caligiuri & Schiff, etc.)

If Fred's seen the light and is going to back conservatives from now on, I welcome his support. So let's find out.

The next major hurdle is stopping Charlie Crist is Florida. Huckabee has vocally endorsed Rubio and helped fund his campaign. So.... what's Fred got to say about that one?

15 posted on 10/31/2009 11:32:40 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: mc5cents


16 posted on 10/31/2009 11:34:42 AM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
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To: All

A lot of credit has to go to Sarah. Until she endorsed Hoffman, 95% of the country didn’t know about this race - including me.

Doug Hoffman will owe her a big gift basket come Tuesday.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 11:37:13 AM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (President Bush will go down as one of our greatest presidents (next to Ronald Reagan))
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To: curth
That's Newt.

He's way too mercurial and flippant.

Not the first time he's done something like this and it won't be the last.

But, he's gonna pay a big price this one.

18 posted on 10/31/2009 11:37:13 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: BillyBoy
No matter how the Huckabee supporters try to spin, the fact remains Huckbee failed to lead. So far his record indicates he is a CINO. Absent when the chips are down and leadership needs to be shown. Sorry but anyone who advocates a nation wide public smoking ban is not a Conservative at heart.
19 posted on 10/31/2009 11:38:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Now we need to get Crist out of the Race!ccYes, I know that thereis a primary...


20 posted on 10/31/2009 11:44:14 AM PDT by beaware
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To: BillyBoy

Putting a Republican in office in New York would be like dropping the bubble boy naked in the HIV ward.


21 posted on 10/31/2009 11:45:04 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: beaware
Well maybe I am missing it but I have yet to see any leadership on Health Care, on the Economy on anything from anyone supposedly running in 2012 but Sarah Palin.
22 posted on 10/31/2009 11:50:38 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: BAW

Has Scozzafava endorsed Hoffman’s opponent yet?


23 posted on 10/31/2009 11:52:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: BAW
Interesting — Zero nominates a RINO (71 rating by the ACU) for Secretary of the Army hoping to open up a seat for a liberal, pro-abortion, pro-tax, pro-healthcare RINO. It looks like the replacement will be 100% Conservative — once again proving the Law of Unintended Results. Thank you, Sarah!!!
24 posted on 10/31/2009 12:01:56 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: BAW

A bit of history revision here, Erick. Hoffmann was going nowhere until Palin endorsed him. That created the snowball effect that deep-sixed Dede’s chances. Fact.


25 posted on 10/31/2009 12:10:35 PM PDT by WillT
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To: BAW

I would agree on the good work done by Susan B. Anthony List, Fred Thompson, and Club For Growth.

I don’t really know Jon Henke, but maybe so.

I think credit also is due to Sarah Palin. When she stepped in, it gave it crushing momentum that the RINOs eventually had to bow to. So, yes, the other guys deserve credit, but let’s not use that to diss Sarah, eh?


26 posted on 10/31/2009 12:32:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BAW

I’d add Mark Levin. He was great interviewing him.


27 posted on 10/31/2009 12:32:44 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: BAW

I thought Fred Thompson and Club for Growth were the first ones to note what was happening. Thanks for posting.

Would credit Pataki for being the run who sunk her completely! His endorsement being so strong put the final nail in her campaign IMHO!


28 posted on 10/31/2009 12:40:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: mia

Bingo! They need to get on board or get out of the way!


29 posted on 10/31/2009 12:41:48 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: GinaLolaB

I think Beck was the first big time talk show endorsement, Rush followed and then Hannity a few days later. Hannity did have Newt on and his show, and for the most part let Newt off the hook.
Kudos to Beck.


30 posted on 10/31/2009 12:45:45 PM PDT by LeavingNewYork (We are at war with Oceania; we have always been at war with Oceania.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Failed to lead in this particular, race, yes. But you didn't address the point of my post. Fred Thompson lead conservatives in this sole circumstance but failed to back conservatives in a dozen other major races. Huck failed to back the conservative in this particular race but backed the conservative over the RINO in a dozen other races.

