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Kudlow, Santelli: Dollar Devaluation Creating 'Fašade' Bush/Obama Economic Policies Are Working
Newsbusters ^ | October 31, 2009 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 10/31/2009 3:43:32 PM PDT by Rufus2007

Now that the Obama administration is attempting to take a victory lap on the U.S. economic recovery, claiming the $787-billion stimulus passed earlier this year was what did the trick, despite a cost of $160,000 per 'stimulus' job, as ABC's Jake Tapper pointed out, it has come at the cost of the U.S. dollar.

Since then, the stock market has rebounded nicely. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) is off a March low of 6,547 points, even topping the 10,000-mark recently. But what has caused this nearly 50-percent jump? According to CNBC's Larry Kudlow - loose monetary policy by the Federal Reserve, with low interest rates, has made it possible for the markets to rise, with the 'loose' money going into the market.

"The funny thing is, Steven, it has gone into stocks - I mean the stock market guys ... there's no real multiplier for the economy, right?" Kudlow said on his Oct. 30 CNBC program. "But it has gone into stocks and the stock market crowd wants to see the Fed to keep pouring the money in no matter what happens to the U.S. dollar."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushlegacy; federalreserve; inflation; larrykudlow; mccainlegacy; obamasfault; ricksantelli; rinolegacy; schifflist
Cheap dollar=inflated stock market value.

Inflated stock market value=illusion of improving economy.

1 posted on 10/31/2009 3:43:33 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: sickoflibs; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; bamahead

The Bush-McCain-Paulson bailout sucked!


2 posted on 10/31/2009 3:45:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Bush-McCain-Paulson-Obama bailout sucked!

Added a little note to your true statement. Obama's job-killing porkulus & health care reform sucks worse. And that takes some serious effort.
3 posted on 10/31/2009 4:00:09 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Rufus2007

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=video&T=Ferguson%2C%20Rogoff%3A%20Bloomberg%20Surveillance%20Panel%20&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/v3t.mGTZrnYU.asf

Ferguson, Rogoff: Bloomberg Surveillance Panel

Rogoff and Niall Ferguson from this past Weds on Bloomberg, it runs about one hour but the message is clear.

Excellent extended panel discussion that brings many threads in the financial media together.


4 posted on 10/31/2009 4:07:29 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: rabscuttle385
Bush's bending to the pressure for the bailout was very, very bad...
BUT LET US ALL REMEMBER:
Bush's $700B bailout only "spent" 1/2 of that amount...and held BACK the other half until the next administration.....

Hussein blew through that, added, another $787B on top of it, and THEN submitted a $4 TRILLION budget....all before he adds on OBAMACARE AND CAP'N'TAX!

I blame Bush for $350B....but the rest of it falls on HUSSEIN.

5 posted on 10/31/2009 4:09:37 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Rufus2007
The Grim Reality Is That America Is Not Out Of Recession
6 posted on 10/31/2009 4:30:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: advance_copy
And add even a bit more to Bush and Obama. It goes back to 1913 with the creation of the Fed. Really got bad during the Hoover/FDR era. Government started the mantra, do not worry, Uncle will take care of you from birth to death. Each following administration contributed just a little more and with that we lost a little more of our freedom and individual responsibility. Government and Congress went on spending spree's, resulting in a huge national debt. And with this deficit spending created inflation, resulting in the devaluation of our earnings and savings. Thus we have arrived at our current bankrupt status. Basic cause of this mess, a bloated and greedy government managed by ignorant, self-serving, incompetent and lying politicians.
7 posted on 10/31/2009 5:00:15 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: Rufus2007

These idiots always crow about the 50% jump in stocks since March, but never fail to mention it came on the heels of a much larger decline since November 2007, which was engineered to get the liar in chief installed.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 6:00:18 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals are nothing more than drooling buffoons. Spread the word.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
...but the rest of it falls on HUSSEIN.

And 0bama would not have the $350 billion if Bush had not signed the bailout bill into law.

