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S.C. decision transforms Boeing's relationship with Washington, labor unions
Seattle Times ^ | November 1, 2009 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 11/01/2009 9:35:34 AM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

There’s no waking up the government in this state, that’s for sure.

It’s like DC. They just don’t get it!


21 posted on 11/01/2009 4:05:18 PM PST by Just Lori (What we have is a TOXIC government, and that aint no ASSET!!!!)
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To: Infidel Heather

Looks like our loss is your gain.


22 posted on 11/01/2009 4:06:10 PM PST by Just Lori (What we have is a TOXIC government, and that aint no ASSET!!!!)
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To: jazusamo
The bottom line is Boeing cannot let itself be held hostage for deliveries or costs by the IAM. So they decided that by diversifying their production facilities they will call the shots, not these union folks. The IAM really gave them little choice after last fall, plus it was clear that Christine was not going to talking any sense to the union.

The IAM has no one to blame but themselves. If they are as good as they like to think they are, then future jet production will be directed toward Puget Sound. It is more likely that the IAM will throw a fit, much like an 8 year old, and will lose out on the plastic 737 lines.

Too bad for us in Washington.

schu

23 posted on 11/01/2009 4:57:23 PM PST by schu
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To: schu

You summed it up well, I agree.


24 posted on 11/01/2009 5:05:04 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: aShepard

SC is a Right-to-Work state, I don’t think card check can force unions here? Frankly i don’t think card check will ever pass. Even so, the Charleston workers will know they got picked over a union so I think they’ll be far less likely to be coerced into unionizing. Several other large non-union businesses are in SC setting the example, believe me those workers do very well and in return work hard and ensure mutual success.
What amazes me is that there is a union of aerospace engineers.


25 posted on 11/01/2009 5:27:00 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: jazusamo

The engineers have a union? There are a lot of good engineers out there looking for work. Some of them used to work in the auto industry.


26 posted on 11/01/2009 6:04:54 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: jazusamo

Shouldn’t you be saying “Isn’t is time for the UNIONS to wake up”?


27 posted on 11/01/2009 6:24:00 PM PST by dixie sass
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Thank you.


28 posted on 11/01/2009 6:24:53 PM PST by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass

You’re quite right, of course we know that’s not going to happen, especially with their new bought and paid for friend in the WH.

Boeing’s unions are under the gun with a real threat of losing everything in WA a decade or two down the road and it’s probably more likely than not they won’t. I surely hope they do though for the sake of the thousands of workers here.


29 posted on 11/01/2009 6:48:27 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: visualops
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SC is a Right-to-Work state, I don’t think card check can force unions here?.......................

I understand that the proposed (what is it - Freedom for American workers bill) Card Check - will trump right to work states, and set national law on the ability for union representation based on a majority of workers signing a card - even under duress of their family being harmed by union goons - for an open period of time needed to gather enough votes and slash enough tires in the parking lot.

I may be wrong on the specifics, but the proposed bill is the most egregious assault on personal freedom, that it most certainly must be considered unconstitutional (that is until Zer0 is able to pack another dumbass in the SCOTUS!

30 posted on 11/01/2009 7:38:29 PM PST by aShepard
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To: McGavin999
I don't think you can equate auto engineers from aerospace engineers.
Different skill sets that take years of training and apprenticeship to master.
31 posted on 11/01/2009 8:32:00 PM PST by kaila
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To: aShepard

A while back, the SC legislature had an amendment in the wings that would would change the state constitution to state that ALL elections, including union related, would have to be by secret ballot. Methinks if the card check thing gets more momentum, they will be dusting that off again. It got tabled because the card check thing got put on the back burner.


32 posted on 11/02/2009 6:03:42 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: kaila

I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to relocate to a non-union state and work in a non-union environment rather then be permanently laid off. I’m sure that Boeing already knows who they are and have planned around that.


33 posted on 11/02/2009 7:12:10 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: aShepard

I did some reading and the (I think) Chambers of Commerce wrote a letter showing how card check would hurt businesses in right-to-work states, and explained how as a worker in a business that unionized through card check- you could not be forced to pay dues, but you would essentially have the ‘right to work’ at a business that would no longer be able to remain competitive, since the business would now be subjected to union arbitration rules and all the other crap that goes along with a union. In light of that I think card check may not be so much an effort to boost union membership (although no doubt they want that too), but an effort to kill private business.


34 posted on 11/02/2009 3:41:08 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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