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The Chicken Fix (Look out - here it comes!)
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 25, 2009 | Opinion Asia

Posted on 11/02/2009 9:24:41 PM PST by Selene

And now some welcome news for a change: In a little-noticed move, the U.S. Congress tore down a barrier to imports of chicken from China last week. It's a victory for free trade and for a more rational approach to safety standards.

President Obama signed an appropriations bill Wednesday that clears the way for the imports by allowing the U.S. Department of Agriculture to conduct in China the safety inspections U.S. law requires for any country exporting food to America. The congressional move in 2007 to block funding for those regulatory steps amounted to an import ban. Now USDA will go through its normal regulatory process to open the door to Chinese imports, which could take 18 months or so.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicken; china; foodsupply; poultry
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Outrageous.

I can't believe this is happening.

1 posted on 11/02/2009 9:24:41 PM PST by Selene
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To: Selene
And, of course that chicken won't contain things like melamine, which was in the pet food, and infant formula.

Kidney failure, anyone?

2 posted on 11/02/2009 9:26:49 PM PST by elk
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To: Selene; elk
Apparently, Tyson didn't give enough to the Obama campaign. /sarc>

Cheers!

3 posted on 11/02/2009 9:27:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Selene

Agriculture used to be viewed as a militarily sensitive industry.

You can’t field a military without feeding them. Therefore we should never become dependent on foreign countries for food.

The only good news is that after all of the China food scares, few Americans are going to be willing to buy China raised chickens, FDA inspected or not.


4 posted on 11/02/2009 9:27:58 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Selene

Why not? We already import American Pie from China /s


5 posted on 11/02/2009 9:28:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: elk

We’ve got enough chicken in the Republican party leadership...


6 posted on 11/02/2009 9:28:24 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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Apple Pie


7 posted on 11/02/2009 9:29:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: elk

I was thinking more lead than a DieHard battery...


8 posted on 11/02/2009 9:29:08 PM PST by djf (Having a gun and not needing it is better than needing one - and not having it! Way better!!)
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To: DannyTN

You will never know if Chinese chicken is in restaurant food, not to mention frozen dinners.

I already avoid all shrimp.


9 posted on 11/02/2009 9:33:05 PM PST by Selene
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To: Selene
"I can't believe this is happening."

We do have options in my neck of the woods. Chukar partridge, quail and cottontail rabbits. Grown in America and just a gunshot away. If I see a chicken with grown in China stamped on it's ass I'll take a pass.

10 posted on 11/02/2009 9:33:12 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Selene

I read that American chicken producers are developing their own farms in China, then exporting the chicken to the states. So, it’ll say ‘Tyson,’ but come from China, where who knows what was done in the process.

There is enough filth in the American chicken production
process; we certainly don’t need to go to China to import impurities and sickness.

Just about every month I find another reason to stay vegan.


11 posted on 11/02/2009 9:34:14 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Apparently, Tyson didn't give enough to the Obama campaign. /sarc>

Cheers!

LOL

12 posted on 11/02/2009 9:39:32 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: radiohead
"Just about every month I find another reason to stay vegan."

Are serious? Life without meat is like a life without sunshine.

13 posted on 11/02/2009 9:41:40 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Payback’s a MFer. RE: support for hitlery.


14 posted on 11/02/2009 9:41:48 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: radiohead

Why would anyone want those diseased chickens? I’m surprised that Dems are wanting this. Don’t they know that Domestic agriculture has a smaller Carbon Footprint.


15 posted on 11/02/2009 9:44:11 PM PST by DHSMostWanted (Pro-Choice = Anti-Choice, Anti-Life, Pro-Genocide, and Anti-Family.)
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To: Selene
"President Obama signed an appropriations bill Wednesday that clears the way for the imports by allowing the U.S. Department of Agriculture to conduct in China the safety inspections U.S. law requires for any country exporting food to America."

Wow! That makes me feel better. We get outbreaks of Ecoli from Mexican produce and they are not halfway around the world.

16 posted on 11/02/2009 9:49:19 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: elk
After losing our family doggie to melamine-adulterated food from china, I now choose to avoid chinese food in any form.