9 posted on 10/31/2009 6:04:55 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

...but the rest of it falls on HUSSEIN.
And 0bama would not have the $350 billion if

The 110th & 111th United States Congress, let’s not forget the majorities of Democrats signed onto it first


10 posted on 10/31/2009 6:24:10 PM PDT by Son House (2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Hear and See Democrats put the CON in CONgress)
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To: Son House; Recovering_Democrat
The 110th & 111th United States Congress, let’s not forget the majorities of Democrats signed onto it first

Quit trying to deflect blame.

If Bush had vetoed the bailout and then Congress had over-ridden his veto, I might understand, but as it is, Bush and company were willing participants in the perpetration of the financial services bailout.

11 posted on 10/31/2009 6:30:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Rufus2007; Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

I couldnt agree more. Rabs pinged me this one.

I am guessing that we are soon near the point where the dollar drops faster than the stock market rises, if not already there. Is the suckers market rally over??? One hell of a rally.

12 posted on 10/31/2009 6:35:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: rabscuttle385

Yes, Bush is a sleaze for signing, but Congress did start it


13 posted on 10/31/2009 6:43:27 PM PDT by Son House (2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Hear and See Democrats put the CON in CONgress)
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To: rabscuttle385

Second that.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 7:33:08 PM PDT by Pelham (Obammunism, for that smooth-talking happy -face communist blend.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Why doesn’t anyone talk about the C-Span Kanjorski interview, when he talked about $550 BILLION being taken out of the market in a matter of hours in September of 2008??? It seemingly scared the sh*t outta Bush and forced his hand into the initial “stimulus”, thinking there was going to be economic collapse.

And we ALL know a similar incident happening with the British market not so long ago...same M. O.(see my tagline...)


15 posted on 10/31/2009 8:54:43 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Newtoidaho

“....fail to mention it came on the heels of a much larger decline since November 2007, which was engineered to get the liar in chief installed.”

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Not that I disagree with the concept of an “engineered” stock market decline; the timing was just TOO perfect to enable ongoing disaster that is Obama, but if the stock market can truly be manipulated (by a relatively tiny group of individuals), why in the hell would ANY of us EVER invest in it again?


16 posted on 10/31/2009 10:13:58 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: rabscuttle385
The Bush-McCain-Paulson bailout sucked!

It did but it never became law. Democrats took it apart and improved it. Obama, Reid and other Democrat Senators gloated what a great job they did on a rotten bill.

17 posted on 10/31/2009 10:18:57 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Son House

...and Congress was able to pass it only because McCain went along with it, suspending his campaign to deal with the “crisis”. Had McCain made a stand against TARP, it might not have garnered enough GOP support to pass. And he may have won the election.


18 posted on 11/01/2009 12:50:50 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: sickoflibs; rabscuttle385

Remember that the market was only down to 6700 for a couple days and rebounded, as it had been beat up unreasonably in a mini-panic. This so-called run up is not much at all compared to the peak in 08.


19 posted on 11/01/2009 4:52:06 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: advance_copy

Very true.

In this regard, Obammie the Commie is more like FDR than most are aware.

Hoover tried to inflate and centrally manage his way out of a fairly mild recession. It created a bubble, as it always does.

FDR ridiculed Hoover’s policies, made “Hoovervilles” the centerpiece of his campaign, and won the election.

He then adopted all of Hoover’s economic policies but put them on steroids, causing the Great Depression.

In all of this, Obammie the Commie has followed FDR down the same destructive path.

The difference this time around, though:
1. We no longer have the manufacturing capacity to “produce” our way out of this depression.
2. We no longer have the credit rating needed to “borrow” our way out of this depression, which never works anyway but rather makes the hangover all that much worse.
3. Our dollar no longer has the reputation that it once had and the world is trying to move away from it.

Anyone with a basic understanding of economics and history cannot honestly conclude that either those currently in charge (and those pulling their strings) are either the dumbest cadre of dunces any government has ever seen or that they are all causing the destruction of the American economy deliberately.


