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'V' aims at Obamamania
Chicago Tribune ^ | 11/03/09 | Glenn Garvin

Posted on 11/03/2009 10:28:46 AM PST by DFG

Imagine this. At a time of political turmoil, a charismatic, telegenic new leader arrives virtually out of nowhere. He offers a message of hope and reconciliation based on compromise and promises to marshal technology for a better future that will include universal health care.

The news media swoons in admiration -- one simpering anchorman even shouts at a reporter who asks a tough question: "Why don't you show some respect?!" The public is likewise smitten, except for a few nut cases who circulate batty rumors on the Internet about the leader's origins and intentions. The leader, undismayed, offers assurances that are soothing, if also just a tiny bit condescending: "Embracing change is never easy."

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1 posted on 11/03/2009 10:28:49 AM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

That is exactly what I thought when I saw the first promo.

The Trib will take some heat on this
but it is funny


2 posted on 11/03/2009 10:31:20 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: DFG
The original "V" shown on the Syfy Channel Sunday and again today is riveting television. Shot at the height of the Cold War, it reminds us of how the few can prevail over the many. As long freedom remains live in the human heart it will triumph over all the odds.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 11/03/2009 10:32:19 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DFG
I just rewatched the Original series.

The parallels between the Obamathugs and their takeover of the Free Market system and how they went about it on "V" is stunning.

I had forgotten how the Visitors and taken over the system "for our own good"...

4 posted on 11/03/2009 10:32:33 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: DFG

James Carville may be one of the lizard aliens.


5 posted on 11/03/2009 10:33:44 AM PST by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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To: Cuchulain
James Carville may be one of the lizard aliens.

If he is, his disguise sucks.

6 posted on 11/03/2009 10:34:54 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Mad Dawgg
Kenneth Johnson's sci-fi show is an allegory about totalitarians. The Visitors are the Nazis, the Scientists are the Jews and of course there is the Resistance. It can be set in any decade and in age where the boot heel of oppression stamps itself forever on the human face. Its American to fight back again those who try to run our lives for our own good.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

7 posted on 11/03/2009 10:36:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: agere_contra

I love it when the mask slips...


8 posted on 11/03/2009 10:37:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: DFG

I burned up a vacation day and took yesterday off. To my surprise and delight, the original V minisiries (1983) and the first 10 episodes of the V series that aired in 1984 were being shown on ScyFi yesterday. I wanted to watch in preparation for the KO of the new series tonight.

Once you get past the pure cheesiness of the show, the theme is very relevant today. They attacked individuality in favor of the good of the group, they promised health care breakthroughs, they attacked religeons (even at one point 3 Visitors were kicking down a nativity scene on a Christmas episode), and in one episode a “5th column” Visitor, Martin, was talking with a member of the resistance, Donovan, that their “dear leader” at home was a terribly tyrannical fascist. Donovan asked how he ever became the dear leader and Martin responded, “he made very charismatic speeches.”

I was blown away by how many parallels there were to our current situation. The amazing thing is that I’m sure that the “Visitors” were a very elemntary symbolic representative of Fascists in general.

The next few episodes of the 1985 series are playing today and I am getting them on DVR. I am very curious to see if the Series tonight follows the same general theme.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 10:37:48 AM PST by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: DFG

10 posted on 11/03/2009 10:38:56 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: DFG

Hissie Mathews is not going to like the comparisons to his Obamalove.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 10:40:42 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: goldstategop

“boot heel of oppression stamps itself forever on the human face.”

I couldn’t believe it when the “youth program leader” made the medical student bow to him and then told the medical student to clean his boots. When the student started to brush off his boot with his hand, the youth leader (Brian?) told him not to clean it that way, he is to clean it by licking his boot!

Your term of allegory is perfect. Thanks....


12 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:01 AM PST by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The parallels are stunning, in that on V:The Series the inspiration for the Visitors was the Fascist Hitler regime.  Winning the hearts and minds of the masses by making all sorts of empty promises like erradication of cancer.  And their control wasn't just subtle either.  The symbol of the Visitors was similar to the Nazi Swastika.

One of the older characters in the initial movie that spawed the 2 year TV series (playing a Jewish Holocaust survivor) said to several younger characters, that the Visitors reminded him of how the Germans during World War II persecuted the Jews.

