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Seeking clarity from Hutchison (TX)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 10/31/2009

Posted on 11/01/2009 8:47:18 AM PST by markomalley

Kay Bailey Hutchison's campaign for governor has taken shape around two general themes: Rick Perry is bad for Texas, and Barack Obama is bad for the nation.

Oh, and she would defend property rights as ferociously as the Texians defended the Alamo.

Aside from elaboration on these positions, the public has few specifics from Texas' senior senator on how she would govern if she turns Perry out of the governor's office. This comes despite Hutchison's declaration of specific policy areas she would concentrate on.

In kicking off her campaign in August, she stated, "As governor, I will focus on five areas: fiscal policy, education, transportation, health care and government reform."

It's now November, and we await details. How would she change the way schoolchildren are educated, for example? Conscientious voters surely want to hear.

The Hutchison campaign has said for weeks that the senator plans a "rollout" of policy positions, but she doesn't appear ready to begin. The primary election is in four months. What's the holdup?

Hutchison aims to knock off a known quantity in the Republican primary. Agree or disagree with Perry, his nearly nine years in the governor's office – a Texas record – gives voters lots to judge him against.

Hutchison does not hesitate to point to her own record in office to promote her candidacy. But since she has spent the last 16 years representing Texas in the Senate, her record there is not the right measure. It's how she would govern in Austin that matters, and voters deserve a chance to vet her positions.

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A RINO trying to evade the issues.
1 posted on 11/01/2009 8:47:18 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I prefer her over Perry.

signed, a Texan


2 posted on 11/01/2009 8:49:14 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Our black President is quite blackmailable.)
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To: markomalley
Aside from elaboration on these positions, the public has few specifics from Texas' senior senator on how she would govern if she turns Perry out of the governor's office

Anyone in Texas that ever requested her position on anything got a form letter at least two pages long filled with "outs"...when all we wanted was a simple yes or no.....

KBH...it's too late now babe....You are a full-blown RINO....

3 posted on 11/01/2009 8:52:37 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: markomalley

She is going to pull a ‘DEDE’ and pull out of the campaign. I think she already knows that she is in the extreme dislike column for most Texans.


4 posted on 11/01/2009 8:53:09 AM PST by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: i_dont_chat

Check out Medina......


5 posted on 11/01/2009 8:53:09 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: markomalley

Perry is better than Hutchison. Hutchison is too liberal.


6 posted on 11/01/2009 8:53:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: i_dont_chat

You are in the minority. I live in N Dallas, and I know NO ONE that is supporting her.


7 posted on 11/01/2009 8:54:08 AM PST by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: i_dont_chat
Medina
8 posted on 11/01/2009 8:54:21 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: markomalley

As usual, another one not talking.


9 posted on 11/01/2009 8:56:42 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: devane617

I agree...she’s got the balls of a castrated RINO!


10 posted on 11/01/2009 8:57:10 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: markomalley

No More Gov. “BIG HAIR”!!!


11 posted on 11/01/2009 8:58:18 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: markomalley

She’s got ONE thing right!Can you guess which?


12 posted on 11/01/2009 8:58:59 AM PST by bandleader
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To: markomalley

all you will get from kay is smiles and giggles...no illegal control


13 posted on 11/01/2009 8:59:01 AM PST by dalebert
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To: markomalley
Perry has been Governor for 10 years.
Why can't he just step down and give someone else a chance?
Typical career politician
14 posted on 11/01/2009 9:03:55 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: devane617

I think you may be right. She has until the end of January to officially file. If she doesn’t resign from the Senate by the end of the year, I don’t think she’s running.


15 posted on 11/01/2009 9:06:50 AM PST by Al B. (Sarah Palin: Government "can't make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise".)
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To: i_dont_chat

Free world so far. Vote for your choice. She is much worse than Obama.


16 posted on 11/01/2009 9:06:52 AM PST by mulligan
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To: All
REMEMBER THIS,TEXANS:

Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress

“One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchison’s amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422

REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE FOR GOVERNOR

17 posted on 11/01/2009 9:07:40 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: i_dont_chat
I agree. All must go. Send the message. These are not lifetime appointments. Both are bad choices. There are only 2 people from an entire state good enough to run it? Really.Gimme a break. How did we convince ourselves into believing in a special ruling class.Newt, Rom,McCain, Bush, Clinton, Kennedy, etc. I'll go with the regular guy like Hoffman anytime. Re: Conservative !
18 posted on 11/01/2009 9:08:11 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010 Born in Beeville and raised on a South Texas farm, Debra Medina is a wife and mother, a registered nurse, a businesswoman, a rancher and a fighter.