20 posted on 11/01/2009 5:32:50 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: Rufus2007

“And it’s not a matter of political affiliation, as Kudlow explained. Both President George W. Bush and Obama got it wrong. Who got it right? Presidents Bill Clinton, a Democrat, and Ronald Reagan, a Republican.”

Slick Willy should get NONE of the credit. He created the housing bubble after the tech bubble burst. And he balanced the budget by slashing the military, which Bush had to rebuild after 9/11.

And whatever good Slick Willy did was because of 2 turns of the screw: 1. His insanely LEFTIST policies early on brought the Republicans to power in the houses, and 2. Monica Lewinsky forced him to run to the middle.

Make no bones about it, if it hadn’t been for losing the house and his lack of self-control, Slick Willy would have tried to implement all of the same socialist policies that Obammie the Commie is attempting.


21 posted on 11/01/2009 5:38:25 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m not deflecting blame, I am reciting HISTORY. Bush’s mistakes were evident and not defensible...AND he used a fraction of the printing press idea HUSSEIN has used.


22 posted on 11/01/2009 5:48:51 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Rufus2007

The USD strengthened last week and sure enough the stock market went down. So did gold and silver. Stronger USD implies higher interest rates now or in the future which also hurts gold and the markets in the here and now


23 posted on 11/01/2009 6:14:15 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
...all causing the destruction of the American economy deliberately

DING DING DING... We have a winner!
24 posted on 11/01/2009 7:18:18 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Rufus2007
Since then, the stock market has rebounded nicely.

COMPLETE smoke and mirrors!

The people pumping (and pimping) for the stock market are whistling through a grave yard, and they know it. They just are hoping no one realizes it, because if people did, the market would fall like crazy.

You know why the stock market hasn't collapsed already? Free money from the Fed with no risk. That ponzi scheme won't last forever, and when this house of cards comes down, it will make September 2008 seem like a walk in the park.

The stock market rally is being inflated by easy Federal Reserve money

Stock Market Forecast S&P500 1400 by End 2010, and 400 by 2014

And this.....a second mortgage shock.

The Housing Collapse of 2010 Will Be Worse Than 2008

25 posted on 11/01/2009 7:45:01 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: dennisw
The Alt A and Option ARM mortgages start to re-set in huge numbers in 2010 - and this will continue through 2011. The subprime fiasco will pale by comparison.

Combine this with the historical trends from the 1929 crash. The US economy is in real danger of going off a cliff right now. If China calls our debt, the collapse could literally occur overnight.


26 posted on 11/01/2009 7:50:07 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

So buy gold guns and canned beans.... I agree the outlook stinks because we forgot how to produce instead we relied on shuffling papers and speculation


27 posted on 11/01/2009 8:37:44 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: sickoflibs
Just remember... FDR was elected FOUR FRIGGIN TIMES by the American Idiocracy who bought his BS.
28 posted on 11/01/2009 8:45:11 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Slick Willie was the luckiest president who ever lived!


29 posted on 11/01/2009 9:08:17 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Bush’s $700B bailout only “spent” 1/2 of that amount...and held BACK the other half until the next administration.....Hussein blew through that, added, another $787B on top of it, and THEN submitted a $4 TRILLION budget....all before he adds on OBAMACARE AND CAP’N’TAX!

I blame Bush for $350B....but the rest of it falls on HUSSEIN.
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Needs to be tatooed on the inside of every libs eyelids.


30 posted on 11/01/2009 9:59:15 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Mortrey

” It seemingly scared the sh*t outta Bush and forced his hand into the initial “stimulus”, thinking there was going to be economic collapse.”

That’s what was and still is needed!

The sooner the better.


31 posted on 11/01/2009 10:05:33 PM PST by dalereed
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To: April Lexington

RE :”Just remember... FDR was elected FOUR FRIGGIN TIMES by the American Idiocracy who bought his BS.”

Obama wont be elected three more times. One more time max. I am thinking 2010 not 2012. 2012 is too far away. It’s like those thinking of 1996 back in 1993. By 1996 everything has changed, Clinton was the hero, Newt was the demon starving kids and shutting down the government (voters perception) .


32 posted on 11/02/2009 9:53:00 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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