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Saudi court upholds child rapist crucifixion ruling
Reuters ^ | 11/4/09 | Souhail Karam

Posted on 11/03/2009 11:24:26 AM PST by BigEdLB

RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

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In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; saudiarabia
(From Drudge)
A stopped clock (from the 11th century) is right twice per day
1 posted on 11/03/2009 11:24:27 AM PST by BigEdLB
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To: BigEdLB

Hate to agree with them, but I do on this one.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 11:27:29 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: BigEdLB

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2377477/posts


3 posted on 11/03/2009 11:28:49 AM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: BigEdLB

I wish we had this type of punishment here in the States for trash like this, especially in Florida!


4 posted on 11/03/2009 11:28:51 AM PST by Rickcbw
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To: BigEdLB

Proof there is some good in every culture.


5 posted on 11/03/2009 11:29:09 AM PST by Lou Budvis ("Don't Just Hope for Better Life - Vote for It." - Thatcher campaign poster)
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To: Red in Blue PA
They just call it "crucifixion" ~ this is not the real thing as practiced by the Romans.

Still, whatever they want to call it they're arriving at the correct solution to their society's problem with this guy. Shame our society doesn't care enough about children to be bothered carrying out appropriate sentences.

6 posted on 11/03/2009 11:29:53 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: BigEdLB

as long as the beheading comes 2nd, I’m cool with that.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 11:31:43 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: BigEdLB

Is the dude guilty?


8 posted on 11/03/2009 11:38:15 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: BigEdLB

Saudi Arabia > Vermont


9 posted on 11/03/2009 11:39:31 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There are a few instances where I whole heartedly agree with the moosies on, this is one.
We should do the same and put it on public broadcasting.
May put a stop to it pretty quickly.
Course there would be those who just want the publicity.


10 posted on 11/03/2009 11:40:16 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Looks like the beheading comes first, then they hang the body up for all to see


11 posted on 11/03/2009 11:40:35 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I wonder how long the head stays alive after decapitation. I once cut a worm in half, and it stayed alive for a couple of days!


12 posted on 11/03/2009 11:40:44 AM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: BigEdLB
That does it for me. You have to give it to the Saudis,
there they squat in the same fouled spot their ancestors squatted in 2000 years ago. I should also mention they are responsible for about 80% of all the Jihadist killings.
13 posted on 11/03/2009 11:40:54 AM PST by Hans
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To: BigEdLB

It used to be the custom to have public hangings, with the thought that it might discourage some of the onlookers from committing the crimes in question. And before that, it was a regular custom in the west to cut off the heads of executed criminals and stick them up on spikes.

I’m not sure if we want to do that, but a return to hanging and the public stocks might be one way to lower the costs of dealing with criminals, instead of paying union wages to prison workers who complain about having too much work to do.


14 posted on 11/03/2009 11:43:33 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: muawiyah
The Romans actually got the idea of crucificion from Carthage. Any town which agreed to ally with Carthage when they were at the peak of their rivalry with Rome were welcomed and treated as equals.

Any town which refused and foght them would have a handful of their leading citizens crucified in a prominent location for all to see such as a hilltop or by the city gate.

15 posted on 11/03/2009 11:45:14 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: BigEdLB

Ok, gotta give ‘em the stopped clock thing on this.


16 posted on 11/03/2009 11:47:47 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: BigEdLB
In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.

I thought these guys were good at this type of punishment. They should crucify him BEFORE beheading him. Just to tenderize him a bit.

17 posted on 11/03/2009 11:48:15 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

HASSAN CHOP!


18 posted on 11/03/2009 11:49:33 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BigEdLB

Sometimes you just have to admire Saudi justice! He will never be able to do it again!


19 posted on 11/03/2009 11:50:16 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: BigEdLB
A stopped clock is right twice per day

Yup. This and not letting women drive.
20 posted on 11/03/2009 11:50:27 AM PST by BJClinton (Hoffman, Baby, Hoffman)
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To: BigEdLB

I wonder if we (westerners) had this type of punishment if our recidivism rate would be non-existent.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 11:52:45 AM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

as long as the beheading comes in THIRD after his privates have been doused with battery acid and the beheading is performed SLOWLY with a dull razor blade.

And all of this is minor compared to what awaits him in Hell, due to that whole “millstone around the neck” promise in the Bible.