Debra has always drawn strength from the courage of her convictions. She first got involved in politics in the early 1990s, when she saw that local leaders were not honoring the pro-life principles that guide her beliefs. Now chairing the Republican Party of Wharton County, she took the Republican Party of Texas to court in 2008 over violations in how the state convention was run.

Standing up to Goliaths is pretty much what Debra does.

See for yourself-->Medina---Republican CONSERVATIVE

19 posted on 11/01/2009 9:11:34 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: patriot08

Live link to Kay Bailey trashing fence:

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422


20 posted on 11/01/2009 9:11:58 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: i_dont_chat

I prefer Perry over Hutchinson... so I guess we will cancel each other out :^). She reminds me of the worst side of the Republicans (going moderate or liberal to get elected). Will admit though that the choices are not the best.

Another Texan...


21 posted on 11/01/2009 9:14:06 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Al B.

“I’m going to dede my campaign for the good of Texas and the Repub party.”
signed, KBH


22 posted on 11/01/2009 9:16:27 AM PST by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: Deagle

” I prefer Perry over Hutchinson... so I guess we will cancel each other out :^). She reminds me of the worst side of the Republicans (going moderate or liberal to get elected). Will admit though that the choices are not the best.

Another Texan... “

I’m with you on this one, no way would I ever vote for this Rino. So we’ll get a least one net vote.

A third Texan...


23 posted on 11/01/2009 9:18:11 AM PST by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: markomalley

Whoever is the next governor of Texas will first and foremost be the stalwart defender of Texas...

All of that against an ever increasing intrusive and infringing Federal government...

Period...

I do not see KBH doing anything but looking right at D.C. for what she will be doing for Texas, in a totally reactive mode...

That is unacceptable to me...

Perry has been doing and saying things that have caused a lot of us to question his continued ability to “just get by”...

That is unacceptable to me as well...

The other candidates making a run on this job in my opinion are not a factor...

I kinda wish a guy I know some of us believe would put all of these folks to shame had made a run on this job this time...

All in all I am not impressed with any of them...


24 posted on 11/01/2009 9:32:22 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: markomalley

As a TEXAN, all I care about is that control of our highways not be SOLD OUT to the highest bidder (or whatever bidder Perry selects).

Kay WILL NOT do that, so she gets my vote and my money. It’s much cheaper for me to give her a few hundred now than have to pay thousands every year to companies like Cintra (the Spanish firm that nearly took over control of the I-35 corridor, and may still get control of the US-59 corridor). If Perry is gone, Cintra, MacQuire (Austrailian firm), and others will be gone, and that’s good enough for me (until Dan Patrick gets in office and finally cleans up the state).


25 posted on 11/01/2009 9:32:31 AM PST by BobL
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To: i_dont_chat

I prefer Perry of Kay.

Too many in Austin like Kay which confirms my worst suspicions....


26 posted on 11/01/2009 9:41:27 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Pantera; TWfromTEXAS; BoringGuy; Richard Kimball; girlscout; omegabea; Warrior_Queen; erkyl; ...
Ping

Freepmail me or ping me from the original thread to get on/off the 2010 Texas Governor's Race ping list.

27 posted on 11/01/2009 9:44:00 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: cbkaty

Let us know when Medina polls out of the single digits.

Maybe she should try holding elected office first before running for the top job in the state.

Even if every resident of Wharton County and every Paulbot in Texas voted for her, she still has no chance. She doesn’t even rate as a spoiler candidate.


28 posted on 11/01/2009 9:47:54 AM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: anymouse

Let us know when Medina polls out of the single digits.


Chances are Larry Kilgore will get a lot more votes than she will in the primary and neither one will come close to being the winner.


29 posted on 11/01/2009 9:54:23 AM PST by deport
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To: anymouse
Let us know when Medina polls out of the single digits

.....and how do you explain Hoffman in New York & Scozzafva withdrawing...?

Hoffman has brought the RNC to it's knees....with no previous office.

You sound like Newt and Spector....

30 posted on 11/01/2009 9:59:12 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: i_dont_chat

She’s pro”choice,” and has campaigned against President Bush’s restrictions on embryonic stem cell destruction for federal tax dollars. She’s actively promoted widening of embryonic stem cell research all over Texas, claiming that destruction of intentionally created human embryos would be good for business.