It's sometimes quite difficult determining the nation of origin of food ingredients, but that does not stop me from inquiring.

.

17 posted on 11/02/2009 9:50:28 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: blackbart.223

Life without meat is just fine. I thought it would be hard, but it isn’t at all. Besides, I make some mean vegan ribz: http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/05/barbecued-seitan-ribz.html.


18 posted on 11/02/2009 9:50:38 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: DHSMostWanted

That is the truth.

I work for a company that is developing a turbine that runs on poultry waste. They can power their farms on something they would normally have to pay to dispose of.


19 posted on 11/02/2009 9:51:31 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: DHSMostWanted
I’m surprised that Dems are wanting this

It's because they hate the American people.

20 posted on 11/02/2009 9:52:11 PM PST by Selene
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To: radiohead

“Just about every month I find another reason to stay vegan.”

There will never be such a reason!!!!


21 posted on 11/02/2009 9:52:32 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Selene

They had better have to clearly mark any chicken as originating in China so I can avoid it. I don’t even want to think of what kind of problems this will bring. And so what if we banned it outright, since they haven’t complied with even pet food regulations to date.


22 posted on 11/02/2009 9:53:13 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Selene
at a time when American trade leadership is in question and protectionist pressures are mounting, even a small positive step like this is most welcome.

Yeah, our trade "leadership" is really in question. Our annual trade deficit is around $700 billion now, and $266 billion deficit with China in 2008.

And will these Chinese chicken products be labeled at to country of origin? Many have been blocking that bit of information for US consumers, for years.

23 posted on 11/02/2009 9:55:28 PM PST by Will88
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To: DHSMostWanted
"Why would anyone want those diseased chickens? I’m surprised that Dems are wanting this. Don’t they know that Domestic agriculture has a smaller Carbon Footprint."

As to your first point: no one in their right mind. As to your second point, carbon footprint only matters when it is a tool of controlling the masses and making the likes of al gore powerful and wealthy.

24 posted on 11/02/2009 9:55:34 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mjaye

Chicken McNuggets

mmmm mmmmm mmmmm!


25 posted on 11/02/2009 9:57:50 PM PST by Selene
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To: struggle

Newt—tastes like chicken.


26 posted on 11/02/2009 9:59:39 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: radiohead
"Life without meat is just fine."

We will have to agree to disagree on this matter.

Regards, Bart.

27 posted on 11/02/2009 10:00:11 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Selene

Anyone who buys Chinese chickens is an idiot.


28 posted on 11/02/2009 10:01:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Selene

Yikes, your right.


29 posted on 11/02/2009 10:04:39 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: grey_whiskers
"Apparently, Tyson didn't give enough to the Obama campaign. /sarc> "

You're probably right. They were Clinton friends as I remember.

30 posted on 11/02/2009 10:05:51 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: elk
Tyson Pilgrims and others make beaucoup money exporting things like chicken feet and assorted innards to China which are regarded as delicacies. Also it saves hundreds of millions of lbs of land fill space.

Watch our poultry industry become noncompetitive real fast. But according to the Obama method of looking at things: They are based in states not on our team> screw them...

31 posted on 11/02/2009 10:06:58 PM PST by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: 9YearLurker
"Newt—tastes like chicken."

I would rephrase that. He acts like one.

32 posted on 11/02/2009 10:07:26 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: pennyfarmer

Let me know when that thing is ready for sale...


33 posted on 11/02/2009 10:07:46 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: blackbart.223

Why did the Newt cross the road?


34 posted on 11/02/2009 10:09:05 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Selene

Now you can’t say “mmmm mmmm mmmm” without the obligatory “Barack Hussein Obama”!!!!!


35 posted on 11/02/2009 10:09:49 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: pennyfarmer

If it will run on bullcrap then the emissions from Washington DC alone could light up the world.


36 posted on 11/02/2009 10:09:58 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: radiohead

The Chinese don’t care for their animals well. PETA won’t have any chicken farms here to picket.


37 posted on 11/02/2009 10:11:31 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: slapshot
"Tyson Pilgrims and others make beaucoup money exporting things like chicken feet and assorted innards to China which are regarded as delicacies."