13 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Cuchulain
And just as soon as James returns from the planet Hisanus, we'll have a chat with him about your concerns.

And "V" could have served as the Obama playbook for what happened last November -- BUT WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN AGAIN!

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14 posted on 11/03/2009 10:42:56 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: Cuchulain
And just as soon as James returns from the planet Hisanus, we'll have a chat with him about your concerns.

And "V" could have served as the Obama playbook for what happened last November -- BUT WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN AGAIN!

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15 posted on 11/03/2009 10:43:31 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: DFG
I'm far more interested in the leader of the aliens.


16 posted on 11/03/2009 10:43:58 AM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: CSM
The next few episodes of the 1985 series are playing today and I am getting them on DVR. I am very curious to see if the Series tonight follows the same general theme.

Same here.  I've got V:The Final Battle and the initial 4 hour mini-series that launched the TV series on my DVR already. Already watched the first 11 of the 19 TV episodes which aired yesterday. Today they're showing the remaining 8 TV episodes and V:The Final Battle later this afternoon.

17 posted on 11/03/2009 10:45:32 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Artemis Webb

The constant catfighting between the two female aliens in the original series was a delight to watch too.


18 posted on 11/03/2009 10:47:01 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
So the movie is about current events then?

19 posted on 11/03/2009 10:47:59 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: agere_contra
LOL! It certainly does!

I have always thought he looked like some sort of really ugly snake...so maybe he's just a 'reptilian lizard cousin.'

20 posted on 11/03/2009 10:48:33 AM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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That’s what I thought the first time I saw a promo. They have the whole hope/change thing down pat. It’s made me want to watch it, which I probably would not have otherwise.It should draw a huge audience. Obviously all the conservatives will “get it” I only hope the rest audience is smart enough to take their blinders off and see the “charming” similarities.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 10:49:39 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

God is issuing a warning to us... even thru our popular entertainment, he uses a variety of ways.


22 posted on 11/03/2009 10:49:59 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: RWGinger

I posted a link to the trailer on my homepage when it was first released!!! It’s still there for anyone interested.


23 posted on 11/03/2009 10:51:03 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: Cuchulain
James Carville may be one of the lizard aliens.He's always looked and sounded like an extraterrestrial to me.
24 posted on 11/03/2009 10:52:45 AM PST by American Quilter (USC Trojans--Fight On!)
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To: goldstategop

The original V was terrible. It did have hot girls for its time though.


25 posted on 11/03/2009 10:57:04 AM PST by staytrue
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Was it only the 19 episodes of the series? Then closed off by “V:The final battle?”

I couldn’t find the ending on the line up.....In the description the 19th episode seemed to leave some open issues.


26 posted on 11/03/2009 10:57:04 AM PST by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The constant catfighting between the two female aliens in the original series was a delight to watch too.

Did you say "catfight"?


27 posted on 11/03/2009 10:57:31 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: DFG

Every time we’ve seen the commercials for the new series, we always laugh, because it’s SO like Obama, and his minions.


28 posted on 11/03/2009 10:59:37 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: CSM

According to the trivia on IMDB, regarding the original “V” miniseries... The original premise that was pitched to the studio was that “V” would actually be set in Germany in the 30’s, and in fact be about the rise to power of the Nazis and the fascist takeover of Europe.

It wasn’t until later and more review, especially in light of the then recent blockbuster success of Star Wars that the show was re-pitched as a science-fiction story allegorical to the rise of fascism.

Interesting, I thought.


29 posted on 11/03/2009 11:02:11 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: DFG

Right down to his war on Fox, when the hot alien says to the reporter, “You will not ask us tough questions” or whatever. I thought that I read that ABC was startled that it looked like an Obama slam and asked them to tone it down, but I might have just dreamed that.


30 posted on 11/03/2009 11:02:14 AM PST by Rastus
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To: CSM
They played V:The Movie (which was the 4.5 hour mini-series that started V: The Series), now they are showing the 19 TV episodes that comprised the series itself, and at 4pm ET I think, V:The Final Battle mini-series that ended it all will end the two-day V marathon.
31 posted on 11/03/2009 11:03:39 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("The Community Organizer better stop bitching that the community is organizing." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: agere_contra

“James Carville may be one of the lizard aliens.”


...and your response:

“If he is, his disguise sucks.”