So OVERALL, who's gone to bat for conservatives more?

Can you cite any other examples of Fred lending his support early on to a conservative challenger going up against a RINO establishment candidate? I can cite many examples of Huckabee putting his neck on the line to help a conservative beat an anointed RINO candidate.

31 posted on 10/31/2009 12:49:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BAW

Did they show ScarFace face planting into the big pile of blow yet?


32 posted on 10/31/2009 12:55:25 PM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
Sarah made the NOTICEABLE difference.
33 posted on 10/31/2009 12:59:40 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: BAW
Pats on the back starting already

Count the votes first.

34 posted on 10/31/2009 1:02:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We Are Traveling in the Footsteps of Those Who've Come Before)
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To: BAW; Jim Robinson

#5. FREE REPUBLIC, (Jim Robinson and his ‘Fightin’ FReepers’!)


35 posted on 10/31/2009 2:25:21 PM PDT by panaxanax (At what point will the American people finally scream out "NO MORE!!"?)
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To: BAW

Counting chickens already?


Sorry -- but I remember this headline:


36 posted on 10/31/2009 3:43:16 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: BAW

Losers:

1. Romney: he made a fork-in-the-road non-decision decision. Conservatives should be clear as to whether he stands with the 72% of Republicans who are conservative.

2. Huckabee - Sure, he came to Upstate New York for a big Conservative Party fundraiser this past week, but he shut out Doug Hoffman from key recognition at the event. Take a look at the fundraiser program - not a single mention of Doug Hoffman, the biggest news to hit the NY Conservative Party ever. Why? Ask Huckabee.

3. Pawlenty. Sure, he jumped on the bandwagon, but he is either clueless or calculating and manipulative, because on the day that Palin announced her principled support, Pawlenty could only utter: “You know I haven’t been following that, I haven’t studied the race at all,” he said. “It’s not that I would or wouldn’t, I just don’t know anything about it. I haven’t taken the time to study their positions, their records, so I haven’t taken a position on it.” He sems to be as plugged into the conservative movement as Arnold. Palwenty then dithered for another 4 days, ala Obama and Afghanistan, on a simple matter. Why did it take him that long to get up to speed? Finger-in-the-air leadership is not Presidential leadership.

On the other hand, like Reagan, Palin makes decisions that are derived from core, conservative principles.

Here’s what happened on the day after her endorsement of Doug Hoffman:

1. There was a surge of fundraising for Hoffman, with some reports indicating as much as $116,000 in a single day.

2. The Washington Post declared her endorsement a “blunder”: “What is she thinking? If Hoffman — somehow — wins with her help, she will have alienated a GOP establishment desperate to reconstruct past majority coalitions that included moderates, both because she will have hurt their cause and because they will fear her influence among true believers.”

RedState/Erick and the others mentioned in this blog post were critical to this incredible outcome. But, Palin’s involvement took an under-the-radar movement and cast a huge light on it.

Palin will have a massive army should she choose to run for President in 2012. Her presence on the social networking sites Facebook and Twitter will be an indication of the enormous launching pad she will possess. She will raise campaign funds in amounts no other Republican will be able to match. She will draw crowds that no other Republican candidate will be able to match.

It’s understandable that Obama and his mass media cohorts fear her. But, those Republicans who also trash her will suffer the same fate as those who trashed the Gipper - irrelevancy.


37 posted on 10/31/2009 6:15:06 PM PDT by passive1 (Wash ComPost: "Sarah Palin's latest blunder" - endorsing Hoffman)
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To: BAW

Sorry guys but I have to credit Hoffman for running a solid campaign and earning this support. One also has to credit the Obama administration and the natural resistence of voters to extremism.


38 posted on 10/31/2009 6:28:49 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find! - I am Joe Wilson.)
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To: jimfree

Specifically, what aspect of the campaign plan are you referring to that led to this result?


39 posted on 10/31/2009 6:34:36 PM PDT by passive1 (Wash ComPost: "Sarah Palin's latest blunder" - endorsing Hoffman)
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