And, once again, the focus is on Obama, instead of the casket.
Posted on 11/01/2009 2:02:44 AM PST by kingattax
NEW DELHI (AFP) – Former US president George W. Bush said Saturday that the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan must be won to stop a return to "brutal tyranny" in the nation.
In a wide-ranging speech to a leadership conference in the Indian capital New Delhi, Bush said defeating the insurgents was "necessary for stability" and peace both in the region and globally.
"If the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and their extremist allies were allowed to take over Afghanistan again, they would have a safe haven and the Afghan people, particularly the Afghan women, would face a return to a brutal tyranny."
"This region and the world would face serious threats," he added
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Bush is wrong. The Afghan was must be won to stop terrorism. The 2012 election is what we must win to stop tyranny.
Afghan people, particularly the Afghan women, would face a return to a brutal tyranny.”
That’s funny. (and true)
And, once again, the focus is on Obama, instead of the casket.
Isnt that amazing? I had not noticed that .
Liz Cheney was saying that Bush used to attend these things all the time, but never with a camera crew. She also said the Obama people only could get one family out of all the ones there, to allow this photo to be taken.
OMG! You’re right!
He makes me sick.
Bush should have neutered Taliban and Al Queda in his first term. Instead, he and Rumsfeld chose to fight a minimalist war that has dragged on way too long and cost too many American lives. Moreover, he never meaningfully engaged the American public in the WOT. Same mistakes we made in Viet Nam.
I wish Bush would just disappear from the national scene. He had his shot and blew it spectacularly.
I may have disagreed with many things Bush did —— but I would take him and all his warts over the dangerous idiot in the White House now any day.
Democracy and human rights does not always merge. The country is still conservative even after the fall of Taliban, not liberal. If you want to talk about human rights, even America experienced hard times on several issues, even with a democracy. Democracy is a never ending experiment operating under cultural transformation. It is just a beginning for Afghanistan for democracy, and not as old as America.
This country had problems in the beginning and we still do.
This is rich. As opposed to the tyranny in our own country?
well unfortunately Afghanistan will never be something what we would call a democracy. the so called government is total corrupt (and will be beheaded anyway once Nato leaves (if “we” ever leave) “btw. not that anything of value would be lost if they get killed”. they are just the same like the taliban. the only difference right now is that they are official against terrorists” (at least as long as we prop up their power with our military). so more or less right now “our” fine young soldiers get killed to save the towelheads in Kabul (government) from the towelheads of the hills (taliban). and as soon as we leave it will all start from the beginning again. Afghanistan will again be governed from local warlords who controll the opium trade.
The lives of Muslim women are horrible across the Muslim world—are we going to take on Saudi Arabia? Somalia? We have honor killings in Europe and North America, We went to war in Afghanistan because that’s where Bin Laden supposedly was. We should get out and if any attack comes from the area, we blast them from the sky.
I truly believe the only reason we are there right now and a surge is on the table is not so we can win, but so we can calm things down enough to get out. That is the REAL strategy. I say let’s get out now and not waste another minute there.
i couldn´t agree more. GET OUT NOW and if they again harbor terrorists bomb the crap out of them from the air. to show em that we will let em pay for that. the only thing this people accept is brutal force. this should have been done from the beginning instead of “our famous nation building” in a country where people whant to live like in the 7th century and their only export product is opium. (wich we btw. have not been allowed to destroy. “we were not allowed to only enter the poppy fields when i was there in 2005”.)
Notwithstanding the continuing difficulties in stabilizing and fully securing these tribal societies, your is an amazing analysis.
Bush, as CIC, led the American military to defeat and overthrow the hostile governments of Afghanistan and Iraq, each in a matter of weeks. Excepting far smaller efforts such as Grenada, no American victory has ever been achieved so rapidly or with so few American casualties. (The Gulf War was similarly impressive, but of course it left the regime in Iraq in place.)
First, what did I say that was not accurate?
Secondly, drubbing Saddam’s two-bit army was not the objective(s). Our objectives in Afghanistan and Iraq were two-fold:
1. Protect our oil supply. Attacking Iraq gave us the opportunity, missing since we were invited to leave Libya in the 60s or 70s, to project a meaningful American military presense in the Mid-East. Bush had an opportunity to eliminate our dependence on Mid-East oil and he did not. Hence, Mid-East oil remains essential to our national security and we must be prepared to defend it. Hence, American soldiers are being killed and maimed because the politicians—to include Bush—did not have the guts to do what was necessary. I’m a retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel and my son is currently in his 18th year of service. He’s a Sergeant Major. So, I think I have some incite as to how the war should be fought.
2. Destroy Taliban and Al Queda military capability. An essential component to achieving our first objective. Bush and Rumsfeld failed miserably.
Oh, really? Not just reduce, but "eliminate"?
BTW, Bush also had an opportunity to make trees sprout lollipops and rivers run sparkling wine and he did not. Damn Bush!
photo op provided by Taliban. And they see that he uses it as an excuse to not send more forces. So they are encouraged to kill more.
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