Where are her speeches in favor of the right to life, a pro-life or profamily law? She can introduce S. 2585 through S. 2602 to temporarily suspend the tariff on certain men’s, boy’s, women’s and girl’s knit-to-shape cashmere sweaters, microphones and earphones (October 30,2009), so where’s the support to suspend elective intentional abortion?

I’ve been trying to remain silent on this race, but her campaign increases their low attacks on our sitting Republican Governor, attacking the man the way that the Left attacks Republicans.

If she’s so conservative, so great for Texas, show us how and why, don’t attack the current Governor.


31 posted on 11/01/2009 10:39:53 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: i_dont_chat

I don’t prefer her over Perry, and I don’t think our republican base needs the kind of mud throwing that she’s already participating in, along with her socialist buddiest in Washington DC...

Perry has been HERE and like him or not, Texas is in better shape than most any state in the nation. And I applaud him for that, even though we’ve had to slap him up side the head a couple of times.

Kay Bailey Hutchison is a SOCIALIST! She sneakily raises her hands every time with the socialists if it’s not a highly publicized issue!

We don’t need or want this woman in the Texas Mansion, and we don’t need her mud slinging here! She’s worse than the Obama team.


32 posted on 11/01/2009 11:28:25 AM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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To: RowdyFFC

Debra Medina is the only true conservative in the race and the only one who actually intends to take on the federal government... and as far as I’m concerned the fact that she hasn’t spent most her adult life in elected office is a GOOD thing.


33 posted on 11/01/2009 11:34:49 AM PST by beanshirts
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To: beanshirts

I’ll take a closer look at her. I’ve also interviewed Larry Kilgore whom I really like also.

But right now, I don’t think we can afford to split the party. We’ve got to win this one, and cannot give the socialists an inch to land on.

Kay Bailey’s full intention was to split the vote, and erupt Texas into chaos. And I suspect she’s getting some socialist money to do it.

And we’re going to need a strong states rights or secessionist at the helm to lead in case the going gets really rough, which I foresee happening quite easily.

Is Medina strong enough to do that?


34 posted on 11/01/2009 11:43:45 AM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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To: devane617
She is going to pull a ‘DEDE’ and pull out of the campaign. I think she already knows that she is in the extreme dislike column for most Texans.

Wow, I don't think so, but that would be so hugely good .... it would give Medina a chance to put Perry in a runoff and focus attention on just the two of them ..... and put ol' Rick squarely in the KZ for all of us conservatives .....

35 posted on 11/01/2009 12:40:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: anymouse
Maybe she should try holding elected office first before running for the top job in the state.

The top job in Texas is lieutenant governor.

36 posted on 11/01/2009 12:43:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: anymouse
Even if every resident of Wharton County and every Paulbot in Texas voted for [Medina], she still has no chance. She doesn’t even rate as a spoiler candidate.

Okay, so are you trying to help out Larry Kilgore or some other candidate who is more conservative than ol' RiNO Rick?

Or are you already compromised on Rick Perry for another four years? He doesn't work for you, you know. Or me. He works for Trammell Crow, Cintra-Zachary, and the rest of those guys.

37 posted on 11/01/2009 12:51:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: BobL
Kay WILL NOT do that, so she gets my vote and my money.

And what will you tell us after Kay helps whoop through a state income tax?

38 posted on 11/01/2009 12:59:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

“And what will you tell us after Kay helps whoop through a state income tax?”

I guess that I would tell that the people of Texas now DEMAND the income tax, as THE PEOPLE have to vote in a Constitutional Amendment to have one.

In other words, nice try, but will not happen - even under a Democrat.


39 posted on 11/01/2009 4:33:44 PM PST by BobL
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To: Brilliant

How could a state like Texas get to the point where we seemingly have no choice for governor other than two RINOs who will be pushing for amnesty for the criminal invaders from the south the second the election is over?


40 posted on 11/01/2009 8:18:41 PM PST by zeugma (Zeugma loves a good W00t Off!)
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To: Al B.

I think the deadline is Jan. 4.


41 posted on 11/01/2009 9:11:01 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: zeugma

Easy answer, zeugma, it’s because the people will consider only people with name ID.


42 posted on 11/01/2009 9:11:39 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: cbkaty
Hoffman is leading in the NY23 special congressional election race. Medina is in dead last in the polls.