A flaw in your logic. If the Chinese are growing the chickens to export to The U.S. they can keep the nasty parts we won't eat.

38 posted on 11/02/2009 10:19:05 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: DannyTN
What? Tyson will not be able to import chicken from China?

Probably can make more by doing that than importing muslims to butcher chickens grown in the US.

39 posted on 11/02/2009 10:19:39 PM PST by tdscpa
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To: 9YearLurker
"Why did the Newt cross the road?"

To sell a book or some other crap. You tell me.

40 posted on 11/02/2009 10:21:56 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Bronzy
"PETA won’t have any chicken farms here to picket."

The only plus I can see is PETA trying a protest in China. That would prove to be interesting.

41 posted on 11/02/2009 10:25:31 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: tdscpa
"What? Tyson will not be able to import chicken from China?"

They would and no doubt will.

But I suspect Tyson enjoys significant competitive advantages at present because of the size and number of U.S. facilities they have.

That advantage will disappear when anybody can import cheap chickens from China.

42 posted on 11/02/2009 10:33:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Selene

I don’t even eat chicken now except a sinful KFC crispy occasionally. That stuff is full of hormones, drugs etc already, what’s the Chinese stuff going to contain.

Wish we could get a true free range 5 or 6lb bird to roast instead of plastic wrapped fryer “parts”. Yuk.


43 posted on 11/02/2009 10:33:56 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Selene
Of course! They can't smuggle all the H5N1 infected birds into Vietnam, just can them up, freeze dry them, make 'turkey jerkey' out of them, and send them over...

I knew they'd figure out a way to get that virus over here...

44 posted on 11/02/2009 10:44:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 1066AD
"Wish we could get a true free range 5 or 6lb bird to roast instead of plastic wrapped fryer “parts”. Yuk."

See post #10. I understand this is not an option for everyone but it points in the right direction.

45 posted on 11/02/2009 10:47:47 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I don’t want any food from China. Why is Congress forcing this down our throats?

China melamine scandal prompts mass chicken cull

Fri Oct 31, 2008 BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese farmers, hurt by a spreading melamine scandal, slaughtered tens of thousands of chickens, state media said on Friday, as authorities in Shanghai began checks on feed producers for local fisheries.

Shanghai’s Livestock Office would check more than 100 feed producers in the city, and promised tests for the city’s seafood products if any feed were found to contain melamine, the Shanghai Daily newspaper said on Friday.

Melamine is a compound used in making plastic chairs and other things, but is often added to food to cheat nutrition tests.

At least four children died and tens of thousands were made ill from drinking milk formula adulterated with melamine this year.

The melamine scandal has since spread to other dairy products, sweets and chocolate, prompting recalls of Chinese-made food around the world.

A rash of cases involving melamine-tainted eggs exported to Hong Kong and South Korea, and sold in the eastern Chinese city of Hangzhou, have aroused fears of how prevalent the compound is in Chinese animal feed.


46 posted on 11/02/2009 11:35:38 PM PST by Selene
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To: DannyTN

Problem is, people won’t be able to tell which chicken is made in the USA

Apple juice is the same today. Any juice that comes from or uses concentrate is from china

Yea... This will end well... not


47 posted on 11/03/2009 12:06:18 AM PST by sten
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To: Selene

china owns us!


48 posted on 11/03/2009 12:06:48 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Selene

When we surrender our food production to communist countries then we are in deep deep trouble! I am putting on my tinfoil hat and suggesting that with all we have seen coming at us it seems as if Conress is not telling us everything! It is like they know that someone or something is holding a gun to our heads and if we do not conform to what ever world policies that are dictated to us then perhaps something bad will happen! America has been sold down the river! Short of a real revolution this crap will not stop untill The United States is no more.


49 posted on 11/03/2009 12:20:45 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: Selene
"Why is Congress forcing this down our throats?"

...not sure where I should start, but here's one of the reasons among many.

How Ayn Rand Became an American Icon The perverse allure of a damaged woman.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2377214/posts


50 posted on 11/03/2009 2:10:42 AM PST by familyop
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