22 posted on 11/03/2009 11:52:51 AM PST by Muzzle_em (O crap!)
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To: MNDude

From what I’ve read about the guillotine the headless person stays conscious for a short time. They essentially pass out from blood loss. Not nearly as painful as this guy deserves.


23 posted on 11/03/2009 11:58:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

“I wonder if we (westerners) had this type of punishment if our recidivism rate would be non-existent.”

I’d say repeat offenses would be very very low.

Initial offenses probably would go down as well.


24 posted on 11/03/2009 11:59:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The Guillotine doesn’t miss. The Saudi swordsman must take a second whack from time to time.


25 posted on 11/03/2009 12:11:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BigEdLB

Now, I hate to ask this, but what happens to the kids. Do the fathers “honor” kill them for being raped? It’s happened before to poor muslim teenage girls.


26 posted on 11/03/2009 12:13:47 PM PST by Londo Molari
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To: driftdiver

Wow. I’ve just looked it up, and it seems the head is alive for 30 seconds. Read this!

Consider the case of Languille, a convicted murderer who was guillotined in France. He was observed by Dr. Beaurieux during his execution at 5:30am on June 28th, 1905. As written in Archives d’Anthropologie Criminelle, here are the doctor’s observations:

Here, then, is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the guillotined man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about five or six seconds … I waited for several seconds. The spasmodic movements ceased.

The face relaxed, the lids half closed on the eyeballs, leaving only the white of the conjunctiva visible, exactly as in the dying whom we have occasion to see every day in the exercise of our profession, or as in those just dead.

It was then that I called in a strong, sharp voice: ‘Languille!’ I saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contractions … Next Languille’s eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves … After several seconds, the eyelids closed again, slowly and evenly, and the head took on the same appearance as it had had before I called out.

It was at that point that I called out again and, once more, without any spasm, slowly, the eyelids lifted and undeniably living eyes fixed themselves on mine with perhaps even more penetration than the first time. Then there was a further closing of the eyelids, but now less complete. I attempted the effect of a third call; there was no further movement and the eyes took on the glazed look which they have in the dead.

I have just recounted to you with rigorous exactness what I was able to observe. The whole thing had lasted twenty-five to thirty seconds.


27 posted on 11/03/2009 12:23:33 PM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: BigEdLB

I think they have it backwards - crucify him first ... t


28 posted on 11/03/2009 12:24:58 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Joe Boucher

I was thinking about the half time during Super Bowl.


29 posted on 11/03/2009 12:26:13 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: massgopguy
HASSAN CHOP!

"Ickety, Ackety, Ook. It's Yours."


30 posted on 11/03/2009 12:26:52 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Years ago I had a boss who remembered hearing minute-by-minute live descriptions of executions in New Jersey. He said he would be glued to the radio as the announer described the prisoner being taken from his cell, walked to the execution chamber, strapped in....etc. He said it made quite an impression on him.

Maybe a reality TV show would help curtail some crime.


31 posted on 11/03/2009 12:31:03 PM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Happyinmygarden

One would think so BUT then again you would get that sicko who would do bad just for the audience.
But I would have to think MOST would get the correct message.

SO, tell me about your garden?
What part of Calif?
How much land? What are ya growing?


32 posted on 11/03/2009 1:09:59 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: meatloaf

Wouldn’t be any more of a downer than most of their halftime shows.
Probably a least bring a real applause.

Everything Ok in W.Va?
Getting cold yet?


33 posted on 11/03/2009 1:12:23 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: BigEdLB

Works for me.


34 posted on 11/03/2009 1:16:04 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: bgill
Another such example was where recently Iranian court ordered a man to be blinded, because he threw acid in a woman's face, and she lost her sight.

This acid throwing caper by jealous men is quite common in India and Pakistan, and is known in Afghanistan. It has been spreading into Iran, but is not very common, and ever less so, now that they have that penalty.

In those harsh societies, the punishment needs to fit the crime. Maybe in our society as well.

35 posted on 11/03/2009 3:09:01 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: MNDude

The internet is a wonder isnt it? In the past we would simply assume that things worked for a few seconds.

I will file this away under stuff that I probably didnt need to know. But thanks for looking it up.

Yuck.


36 posted on 11/03/2009 8:37:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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