The NY23 special congressional election isn't run through a primary election, so Party affiliation is secondary and winnable by a “third party” candidate, especially now that the RINO has thrown in the towel. Medina would need to first need to miraculously overcome a huge vote and money deficit to beat two strong Republican challengers, then she would need to go up against a fairly strong and popular Democrat opponent.

She has not shown any track record of being able to do this on a statewide basis. She probably doesn't have a big enough campaign budget to travel around Texas enough to get even name recognition, let alone buying TV, radio and newspaper advertisement to get her message out.

You can rant and rave all you want, but it's a long way from running a small county party chair race to covering all of Texas, especially against a sitting Governor and Senator that have already raised orders of magnitude more campaign donations than Medina will ever raise.

And lastly but not least, I heard Medina address the RPT convention last year. She is a weak speaker. The rank and file Republican voters, who she needs to vote for her, booed her off the stage in the general assembly. They will remember that she nearly broke down in tears, when she didn't get her way. No one wants a weak governor - not even the Democrats.

43 posted on 11/01/2009 11:37:49 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I'm not thrilled with any of the choices in the Governor race. But given a Hobson’s choice I think most voters will give Gov. Perry another term. It's still a long way until March, but I don't see Medina or Kilgore having a prayer of breaking out of the single digits.

It will be interesting to watch Perry and Hutchinson slug it out though. Not because I think either are particularly interesting, but to see who lines up on either of there camps. There are already some interesting alliances being formed and the “client state” proxy wars could get bloody.

44 posted on 11/01/2009 11:46:46 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing.

If you want to change the power structure in Texas, you ought to go after our Lieutenant Governor, not the Governor, a very weak office in Texas.

He does have some ability to push certain legislation from behind the scenes.

However, the ability to appoint bureaucrats is significant, and Governor Perry’s done a pretty good job. He’s stood for life and the family every chance he gets. (Much better than we’re afraid that Hutchison would do - in spite of her “94% rating.”)

His appointees, along with Attorney General Cornyn and Abbot, have helped restrain abortionists to the full extent of the law. In the past, “inspections” were mere formalities and the State bureaucrat in charge of those would lunch with the abortionists at hearings. No longer.

The AG’s office is ruling on RU486, and whether or not any doctor who uses it needs to register as an abortion clinic. At least 4 clinics in San Antonio were forced to close this year and required to pay fines for doing medical abortions without a license and/or while taking State funds. El Paso Planned Parenthood - the whole clinic - closed, giving in to hard times, too, pushed by our informed consent, parental notification and consent laws that even require a notarized ID for the guardian of minors and waiting period after formal information and consent.

Our finances in Texas are stronger than most every other State. Kay’s deciding to “come home” in this way is disturbing a pretty fine balance and taking at least 2 very good conservatives out of their job with at least 4 running on the Republican ticket to become our State Senator.

The only good thing about all this is that we might get a second conservative Senator in Washington.


45 posted on 11/02/2009 1:32:58 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: deport

May the Lord make it so == the Party that gets the most votes for Governor runs the primaries in each precinct. We don’t need the Dems in charge of more precinct primary sites.


46 posted on 11/02/2009 1:37:00 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: MotorCityBuck

I think you’re projecting, rather than extrapolating. How’s the current “change” working out on the federal level?


47 posted on 11/02/2009 1:49:25 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: cbkaty

And she lost
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/060508dntexgopsuit.214fedd.html

Cost money, time and good will because she didn’t understand Party rules.

She objected to having the committees working on the platform prior to the convention. We do our preliminary work under the guidance of the previous convention’s rules and current sitting Chair that was elected prior to the convention - all according to those same Party rules. Although the platform and rules for that year’s Convention aren’t voted on until after the Chair is elected, Committees work for days, hearing testimony and objections.

But, by the rules, they are working under the prior, not the new, Chair. Someone has to call the meeting to order, for Pete’s sake!

(By the way, virtually every organization that I work with do the same. American Academy of Family Physicians, Texas AFP, Texas Medical Association, etc. The new President doesn’t take office until the second day or so.)

Even if she’d won, we would have had to change the rules.


48 posted on 11/02/2009 1:58:47 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: anymouse
Hoffman is leading in the NY23 special congressional election race. Medina is in dead last in the polls.

.......and there was once upon a time....an unknown from Chicago......that was dead last in the polls.

49 posted on 11/02/2009 3:14:11 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

I agree. Option C is the correct answer but it doesn’t look promising for her.


50 posted on 11/02/2009 4:52:29 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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