...made me smile.


32 posted on 11/03/2009 11:04:39 AM PST by RCFlyer
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To: DFG
'V' aims at Obamamania

I haven't seen it yet, but may have just become my favorite show.

33 posted on 11/03/2009 11:13:00 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: DFG
So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us?

Wow, that really does sound like Obama.

34 posted on 11/03/2009 11:13:40 AM PST by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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To: SuziQ

I think the comparison is incidental (if not outright providential)

in that the V series was about a fascistic group taking over society and ruling it as the Nazis did Germany and their conquered lands.

There wouldn’t be any parallels to 0bama if 0bama wasn’t a fascist and if his administration and movement weren’t fascistic.


35 posted on 11/03/2009 11:16:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: DFG

Maybe it’s time to update the Obama-Joker poster. Could some Photoshop wiz out there make an “Obama-space lizard” poster?


36 posted on 11/03/2009 11:22:22 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Artemis Webb

If you’re gonna’ have a babe in charge of your invasion, get a good looking one Fur Shur.


37 posted on 11/03/2009 11:24:09 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: DFG
They Live is a more apt analogy:


38 posted on 11/03/2009 11:30:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: DFG
Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us?

That says it all!!!!

39 posted on 11/03/2009 11:30:26 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Bender2

I sent you an email on this...what do you; being the world’s foremost authority on Sci-Fi, think...


40 posted on 11/03/2009 11:30:42 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: DFG

The original miniseries was very good, the sequel miniseries less so, and the weekly series was pretty bad, as I recall.


41 posted on 11/03/2009 11:32:03 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: DFG
My wife and are looking forward to this series and we will be watching. We faithfully watched the original mini series and television show. Speaking of which, the original V mini series was being shown in it's entirety so we DVR's it and started watching it yesterday. The frightening thing was the fact that what we were watching/the fictional story V, broadcast so many years ago is very close to what we are experiencing in America right now! My wife and I were stunned at the eerie similarities and we both came to the same conclusion without even talking to each other! “This is America today!” Yes it was and is scary. All we needed to do was substitute Obamessiah for the alien leader and his Obamabots and the “progressives” in and out of the media, government, politics and our communities for the alien ground troops.

Obama and his minions, like the aliens promise us all "Peace and Safety" when the reality is this: They want to control and EAT US!

I have a feeling the new V will draw the same parallels with the Obama administration (It can not help but do so.) while upping the stakes along with superb special effects. Go Mr. Abrams!

42 posted on 11/03/2009 11:33:56 AM PST by Jmouse007 (God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: DFG

Sounds like meaningless hype to generate interest to me.

That said: I’ve always believed Obama and his ilk were really a bunch of alien, flesh eating reptiles......


43 posted on 11/03/2009 11:34:04 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Ramius
I also read where every special effect laser shot cost $1000 each so the producers decided to minimize them by having the human resistance use guns.
44 posted on 11/03/2009 11:35:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Tzimisce

I wouldn’t go that far,

but 0bama and his cronies ARE

FASCISTS.

Just like the aliens in the original V were patterned after Hitler’s Nazis.

If 0bamites see themselves in this mirror, so much the better.


45 posted on 11/03/2009 11:35:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: CSM
Then closed off by “V:The final battle?”

No, mini-series, Final Battle, then the TV series.

46 posted on 11/03/2009 11:38:49 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Kartographer

Ohh, that’s a good one!

I’m saving it to my collection.


47 posted on 11/03/2009 11:46:26 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Ted Grant

Yeah, the TV series was pretty cheesy, special effects left a lot to be desired. When they did show the Visitors’ reptilian nature, they looked like the Gorn from the original Star Trek.

Still, there were a few memorable segments — like the ep reminiscent of the ‘Les Marseilles’ scene from “Casablanca”, where patrons of the Resistance club sing God Bless America to drown out a Visitor playing the lizard’s anthem on the piano...


48 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:51 AM PST by mikrofon (SciFi BUMP)
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To: agere_contra
"If he is, his disguise sucks."

What disguise?

49 posted on 11/03/2009 11:50:32 AM PST by mlo
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Thanks. I did set up to catch them all for today, so I am hoping that I am good. I am having a hard time remembering if I set up to record a “final battle.”


50 posted on 11/03/2009 11:53:28 AM PST by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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